
West
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3 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:
1. I'm sorry? Her dancing to celebrate a victory is not acceptable to your Christian values, but dancing at a lesbian wedding is??
2. I'm pretty sure I could find some contradictions impulse you have made on here before. But I like woke Betsy.
Christophobe
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1 hour ago, herbie said:
Save your breath your talking with ppl who think commies and nazis are the same thing and don't lnow how the simplest of things work. And worst of all don't care to know or even learn.
You know like when I was on EI and now the CPP the Trudeau communist dictatorship wouldn't let me look for a job and won't let me get one anymore and controlled how much money I could have? Evil, just plain evil I tell you.
And those bosses, they just want to make ouit one remittance form instead of a shitload every month just like the gov't could run one agency instead of twenty dozen... just more money in their pockets yada yada yada
UBI is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. All you are going to do is make the price of goods go up.. which in the end the poor still won't be able to afford it and the middle class will become poor because of rising cost of living.
It's what you see with Trudeau's obsession with printing money to pay for his stupid causes.
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4 hours ago, TreeBeard said:
Right…. The two mutually exclusive bogey-men coming to hold you down and give you a vaccine…. Or something.
None of that sentence made sense. Try again.
Just because you are ignorant of the facts doesnt mean you are correct.
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25 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:
According to you, the problem is communism. But you don’t seem to even know what that is.
Yes, you certainly do imagine a lot of things. How would a UBI be tied to woke causes? Be more specific.
No according to me the problem is a marriage between communism (big government) and fascism (corporate tyranny) which is evident to anyone paying attention.
I would imagine UBI would work the same way as investment to business now and SDG scores.
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16 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:
Yeah paranoid dummies like tech genius Elon Musk and Democrat influencer Bill Maher compared Trudeau to Hitler. I guess we can add the word “paranoid” to the list of insults used to dismiss people who disagree with Liberal policy:
racist
misogynist
conspiracy theorist
unacceptable
paranoid
Trudeau's a vile man. No question about that.
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2 hours ago, myata said:
It doesn't equate to slavery, but it would create a significant totally dependent zero independence part of the population that will be extremely easy to manipulate (quasi democratically) with the carrot / stick scheme. A variant of the future described in Well's Time Machine and countless post apocalypse fiction. I just keep wondering are we doomed from the outset? In unknown number of generations just couldn't figure out how to 1) make sense and 2) keep it in a balance.
Sure it does.. recieving a small ration in exchange for complete obedience to the state..
Agree with the rest tho
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1 hour ago, Jack9000 said:Gst rebates and dental care is far from communist policys just stop your bs already everything you disagree with is communist you make a fool of yourself on here daily.
The arrivecan app where the government demands the ability to track you in exchange for your right to enter your own damn country is 100% right out of commie land
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2 hours ago, TreeBeard said:
That’s simply a failing of your knowledge, and maybe a lack of ability for you to learn or understand what communism is.
What are they forcing on the population? Be specific.
Or just you trying to dance around the actual issues by arguing about words. Lowest form of argument.
I would imagine UBI will be tied to woke causes as I've already stated. If you don't agree with the government no rations for you..
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On 9/1/2022 at 12:08 PM, TreeBeard said:
It’s the 4th Commandment, yet you don’t follow it. Hence, it is ignored. What other Commandments can you ignore?
The fourth commandment says the sabbath is a Saturday?
And for the record yes I do honor the sabbath
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11 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:
I'm not interested in their plan, but how does paying people to do nothing equate to slavery exactly?
Slavery: no pay, work
UBI: pay, no work
Your ubi will be tied to your wokeness just like your job was tied to your pseudovax
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9 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:
Vax passes caused people to lose their ability to eat?
Communism - state ownership of all private resources
Corporate fascism - is that a corporatocracy where corporations control the government?
Seems like these two systems are mutually exclusive.
You sure you’re not just throwing out buzzwords like poop to a wall and seeing what sticks?I fail to see how UBI, where governments control how much money you get monthly, is not communism.
I also fail to see how corporate hogs forcing their will on the population isn't fascism.
It's a marriage between the two.
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https://ceosforbasicincome.ca/letter-2022
So some of the wealthiest CEOs are now jumping on the UBI train. And leftists pretend still they are about the working class.
They are partnering with big corps to enslave the masses. Communism coupled with corporate fascism... thats the model. Double whammy. Kowtow or lose your ability to eat just like the disgusting vaxx passes.
