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So you advocate breaking the law and ignoring them? The Royal Proclamation IS NOT a law of the past. It is a present law entrenched in our Charter of Rights and Freedoms. When does the theft stop and we start complying with our own laws? Two tier justice where the natives get screwed every time....

Harris prescribed the cutbacks and released municipalities from mandatory water testing. He's guilty as charged.

We're not talking about a "tiny piece in Caledonia". The Haldimand Claim consists of nearly 3000 square miles occupied by over 60 cities and towns - most of which was squatted on. There were some legitimate leases, however at no time did Six nations sell or otherwise cede any other lands. According to the Haldimand Proclamation and the Royal Proclamation - both of which are recognized as law in our country - no lands could be sold except to the Crown. The Canadian government IS NOT the Crown, nor is the Province of Ontario. It looks like we are snookered, legally. So the question is are Canadians honourable people who will do the honourable thing?

Yep! $100 billion. With minimum interest it goes up about $10 million for every day our government delays a settlement. If the average land claim takes 15 years that means it will be approaching $150 billion by the time the government gets around to it.

Ya ya ya and you are a Harris apologetic...... The K brothers were doing all that a long time before Harris cut the mandatory water testing. When he did then the people started to die. So while two wrongs do not make a right cutting services to pay his friends, Harris' decision was the deadly one.

Just a footnote: You'd be surprised what is on the table and how desperate the government is to settle this without our knowledge.

Live from China asked the question. Apparently they're not interested in evicting anyone - that's not part of the negotiations. What they do want however, is control of those lands with all Crown land handed back to them. They will manage and veto developments within their territory. Other vacant lands can be returned to them. Sorry, the Toronto claim has already been made by the Mississauga and recognized by the federal government. They are presently in negotiations for compensation and or return of some other lands. In fact the government has already offered a good part of Kawartha Lakes in return.

My brother-in-law lives and works in the Walkerton area and my wife is a medical secretary. I know both places very well. The K brothers wouldn't have had the opportunity to skip getting water samples tested if they could have continued to send them into the Ministry for testing. But Harris cut that out to save a few bucks. "Pass it on to private agencies" he told them. That one move cost people their lives. The hospitals are a disgraces. Dried blood lines the base of ER walls. Linens are improperly laundered and moral is at its worst. The only saving grace for health concerns are that most of the instruments and equipment are disposable. While this helps prevents the spread of infection and cross contamination, it raises the cost of health care ten fold. Most central service and supply departments had this type of spending under control before Harris. Now CS is manned by outside contractors bidding for the lowest cost. They have to cut corners to make a profit.

No. Harris killed those people at Walkerton by cutting out mandatory water quality testing that was being done by the MNR. He also order the murder of Dudley George in a round about way. He also attempted to cut back the administration of education but the boards were smarter than he and they simply dumped it on to teachers. Teachers are not the bloat in that system and the minute he was out classed he should have retracted. He might have too if his ego didn't get in the way. There are doctors and nurses working in hospitals although they are often short staffed. However, have you been to a hospital lately? The places are filthy the instruments are contaminated and the c.deficile bacteria infects everything. That's what Harris did. He cut back hospitals to give his buddies a tax break and his legacy kills people every day. Of course he was again outsmarted by hospital admins as they just went to the lowest common denominator. People remember Harris and they'll be reminded again at election time. He was evil, as evil reigns in politics.

The fair market value of the Six Nations land claim - 6 miles on each side of the Grand River from its source to its mouth - is over $100 billion. That doesn't include the government mis-managed trust accounts which come in at about $25 billion. Surprise. Six Nations doesn't want the money (good for us eh?). They want the land back or equivalent land in return.

Society has NO rights. Period. Individuals have rights outlined in the Charter but so far as they do not abrogate other rights identified in the Charter. So the majority have no rights either. Nor can you impose your will on the minority. So get over it. No where have your rights ever been impinged.

Harris with Eves as his executioner chopped the health care system, the education system, natural resources, transportation and a whole lot more. His intention was to put people on notice to be efficient. The result however was anything but efficient. It killed a bunch of people in Walkerton. Killed a guy at Ipperwash. Put almost every hospital into the red where they are still fighting to provide decent health care with little money, put the educational system in such disarray that there is still a teacher deficit while the school boards lavish in luxurious surroundings without any notice of budgetary constraints. natural Resources got so butchered that they are trying to make profits by selling off the natural resources and contracting out maintenance services which leave parks and natural environments in abysmal condition. That is the Harris legacy and Eves didn't say no. It really comes back to choice - there is none - so the staus quo most often wins out among the electors.

Liberals and McGuinty will be back in a majority government once again. Not only are they legitimately tackling the botchery by Evens and Harris, and of course public service workers have a long memory, but Ontarians aren't totally pleased with Harper. While the federal and provincial elections are separate, Ontario has often voted opposite to the federal party in power and I believe this round will be no exception. Except for places like Caledonia where people are pissed at McGuinty, for the most part Ontarians are either happy with him, or they don't care (which will work in his favour). Liberal majority - my prediction.

CEOs earning over $1 million plus bonuses are not just overpaid but their wages are obscene.

Did you do that yourself or did you get some help? It seems the language was a little above you but the content is spot on yours.

The bottom line: There would be no need for minimum wage legislation if employers paid a wage that was above the poverty level. The facts is that even with minimum wage legislation employers try to circumvent fair wage practices and in doing so keep a whole segment of the working poor in our society.

