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14 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said:
Does anyone here actually think they can change someone's mind with your posts?
Are we going to have any impact on policy on this, or any, forum?
I think social media is 100% effective. Its why you see so much censorship. Not here thankfullying...
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3 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:
Ha! Could not prove your lie. I knew it.
You only accuse but cannot back up your lying accusations.
What lie is that?
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17 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:
The people of Ottawa??? Not the millions of others in the country that voted liberal???
Suck it up puddin.
Regardless of the outcome, you will still be a loser as nothing will be done so you can weep and cry for ever.
May as well paint the big L on your forehead with indelible ink as it will always be there LOL
Meh... every province dropped the mandates. Trudeau tried to hold on to relevance but then we saw how dumb he was by disruption of supply chains (as testimony alluded to) and the cluster at airports this summer. Even the privileged ones saw that Trudeau's mandates were ridiculous and he suspended the air travel mandates because it was obviously dumb
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15 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:
I never once said "direct evidence of a threat of extremist violence". Once again, it is you that is lying LOL
Try and prove your lie ....go ahead, try. Once again, when asked for proof, all we get from you is crickets. LOL Your silence is golden
This was the rationale behind Trudeau's imposition of a declaration of war on his citizens
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So we are supposed to wait to here what the white upper class folks tell us to think on the matter and what we allowed to protest. Right... experts and all ?
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34 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said:
Instead, the participants and organizers wanted to force the Provincial and Federal governments to implement a policy that would increase the spread of covid 19 and thus cause the deaths of more people.
As mentioned above, we need to wait for the commission to complete its work and issue its findings.
Nonsense. Get vaccinated if you choose but don't use it to divide the population and accuse people of murdering grandmothers. There's no basis in fact there.
Also you should have no say in what I put in my body nor should you threaten, harass, intimidate, or coerce me into taking a pharmaceutical
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15 minutes ago, Contrarian said:
by imposing themselves into the affairs of Canadian citizens that live in Ottawa.
Allegedly.
I dont feel too bad for the people of Ottawa. They are the ones voting for the clowns who were harassing people over a pharmaceutical product and face diaper for a few years
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I can guarantee you if this protest was for a pre approved view the media approves of, like trans washrooms, we'd be raving about the turnout and they'd be hailing the organizers as heros. No "Emergencies Act" would've been needed.
Trudeau is just upset the peasants don't show up with this many people to the causes he tells them to
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16 minutes ago, Contrarian said:
The investigation is just starting now. We will know at the end what the judge says.
However, what is your estimation on the number of protestors that went into Ottawa?
It's hard to know. Ive seen 1000 ive seen 2000 ive seen 18k ive seen 100k. Much of it depends on the slant of the news reporter... small fringe and whatnot and smears.
While it's possible there may have been a few thousand at certain points, that still doesn't necessarily tell you totals as obviously some may have come for an hour or two and left.
It's not irrelevant tht the opp debunked the Russia and extremists tho.. we all know these were just average Canadians fed up with governments trying to impose themselves into your private affairs
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4 minutes ago, Contrarian said:
so wait -> how many protestors were there according to your sources?
More than 2000... it defies logic they were overwhelmed enough they needed an EO for 2000 demonstrators
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12 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:
You are one funny guy.
"Police said as of Monday there were 418 vehicles in the "red zone" and about 100 protesters on the Wellington Street corridor."
Keep on keeping on from your basement LOL LOL LOL LOL
Supt. Pat Morris, the head of the OPP’s Provincial Operations Intelligence Bureau, told an inquiry probing the use of the Emergencies Act that his unit turned up no direct evidence of a threat of extremist violence after weeks of analysis and information-gathering on the protest participants.
Even after you are called a liar by the OPP you still keep going. Take the L bruh you are making a fool of yourself
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7 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:
You are one funny guy.
"Police said as of Monday there were 418 vehicles in the "red zone" and about 100 protesters on the Wellington Street corridor."
Keep on keeping on from your basement LOL LOL LOL LOL
Dodge and weave... you clearly are a troll
Lol 2000 protesters.. and EO needs to be invoked.. ?
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14 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:
Last 2 days of the debacle. 0ver 500 tickets issues and on the last 2 days over 350 of them.
Live stream on global.ca.... key here is live stream. No hear say, live..
First weekend. That is what you are talking so that is what I provided. Better source that from your basement observations at your keyboard LOL.
Did you actually read your linked MSM article. It contradicts and makes your comments BS LOL
Oh, if you have a better source, for the first weekend total people, please provide.... but I suspect, when questioned, like always, crickets from you LOL
Contradicts what? I'm showing what they claim which was 100 trucks and I'm saying 102 trucks had already cleared out by the time of the Emergencies Act so either they are lying about how many trucks were there (likely) or there simply wasn't the numbers to justify the EA. I KNOW THATS HARD FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND
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29 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:
Ha Ha Ha Youtube accurate? Facebook accurate? Tiktok accurate or West, sitting on his but in front of his keyboard accurate?? Ha Ha Ha
"The convoys consisted of three main routes across Canada, which would converge for the Ottawa protest on the weekend. The Ottawa Police Service estimated up to 2,000 demonstrators in the city on the weekend."