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Polievre is a scam artist. Also brought back "social distancing". Next will be masks and the argument that he's actually cutting you a break by making you pay Rona Ambrose some money to "test" in order to cross the border.
He's as sick as Tru-blow. A WEF flunky... sad
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1 hour ago, Jack9000 said:
well he did basically call natives lazy years and years back soo i mean ? he may not be racist but saying things like that in public isnt a good look.
And Trudeau groped women and wore blackface multiple times yet he's still your hero
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Whats the over/under on leftists bringing out the usual allegations of racism?
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I'd say yes. It's commu-fascism.
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13 hours ago, Bill67 said:
Anyone who works in Canada has had to sit through Diversity training. Listen to lies about systemic racism and imaginary oppression. Let's fact check anti black racism and the lies about blacks being enslaved in Canada.
The Conquest of New France by the British in 1763 gave New France to the British Empire. Yes, pre-confederation, which predates Canada, there was slavery. The colonists and British parliament were quick to end slavery.
Upper Canada (which is now Ontario) abolished slavery in 1793/94 which predates Canada. In 1834, slavery was banned in all British colonies. This is 33 years before Canada existed.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Act_Against_Slavery
On March 25, 1807, the slave trade was abolished throughout the British Empire – of which British North America was a part – making it illegal to buy or sell human beings and ending much of the transatlantic trade.
On Prince Edward Island, the complete abolition of slavery was pronounced by the legislature on 1825, nine years before the Imperial abolition of 1834.
https://humanrights.ca/story/the-story-of-slavery-in-canadian-history
Now we know Canada that never had slavery but France and Britain did in their colonies. Of course, Canada is not responsible for the actions of the previous empires that ruled here but for context, the extent of slavery here should be explored.
Between 1671 and 1834, there was an estimated 1, 400 Black slaves in the colonies. For the entire 17th century, there were only 7 slaves who were Blacks in the colonies.
After 1760, the number of Black slaves in the colony increased considerably, from 300 to more than 800.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Act_Against_Slavery
In the 1800's, the numbers also dropped with the above laws impacting the legality of slavery. Canada saved many slaves through the Underground Railroad. In 1834, there were less than 800 Black slaves in the colony.
At the time of Confederation, there were zero Black slaves in Canada. Obviously, the few hundred former slaves experienced inter generational trauma. We are now in 2022 and hearing more and more about how racist and oppressive Canada is.
Are we to believe these few hundred people from 1834 that were enslaved are still oppressed? It's been almost 200 years.
Do Jewish people claim oppression in 2022 because of Nazi Germany in the 30 and 40's?
Chinese people do not claim they face "barriers " in 2022 because of the Chinese Head Tax.
Japanese are not talking about inter generational trauma despite WW2.
All of three aforementioned groups do better than " whites " in earnings. Yet each has a legitimate claim to having faced systemic barriers and oppression. Why does only one group, based on a few hundred people 200 years ago, suffer from inter generational trauma?
Now, we also have to believe that all Black people experience intergenerational trauma from slavery. Even immigrants from Africa who were never enslaved. Even people who immigrated here and are highly successful and would NEVER go back to their country of origin. People like Desmond and Anthony Morgan. Professional race baiters, according to some, selling their grift. Morgan makes 150k/year " fighting anti black racism" in Toronto. This is tax payers dollars.
The anti black racism unit actually has racist programs that are only available to black people. Interesting that an anti racism unit engages in racial discrimination with tax dollars.
https://www.sunshineliststats.com/Salary/anthonymorgan/2021/9/?employer=cityoftoronto
How about Canadians who suffered through WW1, the depression, and WW2? That impacted millions and millions of people less than a hundred years ago but they recovered.
If someone was one of the 1,000 people linked to pre Canada slavery, they had 7 generations to recover. 200 years to learn a trade/skill , start a business, acquire wealth. That is not a disadvantage.
No one mentions in these diversity sessions that Indigenous and Blacks were also slave owners and that slavery pre existed European arrival. It was a common practice.
Slave-owning people of what became Canada were, for example, the fishing societies, such as the Yurok, that lived along the Pacific coast from Alaska to California,[7] on what is sometimes described as the Pacific or Northern Northwest Coast. Some of the indigenous peoples of the Pacific Northwest Coast, such as the Haida and Tlingit, were traditionally known as fierce warriors and slave-traders, raiding as far as California. Slavery was hereditary, the slaves being prisoners of war and their descendants were slaves.[8] Some nations in British Columbia continued to segregate and ostracize the descendants of slaves as late as the 1970s.
