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2 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:
the evidence that this is not an emergency is exponential and worldwide
the evidence that this is an actual emergency is nil
when this gets to court
there are going to be a lot of rich truckers all of a sudden
As long as it comes out of Trudeaus bank account.
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3 minutes ago, blackbird said:
By continuing to occupy Ottawa they are continuing to break the laws and the emergency act. This is illegal and a revolt against the authorities and government.
You use strong language which doesn't exactly reflect what's actually going on.
Nice try
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5 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:
bear in mind, the Emergencies Act does NOT empower them to violate your Charter rights
you still have Charter rights under the Emergencies Act
so this is going to cost the taxpayer a lot of money in the end, from all the lawsuits
When all is set and done lawsuits should go against companies like GM if it's determined they pressures the government to violate charter rights.
In the letter given to truckers, they use the word "may". You "may" end up in jail. Not going to happen just an idle threat from our Supreme Leader.
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Just now, blackbird said:
insurrection: [noun] an act or instance of revolting against civil authority or an established government.
Who's revolting???
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4 minutes ago, Moonbox said:
Hey dude. You're not even quoting me. What do you expect me to add to this?
Just want your opinion.
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Trudeau has declared war on his own people by declaring the Emergencies Act (formerly War Measures Act) for the crime of supporting protests against him.
Which country should we now seek asylum in? Biden's just as crazy. Maybe Brazil?
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1 minute ago, Zeitgeist said:
So it’s official: Coming to Ottawa to protest is illegal.
You know it's pretty bad when even China is calling out our prime minister for abuse of power
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6 minutes ago, Goddess said:
Are you a moderator here?
Because you seem to have appointed yourself as the posting police, determining what can said and how and by whom and in which thread.
This is a discussion forum.
Everyone here is free to discuss.
You know what they say about men who feel the need to brutally control and micromanage others through use of insults and name-calling and arbitrary rules......trying to make up for a certain....errr....physical "lack."
He is a leftist. When he can't refute he resorts to a handful of tactics. They include
1. Ignore
2. Insults
3. Censor
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2 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:
The mainstream media continues to back Trudeau, it seems. So sad what’s happened to Canada. This is just one quote from Global News:
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Under the terms of the Emergencies Act, police warned that people are also prohibited from coming to Ottawa in order to join the demonstration, and that police can seize any vehicles taking part in it. “Anyone who commits these illegal actions could face fines or be required to appear in court,” the notice continued. “Commercial vehicle drivers’ licences and private drivers’ licences can be suspended or revoked.” Bringing children to the demonstrations is also prohibited, with a potential fine of $5,000 or up to five years in prison as a result.
Yup ctv is state propaganda alright
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37 minutes ago, blackbird said:
No bud. You are badly deceived. Many of the players in it think they are just peaceful protesters but they are being used by a small group of conspirators. This is an attempted insurrection driven by foreign money from the far right in the U.S.
@Moonbox
Do you expect us to take you guys seriously with a comment like this?
An insurrection? ?
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7 minutes ago, Moonbox said:
What are you even talking about here?
I've asked you twice to answer a simple question. You're just rambling about other stuff now. That's exactly what deflecting is.
You seem to be calling China's belt road experiment a "conspiracy theory".
If youd actually read my posts you'd see I have answered.
NO I'm not concerned about granny from Texas giving a couple bucks to help the protests. 10 million is a drop in the bucket compared to how much foreign companies like Pfizer and Moderna have paid infiltrated our public health policy.
Corporations like that have done far more damage to our democracy than granny in Texas buying a trucker McDonald's.
I'm also not concerned as this protest was organic. The stuff about "foreigners undermining democracy" here is pathetic. Sounds like hillarys tantrum after she lost the election
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18 minutes ago, blackbird said:
You think this is just a peaceful protest? The truth has been coming out. This is run by a highly organized movement intent on overthrowing the democratically-elected government and Parliamentary system. CTV just reported this again. Wake up goof.
