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  1. http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/2003/09/buchanan.htm Read the article then respond
  2. Gugsy, Harper made that letter because eastern Canadians would not accept the Alliance as an alternative, and it seems that if eastern Canada were to ever have economic problems they would try to drain Alberta's resources. It is important that Alberta cut off the flow of money it gives to central Canada, Canadians tend to see Alberta as a piggy bank, nothing more. Its time the west actually starting to toughen up against the eastern provinces. The west should bring in seperatist governments, then the east would surely bow down, vote in Alliance governments, and thier would always be a prime minister from the west, hey it worked in Quebec.
  3. I think this website tells why the west is so angry at the east. http://www.albertaresidentsleague.com
  4. What else did Brian Mulroney do that was so great. -Large spending on social programs -Supporting statism, and social liberalism in all its forms -the skyrocketing debt -Creating western alienation So Defense [and NAFTA] were his only real "conservative acheivements.
  5. A poll from JMCK found that 56% of Albertan's were seriously considering seperation A poll from Compass showed 42% of Albertans were considering seperation in one year the amount of people considering seperation rose 12% points from 8% to 22% PC's have attacked social conservatism, and have also widely supported a bill which would oppress freedom of religion, and freedom of speech. Every single tory with the exception of Elsie Wayne support Svend Robinsons bill C-215, which would make parts of the bible hate speech. The bill would also see those who speak out about homosexuality being immoral could be charged with a hate crime, this happened with a saskatchewan man who said in a paper that homosexuality is immoral, and a BC counsellor who wrote against BC's gay positive program. So if the tories love this country so much why are they all wannabe liberals, the only criticism the tories have of the government is ethics, that is it. So put in place a tory government, and Canada ends up with basically liberals in sheeps clothing, the Canadian Alliance is the only party which actually believes in individual liberty, free markets, and patriotism, the Tories and Liberals hate what the Alliance stands for.
  6. Alright its time to face some of the facts about Canada as a nation, it is near death. Many left wingers here such as Gugsy, and Siriff, may be already prepared to attack me, but lets face it Canada was once one of the most beautiful countries in the world, it was also one of the richest, we had a strong military, and were built around strong families. However the Canada which 100,000 Canadian's died for has been crushed, and destroyed, by 30 years of Liberal and Progressive Conservative governments. The Liberals and PC's have brought in a socialist state, and have moved Canada so far left that even the Canadian Alliance which would be considered a moderate party by world standards is considered to far right wing. Canadians could have reversed the tide of liberalism in Canada when the Reform party was made official opposition, and despite the Reform party, and Canadian Alliance's best efforts the east kept saying no. On issues such as gay marriage, multiculturalism, and religious freedoms, any person whom is against socially liberal doctrine is considered a nazi, bigot, or redneck. So is Canada doomed, in the end it probably is, Alberta, and particularly the west are moving more and more towards western seperation, Paul Martin, Peter Mackay, and the liberals and PC's now are trying to buy Albertan's votes, not earning them, PC's and Liberals represent the old eastern arrogant establishment [i know that many in eastern Canada may hold conservative values, however a large majority seem to be brainwashed], PC's and Liberals have attacked western Canadians for not supporting the establishment, Joe Clark, Peter Mackay, Paul Martin, and Sheila Copps have attacked Albertan's who are opposed to the central Canadian establishment, Mackay and Clark have attacked Harpers proposal which would give Alberta more power to govern its own affairs. In conclusion the fate of Canada depends on two elections 2004, and 2008, if either a Liberal or Progressive Conservative government come about, it is likely that Alberta, BC, and maybe Saskatchewan would bprepared to seperate, or join the states. PC's and Liberals continuosly attack the country which 100,000 Canadians died for, they consider it evil, and racist, and they support the Trudeau state of socialism.
  7. Trudeau was one of the worst prime ministers in our nations history. I bring up the subject because the media calls those who criticize him nazis and bigots. I think that trudeau should be revealed for who he really is a commie pm, that destroyed the Canada 100,000 Canadian's died for.
  8. I wish people would start criticizing trudeau more, he is treated like a god in this country, I think were becoming a bit like nazi germany where all references to god were put out of the class room and replaced by Hitler, the same is happening here.