Despite the British Empire abolishing Slavery, it continued in Africa. The African slavers continued to sell Black people and still do to this day.
On any given day in 2016, an estimated 9.2 million men, women, and children were living in modern slavery in Africa. The region has the highest rate of prevalence, with 7.6 people living in modern slavery for every 1,000 people in the region.
Canada. Wake up. You're being fed lies and division and hate.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Canada
https://www.sunshineliststats.com/Salary/anthonymorgan/2021/9/?employer=cityoftoronto
What you talking about? The aboriginals lived a utopia before whitey showed up dontchaknow?
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47 minutes ago, I am Groot said:
How much do you imagine we pay for the monarchy? In the UK it's long established that the monarchy pays for itself multiple times over through increased tourism. In Canada all we pay for is the GG's salary.
More to the point, if you were a conservative you would realize the importance of uniting a people through the history, traditions and institutions of a nation. But you're not really a Canadian conservative. You're a desperate Trumpist who sees himself as an American, worships the man, and despises the country he's in.
In an interview Stephen Harper once had, when he was prime minister, on the subject of the Crown, he said that, “like most Canadians, I was largely indifferent to the Crown.” But then he went on to say that since he held high office, he had come to see its remarkable value. Even more importantly, he added in a somewhat dark aside, “I have looked closely at the alternatives and they scare me.”
I have no problem uniting through history just don't believe I should how to someone because his mommy is someone important. They are mere humans, not God
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5 hours ago, I am Groot said:
That's because it's in the nature of the Left to sneer at anything which represents Canada's traditions, history and values. It's in their nature to mock and ridicule everything about Western civilization and its accomplishments and institutions. Only by tearing down what was so painstakingly built up by better people can they hope to bring about their vaguely defined idea of the perfect society. Although, of course, they've no idea how to do that or what it would entail.
It's not just the left.
I'm a conservative and I oppose the monarchy because I'm not about making a family a charity case and don't believe you should get a job because of your mommy.
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39 minutes ago, I am Groot said:
You're a pervert and a loser. Go away.
You are an Epstein apologist... pretty twisted.
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1 hour ago, I am Groot said:
Epstein paid her in money, but mostly in letting her live on his island and experience the life of the rich and famous. Tons of young women would have been happy to do the same. And did. Virtually every rock star from the 1960s on had a cadre of such women following them around.
You seem to be as incapable of understanding the difference between Epstein and Andrew as you are in understanding what a pedophile is. Nothing Andrew did was illegal, despite what vacuous and hypocritical moral prudes like you might want to make of it. And given your reverence for Trump and completely waving away all his pervasions, his barging into the dressing rooms of teenage beauty contestants, his adultery, his paying of prostitutes, strippers and porn stars, his bragging about his sexual exploits on air and his lewd statements about his own daughter anything that comes out of that sewer of a mind of yours about Andrew is so much drool.
Gawd whats wrong with you?
Never thought i would see the day where we'd see an Epstein apologist.
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9 minutes ago, I am Groot said:
She was a prostitute. And Epstein paid her. She was one of the bimbos who ran around with him and who he loaned out to friends (and were quite content to be loaned out to friends). Her story has changed a dozen times since the lawyers first told her how much money she could make by cashing in on Epstein.
You're acting awfully prudish for a guy who would sell his soul for a chance to have Donald Trump piss on him. Do you think he was disgusting for having sex with prostitutes, porn stars and strippers? Do you wonder why he's not in jail for paying them?
So he was a John which is illegal.. and she was a minor.. but yeah let's blame her eh..
The only reason he's not sitting behind bars is because he's the queens son.. which is sick.
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Just now, I am Groot said:
You're a pathetic, immature child. Though, given the lack of thought in most of your posts that surprises me not at all.
Andrew isn't a pedophile because he had sex with a 17 year old girl. Do you even know what a pedophile is? And her family are a hell of a lot less dysfunctional than most. I wonder how others would fare under the ceaseless spotlight of cameras and microphones.
The dudes like 60 and paid her..
Amazing how disgusting people like you are defending that.
CEOs back leftists UBI push
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We literally just saw that with CERB and the rest of the wreckless spending Trudeau has done.
Giving people more money to chase after the same goods and services is not going to improve their quality of life. The only possible way to do that is through efficiencies in producing more goods and services.
Not really as complex as you are trying to make it sound. Only the dumb suggest more money is the solution ?