Sleipnir

1) If that is the case, betsy failed to understand the concept of science, atheism and faith. Those three terms are not related to each other. Example; you can be a theist faith and still be an ardent supporter in science. 2) If that is the case, I fail to see how evolution has anything to do with events prior to the big bang. Beside, does betsy even know what scientific 'assumption' means? Doubtful.

Not sure what formation of planets has to do with biological evolution or sanitary cleaning techniques in the bible. To be honest, I'm getting a little confused which direction the argument 'logic' (or lack thereof) is heading.

Uh and I was thinking of pixie dusts

-Sigh- I guess arguing with a person that renounced the use of reasoning is like administrating medicine to the dead.

There's a rule against spamming the same post over and over again.

That's because it is. Evolution refers to a continual biological process, big bang refers to an immediate event. Two separate things. Not remotely comparable. If that premise was true, than life would exist on all planets - which obviously isn't the case at the moment. What is this 'star dust'? Pixie dust? Without the right conditions, life would not exist. Has nothing to do with Earth being magical. Evolution has nothing to do with the origin of species, it refers to changes in genetic makeup over successive generation. lol what you've given isn't fact - just someone's else opinion that hold no merit in modern day science. Yes, math. Answers from the back of the book seems to come from nothing. Illogical statement because to wrap your mind around something would not be nothing. You're jumping around from sanitary terms in the bible, to evolution, to big bang, to star dust (whatever that is). Can't you present a solid case? And assumptions are wrong?

What 'assumptive scenario'?

I feel the same way (except the Fawkes thingy, I don't know anything about that). However, I find it curious that people who still celebrate Christmas as the birth of someone who wasn't born on that day.

http://www.telegraph...laims-Pope.html Pope benedict admits, from the bible, that Jesus was not born on December 25th or in Nazareth. He went on to say that Jesus was not born in a manger surrounded by angels or cattle. It was proposed that the Dec 25th was chosen to coincided with the pagan holiday of Yule, with no other significant meaning. Some scholar placed Jesus's birth date in March 25th or even May 30th. As a quote from an article: http://people.howstu.../christmas4.htm But by the early fourth century, Church leaders decided they needed a Christian alternative to rival popular solstice celebrations. They chose December 25th as the date of Christ's birth and held the first recorded Feast of the Nativity in Rome in A.D. 336. Whether they did so intentionally or not, Church leaders directly challenged a fellow up-start religion by placing the nativity on December 25th. The Cult of Mithras celebrated the birth of their infant god of light on the very same day. So my thought is, why do we still celebrate something that never happened on December 25th? It's almost like a phantom holiday. December 25th, as it seems more appropriate, should be a celebration of the original meaning - paganism.

Unless, in some bizarre universe - the Supreme court orders the implementation of PR.

Peter Julian and Elizabeth May gets testy over the 'poop' issue in Victoria http://www.cbc.ca/pl.../ID/2309803184/ *see the time at 6:30 Edit: ----- Elizabeth May blew her gasket and started ranting at 8:30.

All living organisms display some sort of behaviour - just not in the traditional sense of what we call 'behaviours' in animals.

I think the Greens was the biggest winner from last night election, despite not winning a seat.

Bother with what? ignoring counter-claims against your claims?

By the way, survival of the fittest in evolutionary terms is refer to organisms that can produce the most number of viable offsprings.

To be honest betsy, you don't know what you're talking about in the area of biological evolution. Have you actually done any research on this topic, or are you just trying to incite an argument? The reason why I'm saying this is because you keep ignoring counter-claims against your claims.

To be honest Merlin, if you stop being irrational with your fears of muslims trying to hunt you down with the end result of your head being chopped off, you might actually be warmly accepted by other forum users.

Voters don't tend to pay attention to by-elections as opposed to a federal election.

Religion and evolution cannot be debated in the same plane of thought. Try again betsy.

Read my quote.

Evolution has been proven time and time again.

I'm reading the online election results for Victoria.

Now its complete opposite, it might go down to the wire.

Not a clue lol

Not a clue, I'm a biology person not an astronomer.