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  2. Were religions the first propagators of Fake News?

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    9 hours ago, Rue said:

    Lying is an inherent characteristic in all humans so logic dictates lying preceded religion and religious belief at the individual level before it was passed on collectively through religion. I tend to think lying is a primal trait especially used by Alpha males to gain control of their packs. Religion is simply primates forming packs led by an Alpha male who lies louder than his subjects.  Interestingly with Baboons the Alpha is endowed with a very colourful and inflammed buttocks, just like religious leaders. The first liar was probably some Alpha trying to convince his next mate he would pay child support.

    You might be right, but Fake News is not quite just lying. It is lying to people who want to believe the lie enough to pass it on as real when they know it is a lie.

    Regards

    DL 

  4. With ironic respect. Should we thank God that religionists are such hypocrites?

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    8 hours ago, OftenWrong said:

    The Vision of Christ that thou dost see
    Is my Vision’s Greatest Enemy.

    Thine has a great hook nose like thine;
    Mine has a snub nose like to mine.

    Thine is the friend of All Mankind;
    Mine speaks in parables to the Blind.

    Thine loves the same world that mine hates;
    Thy Heaven doors are my Hell Gates.

    Socrates taught what Melitus
    Loathed as a Nation’s bitterest Curse;

    And Caiphas was in his own Mind
    A benefactor to Mankind.

    Both read the Bible day & night,
    But thou readest black where I read white.

    I read white. What color do you read?

     

    "Whoever imagines himself a favorite with God,
    holds other people in contempt.
    Whenever a man believes that he has the exact truth from God,
    there is in that man no spirit of compromise.
    He has not the modesty born of the imperfections of human nature;
    he has the arrogance of theological certainty and the tyranny born of ignorant assurance.
    Believing himself to be the slave of God,
    he imitates his master,
    and of all tyrants,
    the worst is a slave in power."
    --Robert Ingersoll

     

    Regards

    DL

  7. With ironic respect. Should we thank God that religionists are such hypocrites?

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    With ironic respect. Should we thank God that religionists are such hypocrites?

    The religions that offer a supernatural God are basically authoritarian religions with tyrannical Gods.

    They are quite divisive and if Christians and Muslims do not do things just right, they get to burn forever in in a purposeless hell. Yahweh and Allah are mean demiurges.

    https://vimeo.com/7038401

    In terms of following their religions to the letter, I see both Christians and Muslims as being quite hypocritical and I thank all the Gods for that.

    If Christians and Muslims did live by the barbaric ideals their religions and Gods wanted, the inquisitions and jihads would force the rest of us to eliminate those fouls religions for reasons of self-defence.

    Let us thank all the good Gods that Christians and Muslims do not practice their religions and are such hypocrites. Let us thank all the Gods that Christians and Muslims are moral enough to be hypocrites and only give lip service to their vile religious ideologies and imaginary Gods.

    How many Christians are hypocrites? This link says the vast majority right at the beginning of the link, and I would say that the same number applies to Muslims even though their mosque attendance is higher than the Christian one due to culture more than religion.

    Jesus for the non religious - Retired bishop John Spong on religion.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUmKEH9jnu8

    Regards
    DL

  10. Were religions the first propagators of Fake News?

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    Were religions the first propagators of Fake News?

     

    Fake News is considered to be lies or distortions of the truth. The first wholesale use of lies may have been religions.

     

    Ancient temple inventions meant to fool people

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7BHvN6rZZA

    What Do Con Artists and Religious Leaders Have in Common? With Maria Konnikova

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6DfJVjEMlc&t=4s

     

    Do you think religions were the first propagators of Fake News?

     

    Do you think that the term fraud can be applied to most supernaturally based religions?

     

    Regards

    DL

  14. Christians judge god as good. Gnostic Christians judge god as evil. Which religion is correct?

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    Christians judge god as good. Gnostic Christians judge god as evil. Which religion is correct?

    “The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.” Richard Dawkins.

    I say shame on all Christians for not judging justly and being morally corrupt.

    I offer as evidence of Yahweh’s corruption one simple fact. 1Peter 1:20 0 He was chosen before the creation of the world, but was revealed in these last times for your sake.

    This is god setting a bribe price to reverse his usual justice of punishing the innocent to punishing the guilty. This shows his moral and ethical corruption. It also show Jesus as just as corrupt as he went along with it.