Yes in comparison to the Summer of Love this is very peaceful.
As for highly organized.. they used GoFundMe ?. Everyone knows go fund me is woke and would try and steal their money.
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11 minutes ago, Moonbox said:
I'm not really too interested in your conspiracy theories man. They're all the same no matter the topic, and pretty boring at this point. Whether you believe them or not, whether they're true or not, they have little bearing on how appropriate it is for foreign money to finance domestic protests.
I'm talking about the protests. You're deflecting. I asked you a direct question. Could you please answer?? take any businesses ethics course. The China experiment is generally a case study you'll find to discuss ethical implications of marketing, international trade etc.
It's not a deflection at all. I'm pointing out there's foreign money driving restrictions. Several billion actually. Yet you are more concerned with granny in Texas sending $20 from her pension money to help fight against global interests.
Foreign money wouldn't exist here if the issues weren't global. People in Texas feel just as strongly about freedom as I do.
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1 minute ago, Moonbox said:
I think that's more of a pull than a push. I don't think Pfizer and Moderna needed to do a lot of lobbying to get Canadians (or most of the rest of the world) on board with vaccinating.
That's another conspiracy theory but whether you believe it or not, it doesn't have much bearing on whether foreigners funding domestic protests is acceptable.
How would you feel if an Indigenous protest blocked the TransCanada highway or a pipeline or something, and you had millions of Chinese people sending them $1 each? Answer honestly.Pfizer and Moderna's lobbying goes far beyond just governments. They spend billions to influence legacy media as well. When you look at every time the press claims myocarditis is "mild", they are doing the bidding of those who pay their bills.
And yes the bizarre restrictions on the unvaccinated are very likely a result of lobbying. Just look at it now.. their shares have dropped 70% basically within a couple hours as more countries say no to the restrictions.
It's the belt road experiment but only in the west. Create demand for a product that people don't otherwise want through manipulative sales practice and if necessary coercion.
Yet you are fine with that?
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5 minutes ago, Moonbox said:
There's no doubt Trudeau is a hypocrite, but two wrongs don't make a right. If you can't see the problem with foreign funding for domestic protests, and your argument is, "but but but Trudeau!" then you're going to have a tough time being taken seriously.
Regarding Ukraine, sending arms to an ally to help them deter outside military aggression is very different from funding domestic protests on their soil. Hopefully you can see that.
Do you not think Pfizer and Moderna are influencing our public health policy through lobbying?
A bit more concerned about that than some old granny in the US buying a trucker food.
How so? Canadians fund foreign protests all the time ?. How many Canadians do you think sent money to fund BLM protests?
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5 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:
Anyone can provide financial support to any protest anywhere. Is this China? Ever see the “bonds for Israel” signs on lawns in Forest Hill? What do you think the Canadian aid for Ukraine is? I’m glad Americans donated to the Freedom Convoy and the fact that the Canadian government is trying to freeze the assets illustrates continued attempts at fascist control.
Ironically it was a foreign company, general motors, who was likely the ones pushing for the Emergencies Act to be involved ?
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6 minutes ago, Moonbox said:
That's exactly what it means. It might not change the intent or message of the protest, but when foreign money is being used to support domestic protests, that's influencing Canadian politics at large and it's no bueno.
That's another issue altogether but one worth discussing I guess. The SNC Lavalin affair was a pretty clear example of compromised ethics and that wasn't even a foreign corporation. That doesn't make foreign funding for domestic protests any more acceptable, however.
It's a distraction to try and discredit the protests. The border restrictions impact the US just as much as it impacts us.
The point I'm making is our PM cries about "foreign influence" whenever it suits him. He's starting to sound like Hillary Clinton. Sends billions of tax dollars to arm Ukrainians and interfere in their political processes, but Canadians challenge their power then all the sudden its a war crime. Pretty pathetic when you think of it
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8 minutes ago, Moonbox said:
Guys, here's a case where some of us might actually have some sympathy for your arguments and we could find some common ground. Can you try not to drown the thread out in hyperbole like so many others and at least make an attempt at maintaining a reasonable conversation?
