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More kids die of the flu than of covid. This is a fact. Just because there are SOME young people who get sick (remember young people can have comorbidities too) does not mean that it's a significant threat to young people. Covid restrictions have certainly had impacts on childhood development. Speech and language, physical development through sports, etc.

75-80% of cases are vaccinated...

Young people end up in hospitals with the flu too... Pneumonia was around long before covid. You know what else the vaccine gives young people? Heart problems. I know one 20 year old who died 2 days after his first shot and a handful of others whove been hospitalized

The vaccines are likely causing the variants. Amazing how only vaccinated people were allowed to travel yet we keep having new foreign variants show up.. Logic blackbird, logic

But Omicron is far less severe than Delta or the original and very few children (less than most flu strains) end up in hospitals. So what's the point of stripping the ability to obtain services from people? You going to answer that question or hurl more insults?

Yes. Then never acknowledge you point. Just hurl insults and act like children like this blackbird fellow then ignore you.

Look at you. I've given you studies on who ends up in hospital with Covid. It's the people with 4 comorbities and the elderly regardless of vaccine status. Are you going to actually acknowledge that fact?

The manipulation of statistics by fools like this blackbird fellow are astonishing The guy has no ability for critical thinking lol. Even if it's more transmissable, who cares? A very small number of people actually end up in hospital vaccinated or unvaccinated so to impose mass vaccination programs on a population then implement discrimination based on faulty logic is ridiculous

It's also debatable if it actually stopped the spread with other variants. Plenty of breakthrough delta cases as well

You are on a political forum. People are going to disagree with you. Grow some thicker skin you coward. They are using the same faulty logic as you are. I'm well aware of it. If it reduces spread then why the hell do we have skyrocketing case numbers and a proportionate case levels between vaccinated and unvaccinated? You have not answered that question jysr result to ad hominemd because you are pathetic

There's no evidence it reduces spread and 75% of hospitalizations at this time are fully vaxxed... Some years the flu is worse than others.

I'm fully vaccinated and think it's dumb that I still have to wear a mask and flash my personal health information to eat in a restaurant. Lots of people feel the same way. I'm also not perpetually afraid that the guy in the booth next to me may have made a different decision regarding the vaccine. If it works the way they say it does I should have nothing to worry about. The fact we are in masks still shows the ineffectiveness of the vaccine and certainly undercuts the narrative that a pass is warrented

What these guys do. It's also debatable if they actually prevent hospitalizations as hospitalizations are now roughly equivalent based on population size. Stats are definitely skewed in favor of the vaccinated as most vaccinated people wouldn't have ended up in hospital regardless.

The vast majority of hospitalizations are people with 4 or more comorbidities. Age and health play more of a factor than vaccine status

1. So what? People have a choice. 2. This is patently false as both vaxxed and unvaxxed spread covid. You could manipulate stats to pass any policy. What if the next guy shows that a certain race of people is causing disproportionate crime? Start restricting mobility of that group of people?

South African doc who first observed omicron says she was pressured by countries in Europe to not state it was a mild illness. Why? Leftists not following science www.news.com.au/technology/science/human-body/south-african-gp-who-raised-alarm-about-omicron-says-she-was-pressured-not-to-call-it-mild/news-story/f236e9a9803e4bc7b440029a7c57bf03%3famp

Considering provinces and other jurisdictions are dropping these mandates primarily because fully vaxxed are spreading Covid then there's no legal reason these things should still exist. Anyone who supports these policies still are only doing so to punish people for their political position.

Just because they are democratically elected doesn't mean the mandates themselves are legal.

I've noticed it's mostly ad hominems

The government didn't enforce their proof of vaccine policy because it was probably illegal. According to off the record staff there was a directive not to enforce it. thestarphoenix.com/news/saskatchewan/vaccine-testing-mandate-for-sask-health-care-goes-unenforced/wcm/3b219917-a765-4e6c-9bc2-e7f2cb0241cc/amp/ That case was brought before the mandates were implemented (end of September) based on hypothetical harm. The decision in the case was the correct one as it was too broad. In the case of losing your job over the mandate, that would be actual harm. You argue it based on protected grounds and build a case. That's how Charter challenges work. Again the government IS NOT arguing there's no limitations on Charter grounds just that somehow they are justified

?. Read a bit about the arguments of the case. The issue was that specific case was overly broad. There's a reason why saskatchewan government gave a directive in November NOT to enforce the proof of vaccine/testing requirements.

The fact is the provincial and federal governments are not disputing the fact that certain mandates violate your charter rights. They are saying they are justified in doing so because some people have gotten sick. It's not in dispute that keeping people off an airplane is a violation of freedom of Mobility. It's whether or not they can justify that. At this point no they cannot as both vaccinated and unvaccinated spread covid

You say "several" challenges have been brought and failed based on charter challenges. Care to cite those? You can resort to ad hominems against Brian Peckford all you like. Still does not negate the fact his legal challenge HAS NOT been heard. That was false. Why do you feel the need to lie? Some challenges have been brought. Mostly on procedural or enforcement grounds. Other charges have stayed based on other issues unrelated to the actual covid fines, like obstruction or contempt of court. Not sure how those are relevant.

Lots of dishonesty among the leftists like the above and Moonbox. Being dishonest is a core value of these folks