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  1. OK. You are in the constitution. So by holding parts of the country hostage you think the govt. will capitulate. What is to stop them just changing the constitution? How about a challenge that the extrodinary rights and freedoms of the aboriginals of Canada are unfair? Why as an anglo saxon am I not given the same rights? Why should I pay taxes? Buy my licenses? Or obey MNR guidelines? I am feeling excluded. The laws are racist. When 10 to 20 million other Canadians start mumbling the same thing, treaty or not, constitution or not, you will be left with next to nothing. I still don't recognize the validity of that document. Why should I? I don't recognize the Queen of England as being any better than me or my neighbours either. But you want to come to my homestead where my family has been for almost 100 years and tell me that some 300 year old document gives you the rights to the house and barn my Great Grandfather built. I'm going to tell you to go copulate with your hat.
  2. 1. You are living in the past. I'm sure Russia regrets selling Alaska too. It is simply too late to say "pay up or get out". The world has arrived, and it is not leaving. 2. You speak of all your people shared with the Europeans as you type on your computer, using electricity, inside your heated home, wearing european style clothing, and spending european style money, none of which you would have without the europeans arrival in North America. 3. If it has nothing to do racial superiority, why are only natives given land? It has been shown, Natives are people who came, not only from Asia across the land bridge, but also from Europe.(search:Clovis point) Most likely across the frozen North Atlantic. So if I can trace my ancestry back to those Europeans, or someone else trace their history to the Asians, who first arrived here and became the "Natives" shouldn't I or they also get some land? Since before the europeans came over to North america, the entire population of european humans at one point had only 6 or so women, a lot of people could be entitled to land. Actually if we go back far enough, we're all cousins anyway. So in that light, everyone is just as entittled to the land as everyone else. 4. Staging roadblocks, causing property damage and bullying police, does nothing to further the native's cause. For every roadblock that goes up and zealous non-native that joins your movement, 50 or 100 other Canadians, shake their heads with disgust and embarrassment. I know that if it had been a bunch of Scottish, English and Irish descended Canadians, the military would have been sent in to kick their bloody arses. The cops would have used tear gas and riot gear instead of being intimidated into doing nothing. If the Natives rock the boat too hard you will lose all the extra liberties you have. How would you like to pay Taxes? Or pay for your hunting and fishing licenses? The natives have some pretty good perks, why would you want to risk them? Why would she respond when, as she pointed out, you were rude. There are legal realities here that you seem unaware of. The government of Canada is in negotiations with Six Nations because they have a valid land claim for land granted to them, taken by Canada "in trust", and not paid for. Here's a legal reality for you. Ain't gonna happen. How's that? So when the Natives are done alienating the entire nation and we vote in a govt that promises to "deal with the native issue" and the govt. eliminates all the privilages natives currently enjoy, and does away with all treaties, where will the natives be? The only reason a 300 yr old claim is given any consideration of validity is because enough of the populace believes it is important. If you alienate everyone, you lose the only thing you had going for you.
  3. How many Laws from the 1600's are still in effect today? What percentage of the total current # of laws in use, do the remaining 1600's laws still in effect, make up? How much value does that mean should be placed on other 1600's legal documents? Well this one is And I believe some others ... the treaties that were the formations of countries around the world are often still in effect. They are kind of important. I don't recognize the validity of that document. It is not a law, and apparently it is not in effect. Seems to me they used to burn Witches at the stake in the 1600's too. Is that something else we should be re-evaluating too? It is incorporated into the Royal Proclamation (1763) which is incorporated into the Constitution of Canada (1982) , so it is still law today. Where? Show this claim.
  4. How many Laws from the 1600's are still in effect today? What percentage of the total current # of laws in use, do the remaining 1600's laws still in effect, make up? How much value does that mean should be placed on other 1600's legal documents? Well this one is And I believe some others ... the treaties that were the formations of countries around the world are often still in effect. They are kind of important. I don't recognize the validity of that document. It is not a law, and apparently it is not in effect. Seems to me they used to burn Witches at the stake in the 1600's too. Is that something else we should be re-evaluating too?
  5. Could you clarify? Getting what they deserved as in: What kind of bass-ackwards thinking put's one religous group smack dab in the middle of another religion's holiest land? And the resulting violence since then is justified? ??????? Why the displaced Jewish people after WWII couldn't have been given a chunk of land anywhere else, is a very good question? oh and I don't subcribe to the "It's their holy land" argument. Plenty of Jewish peole are worshipping just fine all over the world.
  6. How many Laws from the 1600's are still in effect today? What percentage of the total current # of laws in use, do the remaining 1600's laws still in effect, make up? How much value does that mean should be placed on other 1600's legal documents?
  7. I had to do a double take. I thought I was reading Ann Coulter.
  8. 1. You are living in the past. I'm sure Russia regrets selling Alaska too. It is simply too late to say "pay up or get out". The world has arrived, and it is not leaving. 2. You speak of all your people shared with the Europeans as you type on your computer, using electricity, inside your heated home, wearing european style clothing, and spending european style money, none of which you would have without the europeans arrival in North America. 3. If it has nothing to do racial superiority, why are only natives given land? It has been shown, Natives are people who came, not only from Asia across the land bridge, but also from Europe.(search:Clovis point) Most likely across the frozen North Atlantic. So if I can trace my ancestry back to those Europeans, or someone else trace their history to the Asians, who first arrived here and became the "Natives" shouldn't I or they also get some land? Since before the europeans came over to North america, the entire population of european humans at one point had only 6 or so women, a lot of people could be entitled to land. Actually if we go back far enough, we're all cousins anyway. So in that light, everyone is just as entittled to the land as everyone else. 4. Staging roadblocks, causing property damage and bullying police, does nothing to further the native's cause. For every roadblock that goes up and zealous non-native that joins your movement, 50 or 100 other Canadians, shake their heads with disgust and embarrassment. I know that if it had been a bunch of Scottish, English and Irish descended Canadians, the military would have been sent in to kick their bloody arses. The cops would have used tear gas and riot gear instead of being intimidated into doing nothing. If the Natives rock the boat too hard you will lose all the extra liberties you have. How would you like to pay Taxes? Or pay for your hunting and fishing licenses? The natives have some pretty good perks, why would you want to risk them?
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