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Thats what it says on TV but the actual evidence says something very different. The government version of Muslims knocking down those buildings is a scientific impossibility. Intelligence experts say that only governments could pull off such a feat and that the US government had to be involved to pull it off. If your entire arguement depends on 911 or Oklahoma you need to find a new one. People are waking up to 911 being an inside job and the movie '911 Mysteries' cannot be discredited.

International bankers finance both sides of the wars and they are the only ones that win. Although we "won" world war 2 we are still paying the bankers for it. All they did was give up paper with numbers written on it.

Wilber, I guess you thought my extention to that cartoon was pretty good, and it made some good points and thats why you had to add all this garbage to the thread.

I mean your work for the empire - trying to add garbage posts to the thread after I explain that point #4 in the NIST report is an obvious outright lie and anyone who has seen any of the 911 videos such as 911Mysteries can easily point that out.

You getting overtime for this stignasty ? - after all it is Sunday night.

You sycophants are always pulling this stunt - I go back to check and find out you are lying. I answered all of your questions. You know it which is why you will not restate them.

Not that hard - people are willing victims or just choose to keep their heads in the sand. If you don't stand up you will be a victim. It may not be the fault of the victim, but the victim bears the responsibility. A failure to acknowledge this just leads to further victimization.

Imperial/IMF Forces charged with spying I wonder if many posters think this would actually be ethical- the detainies being imperial / IMF forces. You would need to increase your IQ by 50 points to figure out what I would do.

Explain how point 4 can be taken as anything but an outright lie.

You are a liar and a waste of space. Go away unless you have something to say.

If they lie in such an obvious way they have been paid off by someone. Anyone can see from the videos that the puffs of smoke emerged before the building collapsed. To get anyone to lie like that you have to pay for it.

You must be able to name one.

Some extremely devout religions over here reject technology completely and they are about as likely to take over as the muslims in the middle east. What you say has probably always been true, but I can't imagine how we could view them as a threat.

- wars with all countries that do not have our private banking system in place - Iran, Syria, and a few others that do not co-operate. - in a few more years the industrial base of the United States will be destroyed completely. - within a few years we will have a Stalinist tattletale society, many people will be taken away to the civilian inmate labour program to make weapons for the military like Hitler did because they said the wrong thing or were in possession of illegal books. Civilian Inmate Labour Program - they will not be able to return to an agragarian society because of the chem trails being laid across the United States & Canada. Its already ruining crops as explained by Devy Kidd after getting her own plants tested and talking with experts. Population will decline by 80 % or more.Dr Pianca - We will be in the North American Union. No one knows what the laws will be - they are being written by corporations now and signed into law by our legislative bodies without reading them. "You have to go along to get along". Essentially we will live in a feudalistic society and evryone will be the property of some corporation. SPP - the cutest kids will be taken away and used as sex slaves, others will be used to harvest organs for the oligarchy so that they may live extended lives. - many people will starve, the owners of the new society will live in safe places, far away from the death and disease that surrounds all but a very few of us. I suspect the stolen trillions are being used to build this separate infrastructure. - The USA will have the worlds largest leper colony

But the puffs of smoke emerging from the buildinmgs were seen before the collapse began in multiple videos, plus there were explosions at the base of the buildings before the collapse began (911Mysteries - see my sig). 911 Mysteries shows explosions happened before the collapses. This explanation doesn't make any sense. David Hawkings (HawksCafe) suggests that the hundreds of millions of dollars made by Silverstein from the 911 "attacks" were used to pay these guys off to make them write this trash.

That may be true of the thermite they used in ww2 to destroy enemy artillary and bridges but physics prof Stephen Jones says there is a new thermate that has particles so fine it goes off like an explosive - its available commerically in the USA. He thinks 1000 kg would be all that is needed to cut critical points of the building and to make the concrete floors explode the way they did as the building collapsed. He says it acts so fast it could be attached with rubber bands to critical points making installation of all explosives doable in one night with a handful of people. This doesn't explain the melted steel, neither does airplane fuel. How does NIST explain the melted steel and the "meteor" (melted steel and concrete mixed togather in big hunks) shown in the movie 911 Mysteries ? Where did these high temperatures come from ? What was responsible for the hot spots viewed on infra red weeks later ? I wonder why FEMA didn't think of drywall when they were trying to figure out the cause of sulfidization. 911Research does an interesting slide show that explains the NIST report and says the NIST report is unscientific propoganda and lists the reasons why. See NIST Report This is a slide show with lots of high res pictures and explains science in easy to understand terms. The slide show explains all the reasons why it is conclusive the the buildings were demolished. Stephen Jones may have his collapse theories but the above link really explains the science behind the collapses of wtc1 & wtc2. Its the best 911 site on the web. It shows pics of lots of different building collapses.

which ones ?

You are right, the above post is insane but you wrote it. The fact that 911 was an inside job is also insane, but it is also fact.

I prefer mariguanna over booze anytime, but never use booze and hardly ever use pot.

They were whitewashes done by people closely connected to government and who benefit from government contracts.

Why wasn't it confirmed to be steel ? These NIST guys must think some of us are pretty dumb. What about the sulfidization that FEMA describes and could not explain ? Are you going to tell me it was drywall and they never thought of that ? Why was Philip Zelikow in charge of this technical investigation when he specializes in propoganda and the maintainance of public myth ? How come the NIST investigation "final report" is being revised all the time ?

aeronatics has structures in it. If you don't believe me look inside an airplane - also dynamically loaded structures - much more complex than buildings. Bowman has a Phd in aeronatical engineering and in nuclear engineering which is the most difficult of the engineering disciplines. Judy Wood specifically specializes in structures.

911Patriots Judy Wood is a professor of materials and structural engineering and says the official version is impossible Judy Wood Analysis Col Robert Bowman has Phd in nuclear and aeronautical engineering says the official version is impossible - "a bunch of hogwash" -see my link to 911Patriots above Thats two.

Few doubts that planes hit the buildings That wasn't Usama bin Laden. That was a black guy carrying around and extra 50 pounds and he had a pug nose. The audio for the tape wasn't avaiable - I think he was planning his sisters wedding. bin Laden is a tall thin middle eastern guy with long nose that had earlier released a statement saying he had no involvement. fake Usama confession tape After four years of torture the confessor confessed to all kinds of things - even stuff that was done after he was imprisoned. Who else ? Where ? What was the motive ? How did he have the opportunity to fly around US airspace for 1/2 hour without being intercepted like 200 or so other flights before him that had gone off course ? How did they get Rumsfeld to give the stand down order on Pentagon defences ? How did they turn an airplane into a weapon using only box cutters when there was military pilots on board + hundreds of passengers. These guys didn't look very big or in particularly good shape to pull that off. No one doubts that there were victims although no trace of victims could be found at Shanksville Pennslyvania.

First page on the thread - all verifiable & falsifiable fact. Collapse of wtc7. Even the FEMA report says the official version has only a "low probability of occurance". The first NIST reports didn't even try to explain it. No official report explains the actual building collapses. Evidence of explosives - sulfidization, melted steel. Piles of experts agree. Google "911Patriots".