  9. TRUDEAU: CANADA'S GREAT HELMSMAN By Eric S. Margolis 8 October 2000 TORONTO - `Speak not ill of the dead,' the ancient sages cautioned. Sometimes, however, we must. As now, when we watch the memory of Pierre Trudeau, who died last week, being cynically manipulated, grossly distorted, and cloyingly sentimentalized by his Liberal Party heirs to win votes in upcoming elections. Trudeau's sainted ghost is to be used like the corpse of the Spanish hero, El Cid, strapped onto a horse and sent into battle. Most Canadians have been brainwashed into believing the charming, charismatic Trudeau was a great prime minister who built a strong, prosperous, humane Canada that was morally and socially superior to the United States. This fable was charmingly echoed by the increasingly leftish Toronto Globe & Mail, in one of many weepy hagiographic tributes to St. Pierre: `PM Jean Chretien...considers himself the main defender of Mr Trudeau's liberal vision of a just and compassionate Canada.' Let me precisely quantify the costs of Trudeau's `just and compassionate Canada,' both for Canadians who wish to continue Trudeauismo, and for Americans who are being told by Democrats that socialized Canada offers a far more successful and humane culture than the USA: *In 1968, when Trudeau went from rich, socialist professor who had never held a real job in his life to prime minister, Canada's national debt was a modest $11.3 billion; the federal deficit was zero. When Trudeau left office in 1984, the debt had mushroomed to $128 billion; the deficit to $25 billion annually. But this was just the beginning. *Canada's Great Helmsman created a vast bureaucracy, and massive welfare programs to buy votes for his Liberal Party. He restricted trade and free markets, imposing confiscatory taxes. Trudeau drove Canada so far left that today's opposition Canadian Alliance - a moderate centrist party by world standards - is routinely termed `rightwing' or `far right.' The state-owned Canadian Broadcasting Corp (which I call the Ministry of Truth), teachers unions, the monoculture leftiss academia, and left-leaning media keep brainwashing Canadians that high taxes and big government are good for Canada and the essence of national identity. Anyone who questions rule by bureaucracy, deficit spending, unlimited immigration, or social engineering is denounced as a far-right racist. When Trudeau entered office, Ottawa spent 30% of Canada's total economic output(the same as the USA). When he left, government spending had skyrocketed to almost 53%. With half of Canadians working directly or indirectly for Ottawa, the nation became infected with bureaucratic and union work ethics - state-sponsored laziness. Trudeau and his successor quickly learned a basic strategy of Europe's socialist governments: if the state can employ over half of voters, they will always vote for the party of government. Government is supposed to serve taxpayers. But under Trudeau and his Liberal Party, it became Canadians who labored to serve an increasingly disdainful, autocratic government. Canadians were gulled into believing that when Ottawa taxed them ten dollars, and gave back two, they were getting `benefits' and `social services.' Many adored Trudeau - but I'd also be adored if I had a hundred billion of borrowed taxpayers dollars to give away. *In 1970, the US, Switzerland, and Canada were the world's three richest nations. Canada's robust dollar traded around US $1.06 - ie 6% more than the US dollar. Today, thanks to Trudeau's socialism, and Brian Mulroney's failure to uproot it, the dollar has sunk to a pathetic, humiliating $ .66 cents. C$100 invested in Canada in 1970 would be worth only 66 cents today. Little wonder foreign investment, the lifeblood of Canada's growth, dried up. Most Canadians didn't understand their assets have depreciated, in real value, by 33%. By relentlessly devaluing the dollar, Ottawa literally stole people's savings. *After Trudeau retired, his unstoppable socialist juggernaut picked up speed. Canada's federal debt - the amount Ottawa borrowed in the past that remains unpaid - has skyrocketed to C$ 576 billion - $54,000 per taxpayer. Almost third of your current federal taxes go to paying interest on this debt - just like on a credit card with an unpaid balance. In 1999 alone, Canadians paid $41.5 billion debt interest, four times what Ottawa spent on defense. Add $ 2.3 trillion of unfunded pension liabilities, and the figure rises to a staggering $244,000 owed per taxpayer. Canada's `just' and `compassionate' society is built on a mountain of debt, passed on to coming generations. *In 1970, Canda had one of the lowest debts -and lowest taxes - among industrial nations. Today, Canada ranks as one of three leading debtor nations, with socialist-run Belgium and Italy. While Ottawa's annual deficit was ended by imposing crushing taxes, the monster debt overhang remains. The US is projected to pay off its entire national debt by 2012. At Ottawa's puny repayment rate, it will take Canada 288 more years! *Behind the charade of peacekeeping, Trudeau destroyed Canada's once powerful armed forces, leaving the nation a helpless military eunuch, with virtually no international influence, and totally dependant on the much-reviled `aggressive' US for national defense. *The crown jewel of Canadian socialism, state-run medicine, is a mess. `The cruel, heartless, capitalist' US spends 13.5% of national income on health; Canada spends 9.5%. Unemployment in Canada's `compassionate, gentler' society has run 3.5-5 points higher than in the US. Canada's smartest, most entreprenurial people are fleeing south. Canada has become an economic, intellectual and cultural backwater - bureaucratic Ottawa, writ large. *Trudeau was ardently anti-American, even allowing Cuba's intelligence service to operate against the US from Montreal. He despised the free market, tried to transform Canada into another socialist Sweden, and fawned on marxist dictators like Mao, Nyere, and Castro. Thirty years ago, Canada was rich, powerful and respected. Three decades of bullying Trudeau socialism undermined Canada's economy, the core of a nation's strength, and encouraged separatism in Quebec. The immense historic economic damage inflicted by Trudeau and his successors on Canada may have fatally weakened this once robust nation to the point where joining the US becomes inevitable. This prospect, trillions in debt, and a 66 cent Canadian rupee are Trudeau's real legacy. The great grandchildren of today's Canadians will still be paying for Pierre Trudeau's `just and compassionate society'. Copyright Eric S. Margolis 2000
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