What's hyperbole?
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9 minutes ago, Moonbox said:
Don't know but there aren't really good alternatives to the Ambassador Bridge. That's why the Gordie Howe Bridge project is so important. The Ambassador Bridge already couldn't handle existing traffic and was a huge bottleneck in the supply chain, so when you close it down there aren't really valid alternatives.
I know it's hard to imagine, but I'm also concerned with corporate lobbying and influencing. Croneyism is a general problem with all of our political parties. I've often explained that we have a choice of getting screwed by our public sector unions or by our corporations depending on which party gets elected.
I think it's more likely that the existing protestors just keep protesting.
The protest was organized by Canadians for Canadians. If people from other places decided to donate, that doesn't mean the protest itself is influenced by foreigners. Certainly not to the extent that Trudeau's government is. These people would've protested regardless.
Don't get me wrong I'm sure it's inconvenient. I'm sure these people would rather be back to work and be free from government overreach.
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13 minutes ago, Moonbox said:
The Ambassador Bridge was fully shut down. Your understanding is wrong. That was over $300M of trade per day that was being compromised.
As far as donations go, the bigger issue (IMO) is when you have foreign money financing domestic unrest. The numbers they posted on Monday showed over 50% of the names that were donating to the protest were American. Thankfully that's not Chinese or Russian, but if you can't see the problem with at least that, then you're not really being reasonable.
How many ports of entry are in southern Ontario? While I'm sure it was inconvenient, that doesn't make it "sedition" lol.
As for foreign money, you seem more concerned about someone in the states giving the convoy $20.00 than foreign multinational corps influencing political decisions in Canada. Very telling
Better brace yourself because what's coming next week, a national strike, is gonna cost more than $300 million a day
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Just now, myata said:
But what do you want? It's the government now that decides right from wrong. It it has no controls, checks or limits. What else could one expect? Wouldn't it be like entirely unnatural?
Trudeau supports the cause therefore burn away
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7 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said:
talking to neo-nazi's doesn't make one a neo-nazi
Ezra f*cked up
pandered to the woke
and that just made them come after him even harder
Ezra was miffed at the time that she was taking him to the cleaners.
The only thing good about Ezra is that he raises money to fight Covid fines. Other than that he's kind of a loon.
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2 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:
Blackbird doesn’t know that the arrests in Alberta over arms involved people who weren’t protesters.
Blackbird doesn’t seem to know that the Ambassador Bridge isn’t the only crossing in Windsor.
Blackbird’s Covid fears are looking increasingly overblown and don’t match reality.
Trudeau doesn’t even talk about Covid anymore because the mandates, restrictions, and Emergency Measures Act don’t have anything to do with Covid and it doesn’t take much inquiry to see the massive power grab that’s underway. What’s more frightening is that he’s getting away with it so far.
Again though, if Canadians refuse to remove tyranny and restore constitutional rights, the country will be written off and the coming political swing in the US will have consequences for Canada.
Canadians, look outside your Liberal/CBC iron curtain at how Britain and the US are opening up. See that these countries are strongholds of freedom. Europe is weak and much of the world has fallen under the control of China-influenced international central planning. That’s what’s really happening and digital vaccine passports, the outlawing of protests, and the seizure of bank accounts are our reality. Canada is in serious crisis.
I think we have set the bar pretty high for tolerance of nonsense in this country. The fact that legacy media is calling this "sedition" for protesting on a bridge (my understanding is neither were fully shut down) and potentially slowing traffic at 2 of 1000+ ports of entry in Canada is telling.
There's absolutely no need to be freezing people's bank accounts over a donation to a protest. It's just dictatorship type stuff
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2 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:
blackbird is just scared shitless because he knows we're winning
Trucker's Convoy
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I think I get you know. You are just trolling.
Nicely played sir, nicely played