The guy that wrote the article is not a scholar, a historian or an avid reader of First Nations issues. He is lawyer with too much time on his hands that thought he would chime in on the on-going debate. His legal representations are mere speculation and have no basis in legal reality. Take his point of the occupancy permit, for example. There was no concept of an occupancy permit at the time the British started to make settlements. If there had been you can bet that the original settlers would have to show their occupancy permits to the natives to prove there was a land cede first. Of course we all know that much of Ontario, and Canada is largely unceded territory. This guy is getting way too much attention for just an limited opinion of the issues.

Boy are you ever out of touch. But is is not uncommon that people like you depnd on your myths rather than examine history with an open mind. haha Oh my. Yes, you have a HUGE white man guilt complex going on don't you? You poor boy. Ok, Michelangelo? The printing press? Mayans were pressing clay tablets to record their history about 1500 years before the "Gutenburg" printing press was invented. Scientists have even confirmed that the clay pots recorded sounds from the era. Can you say sound recorder? The "New World wasn't discovered. It was bumped into first by Scandinavians and then much later by good old Chris Columbus lost on his way to China. The Polynesians beat the Europeans to that too. Heck the dumb Europeans didn't even know there was a world until the 1400s. The Indigenous peoples here had a far more advanced view of the world AND the universe long before Galileo set his eyes to the sky. I mentioned earlier about how the scientists are looking to the Navajos for help in solving physics problems.... I take it you mean "painting"? Of course art for the sake of art wasn't available to Europeans in general and was mostly reserved for the elite of European society. But painting for records for the people, now that is well documented around the Americas and the use of earthen pigments still outweighs the volatile heavy metal paints that killed most of the European artists. From the Mayan to the Iroquois, the Americas were involved in trade representing the finest of capitalism. What you ~think~ is capitalism that the Europeans brought here is nothing more than usury - a profit from slavery - and its is further form true capitalism than corporatism. The Maya had aqueduct systems long before the Europeans ever knew what they were. Besides that is another technology invented by brown people form the Middle East. Boy are you ever dumb. Up until the Europeans came here to the Americas, their hygiene was despicable. The rich Europeans only bathed once a year and the poor ones hardly ever in a lifetime. In contrast the practice of daily bathing was common in Iroquois society. And as for human wastes, the Europeans and their descendents are still pissing in our drinking water and crapping on our food. The natives were far advanced - including having indoor bathrooms and sweat lodges built into longhouses. Human wastes were place far away from the water and food crops. This is another good one since Europeans and even Canadian farmers flood the lands with pesticides, and fertilizers. The idea of crop rotation to control insects and imropve crop yield was adopted from the Iroquois who had advanced knowledge of the relationship between plants, insects and soil fertility. Invented by an American long after he learned form the Indians. Invented by a brown fella, a Greek. Where is the steam engine today, huh? The Mayans had telescopes long before the Europeans. The oldest polished lens was found in South America it is still ranks as being more highly polished than technology can achieve today. As to the rest of this tiring pathetic mythicsim you subscribe to, the majority was invented by people OTHER than Europeans. You see historically Europeans were either drunk (because they had to drink wine and beer due to pissing in their water), stoned on rye ergot they ingested in the grain, or just plain conquered people who had no time to invent much of anything. What they did have is a penchant for violence and so they stole most of the inventions discovered elsewhere and put them to use. In comparison to Native people of the past, Europeans were well behind in the technological race and if it hadn't been for the Huns or the Egyptians mingling with them it is highly likely that Europeans would still be in the dark ages. I would be careful about boasting too much. Historically Europeans were filthy, dumb and starving people. Is that what you are defending? You really do need to read more rather than relying on your xenophobia to give you an answer to things you haven't a clue about......

Ah the wheel you say. That was invented by brown people from the middle east. Still the Europeans weren't smart enough to invent that either. Europeans were really dumb people as world inventions go.

Yep they knew about the body long before Europeans started looking at their innards. The also had astrology and physics well in hand long before it was even considered a curiosity in Europe. Even as we speak, world scientists have been consulting with the Navaho people to try to understand the advances that have been known for thousands of years. In the scheme of things our European ancestors were pretty much outsmarted by the Mayan and later the Aztecs. And the autopsy thing? Ask an Aztec Elder....he or she will tell you about things the doctors still don't know about the body system.

No...The government can't expropriate what it doesn't have a right to. The courts are clear that the government MUST negotiate with First Nations concerning lands claims issues. That IS the law. As well under that same law, we don't have property rights, save and except those we might acquire through civil action. Aboriginal rights aren't "special rights". There are rights that precede the limitations outlined in the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. So their land and treaty rights are not under our control.

The government can't afford the fall-out. There would be protests, occupations, legal injunctions, court cases and international embarrassment over such a move. It is easier and more productive to negotiate an agreement in the way they did. You must remember that 90% of BC is unceded territory. Aboriginal people have the courts on their side on this one.

The requirement that Aboriginal workers be considered in BC isn't the result of "special rights or obligations" it is about business. The Olympic Committee wants to build on lands that are either owned by or under land claim of the First Nations. In avoiding confrontation they negotiated a deal that will see native people given opportunities to employment in the process. That would be no different than the US coming here to build a factory and having Canada say they must use Canadian workers to build it.

When you take conservatism to the extreme right you end up with fascism. And while Harper isn't a fascist, he could lead there if he is not stopped in his tracks by more moderate conservatives.

Another ~intelligent~ response. Nothing I didn't expect from the lower class.