Lol 2000. And wiki as a source
You write that wiki entry
Very impressive they required that much police power for 2000 people and the 2000 people could "hold a city hostage"
This article says about 100 trucks were downtown so if 102 were moved before the violent dispersal why the need for the Emergencies Act?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/beta.ctvnews.ca/local/ottawa/2022/2/8/1_5772103.amp.html
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3 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:
Ha Ha Ha Youtube accurate? Facebook accurate? Tiktok accurate or West, sitting on his but in front of his keyboard accurate?? Ha Ha Ha
"The convoys consisted of three main routes across Canada, which would converge for the Ottawa protest on the weekend. The Ottawa Police Service estimated up to 2,000 demonstrators in the city on the weekend."
Or the coordinator of intelligence stating you and your favorite news Chanels were lying?
You are a disgrace
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12 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:
Ottawa police directed them through, not to stop and block traffic.,
There was no deal reached, there was an attempted deal in the works, nothing reached or confirmed. Even lich conformed that months ago.
You watching YouTube or facebook or tiktok snippets again? LOL
"The documents show 192 charges were issued on Feb. 18 and 196 charges were issued on Feb. 19, as police began an operation to end the occupation of downtown Ottawa and clear the streets."
Yes most of those charges were related to covid nazis uttering threats and smashing off mirrors from trucks
And yes Ottawa police did park and direct traffick.. this is a convenient fact you ignore..
And no the convoy didn't block off streets.. that was the police who did that.
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7 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:
"hundreds of thousands"....ha ha ha now look who is lying Ha Ha Ha
More accurate Than those pesky Russians setting up a protest... sure every Canadian just loves the sicko in Ottawas threats and intimidation over a vaccine... if you say so
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Just now, Queenmandy85 said:
What did I say that was inflammatory?
Are you saying there were no Public Health Orders?
Are you saying Parliament should not come up with a mechanism to deal with this kind of disruption that is more appropriate than the EMA?
Are you saying the elected Government should give in to a small minority of unelected occupiers?
"Trudeau: Yes, I think the society must take every means at its disposal to defend itself against the emergence of a parallel power which defies the elected power in this country and I think that goes to any distance. So long as there is a power in here which is challenging the elected representative of the people I think that power must be stopped and I think it’s only, I repeat, weak-kneed bleeding hearts who are afraid to take these measures."
Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau, Oct. 13, 1970.
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"You do not negotiate with hostage takers."
this is a mischaracterization and a disgrace. These people have every right to protest and you as a former law enforcement officer should be ashamed of yourself
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6 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said:
Regardless of the outcome of the inquiry, Parliament should come up with legislation to deal with this type of situation. In the October crisis it was acknowledged by the Government that it was too powerful a tool but it was all they had.The Emergencies Act was thought to be a more acceptable approach but, perhaps, it too is too large a hammer. We need a mechanism to deal with domestic conflict that cannot be interpreted as over reach, yet prevents a group from holding a community hostage.
Rule number 1 in life is you do not pay blackmail. You do not negotiate with hostage takers. If you do, it will never end. As fot the participants in the occupation, Their message was already communicated to the Government before they even entered Ottawa. The message that they did not like Public Health Orders was already known. They could have achieved the same result with a letter. They represent a minority opinion in Canada and had no realistic possibility of success until the Covid numbers came down. Governments have a duty to protect the citizen. That was what the Public Health Orders introduced by the Provincial Governments were for. It appears likely, the mandates will have to be brought back this winter to save as many lives as possible, should a lethal variant return. As it is, when you compare the lack of restrictions in the US with the response of the Canadian Provincial and Federal Governments, our mortality rate is significantly lower.
Your inflammatory rhetoric is disgraceful.
There was no "hostage taking" there was hundreds of thousands of people who showed up to voice displeasure with barbaric and inhumane Government policy. Nothing more nothing less
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14 hours ago, PIK said:
Charter doesn't cover trucks.
They were driving on Public streets funded by taxpayers.
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23 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:
102 trucks over the course of the protests and off side streets. Wellington was blocked and barricaded. None towed from there till barricades came down, the day after EMA enacted.
Oh and the towed vehicles were not all trucks, they were cars too and even residents vehicles. No discrimination. They were told they were going to be towed and were. As the testimony described.
So cooperative that instead of moving the vehicle, it had to be towed. Are you really that whacked?? LOL
Yes which Ottawa police directed.. thats what you fail to understand.
There was a deal reached prior to invoking of the Emergencies Act that they would move all trucks out of downtown except for in front of the PMO. That's when the PMO invoked the Act.. because it was embarrassing for them, not an actual threat.
The Police did their jobs and came to a peaceful resolution. Sloly was forced out because the PMO wanted a violent dispersal. Nothing more nothing less
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1 minute ago, Dougie93 said:
even with the military variant, the fully automatic mode is rarely if ever used
as unless you are point blank to the target, most of your rounds will go high & wide, waste of ammo
the most effective way to employ the AR is to exploit its precision accuracy
single aimed shots
in close contact, you simply take those single aimed shots at a very high rate of fire
fast as you can pull the trigger, which for a properly trained infantryman, is more than fast enough
Yes and mostly used for small game on farms and whatnot.
Assault weapons is just a name the lefties use to muddy the waters
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8 hours ago, TreeBeard said:
Do you think people should be allowed to own fully auto machine guns? What about rocket launchers?
Fully auto no. Then again you folks call an ar15 a fully auto...
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13 hours ago, PIK said:
Charter doesn't cover trucks.
The Ottawa police directed the traffic and by the time the Emergencies Act was called the convoy already moved 102 trucks out of downtown. There was about 300 all together.
So the convoy was cooperative...
Did Justin Trudeau committ war crimes?
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Wrong. The convoy took their direction from Ottawa police and worked to move out vehicles before Trudeau wanted blood and violence.