    Gen3;22 Behold, the man has become like one of Us, knowing good and evil;
    1 Thessalonians 5:21 Test all things; hold fast what is good.

    What is your judgement?

    Regards
    DL

    https://vimeo.com/7038401

  15. Satan gave man love. Was it worth the hate?

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    What I meant is, I thought you took offense to the misogynistic and homophobic beliefs of a religion. And yet, there are some religious, or at least churches, that are not homophobic. That is part of their interpretation of the religion. Some even think Jesus and the apostles were gay.

    Most of the questions you asked in the opening are full of metaphor. So you cannot really answer them, without using a metaphor. That's why, you have no idea what you meant.

    Some few have that problem. Thankfully not most.

    Clearing things up are what discussion is all about.

    Regards

    DL 

  19. Satan gave man love. Was it worth the hate?

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    Satan gave man love. Was it worth the hate?

     

    Adam thought so. He instantly and without argument or hesitation ate of that knowledge when Eve offered love to Adam.

     

    Without Satan causing Original Sin, mankind could no know of love or hate as love and hate are subject to being good or evil.

     

    Would you do as Adam did?

     

    Was Satan right in opening our eyes to love and hate?

     

    Should we venerate Satan more than Yahweh who tried to deny mankind love?

     

    Regards

    DL

  20. Would Jesus condemn or condone Yahweh for his crimes against humanity?

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    Would Jesus condemn or condone Yahweh for his crimes against humanity?

     

    I see more than one Jesus speaking through the bible. The good Jesus would likely condemn while the less moral and good Jesus that most follow might not. A number of his policies have been found wanting, --- in moral terms.

     

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUfGRN4HVrQ

     

    Dogma says that Jesus ascended to heaven and his rightful place as judge of the universe at Yahweh’s right hand. The pure hand says tradition.

     

    Would Jesus dethrone Yahweh for the insane genocidal example he shows for a god, or would Jesus somehow justify what Yahweh, and himself to Trinitarians, did?

     

    Would Jesus say that genocide was good?

     

    Heaven forbid.

     

    Condemn or Condone?

     

    I say Jesus would condemn Yahweh.

     

    What say you my moral friends?

     

    https://vimeo.com/7038401

     

    Regards

    DL

      

  23. Is the ongoing punishment of Adam and Eve justifiable?

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    On ‎8‎/‎19‎/‎2018 at 11:51 AM, Leon said:

    BTW Satan doesn't exist anymore.   He lived in the fleshly bodies of such people as Billy Graham and Jerry Falwell plus inumerable Popes.

    They are all rotting in the ground because of course there is no such thing as an afterlife.

    Have a grrreat corporeal existence.  It is the only one you will ever have.

     

    Stay in your pathetic mind set.

    Regards

    DL

  24. Is the ongoing punishment of Adam and Eve justifiable?

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    On ‎8‎/‎19‎/‎2018 at 11:45 AM, Leon said:

    It is mathematically impossible for the human race to be descended from one 'Eve'.

    Your question reflects a stone age mentality and is thus rubbish.  BTW Homo Sapiens arrived at its present form  around 200,000 - 1,000,000 yr ago.

    Get an education, get a brain, get a life.

    Well, part of my life is dedicated to ending the ongoing misogyny that the church has used to discriminate against women forever, so I have so usefulness in my life.

     

    You might want to add usefulness to your pathetic life.

     

    Regards

    DL

     

  25. Should we declare gods public enemy # 1.? Do you understand why we call immoral gods, “Gods”?

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    13 hours ago, Slick said:

    Arguing over the scriptural description of a god is like saying that Santa can't really make it to a few billion homes in one night. We all know that it is a fictitious construct written by men, so why go down this path?

    If you do not see the harm religions do with their homophobic and misogynous teachings, and the fraud they do as the more gullible send them their pension checks, then from YPOV, there would not be a reason. Do you see that harm?

    13 hours ago, Slick said:

    For the most part, people are indoctrinated when they are young,

    Indeed. I call that child abuse. Do you?

     

    13 hours ago, Slick said:

    I suspect that decline to hasten.

    So do I but only if those who see the evils of religion fight back.

    We are still in an era where we still have religions protecting pedophiles and the general population turns a blind eye.

    13 hours ago, Slick said:

    Bullshit,

    Make your case with examples.

    Regards

    DL

     

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