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  2. The Trump admin and ICE arrested a woman and her children who are in the U.S. legally

    in Federal Politics in the United States

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    1 minute ago, robosmith said:

    I KNOW you are ARROGANT enough to believe you're always right because you FORGET when you've been PROVEN WRONG. LMAO

    Like I have said...I'm wrong seldom and admit it when I am.

    You...make a habit of being wrong. But that's because you're on a mission to destroy someone who's so far out of your league and reach that your efforts are quite comical.

  5. The Trump admin and ICE arrested a woman and her children who are in the U.S. legally

    in Federal Politics in the United States

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    8 hours ago, blackbird said:

    Both did a lot of deportations, mostly without due process.

    So I am not defending what Obama did.  The U.S. in general has lost its sense of humanitarianism and justice.

    Here is an article that describes both President's history of deportations.  Nothing to be proud of.  If you have any humanity you should change your attitude.  

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    Introduction

     

    Deportations have long sparked debate in the U.S., especially over whether immigrants get fair legal treatment. During Barack Obama’s presidency (2009–2016), about 3.2 million people were formally deported, while Donald Trump’s current policies, as of 2025, face heavy criticism for similar due process concerns. This article examines the facts behind Obama’s deportation record, the lack of due process in many cases, and how Trump’s approach draws parallel backlash, staying neutral and balanced.

     
     
     

    Obama’s Deportation Record

     

    From 2009 to 2016, Obama’s administration deported around 3.2 million immigrants through formal removal orders, with a total of 5.24 million removals and voluntary returns. The focus was on criminals and recent border crossers, earning Obama the nickname “deporter-in-chief” from critics like the ACLU. In 2013 alone, 438,421 deportations occurred, per the Migration Policy Institute. Supporters said this targeted dangerous individuals, but critics argued it tore apart families and ignored immigrants’ rights.

     
     
     

    Due Process Under Obama

     
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    A major issue was the lack of due process. About 75–83% of deportations were nonjudicial, meaning they skipped immigration court. In 2012, roughly 313,000 of 419,000 deportations happened without a judge’s review, according to ACLU data. These “expedited removals” often left immigrants without lawyers or a chance to appeal. For example, many long-term U.S. residents were deported after minor offenses, with no opportunity to argue their case. Critics said this violated fairness, while defenders claimed it was efficient for border security.

     
     
     

    Trump’s Deportation Policies

     

    As of April 2025, Trump’s second term has ramped up deportation plans, aiming to remove millions, including criminals and undocumented immigrants. His 2017–2021 term saw about 1 million deportations, far fewer than Obama’s, but his current rhetoric promises a larger scale. ICE operations have expanded, targeting workplaces and communities, per recent web reports. Like Obama, Trump prioritizes criminals but also casts a wider net, raising fears of mass deportations.

     
     
     

    Due Process Concerns with Trump

     

    Trump’s policies face backlash for bypassing due process, much like Obama’s. Web sources, including NPR, note that expedited removals remain common, with many immigrants detained and deported without hearings. In 2019, 64% of deportations were nonjudicial, per the Migration Policy Institute. Critics argue Trump’s aggressive ICE raids and proposed “deportation camps” risk deporting people with U.S. ties without fair trials. Supporters say it’s necessary for law enforcement, but groups like the ACLU warn of human rights violations.

     
     
     

    Comparing the Backlash

     
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    Both presidents faced criticism for similar reasons. Obama’s high deportation numbers and reliance on nonjudicial removals drew protests from immigrant advocates, who said he betrayed progressive values. Trump’s plans spark outrage for their scale and perceived cruelty, with X posts in 2025 calling them “inhumane.” Yet both used expedited removals to streamline deportations, often at the cost of legal protections. Obama’s defenders argued he balanced enforcement with reforms like DACA, while Trump’s backers claim he’s restoring order. Critics of both say due process suffered.

     
     
     

    Conclusion

     
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    Obama’s 3.2 million deportations, with 75–83% lacking due process, set a precedent for efficient but controversial immigration enforcement. Trump’s ongoing policies, echoing this approach, face similar scrutiny for prioritizing speed over fairness. The debate remains heated: how should the U.S. balance security and justice? Understanding these facts helps clarify the challenges both administrations faced.

    Deportations and Due Process: Comparing Obama and Trump Policies

    I am not here to defend Obama or Democrats or Republicans.  How about defending humanity for a change instead of playing politics?

    "Yet both used expedited removals to streamline deportations, often at the cost of legal protections."

     

    The only reason you're so freaked out is that it's Orangemanbad doing the deportations now.

    Perhaps it's time you grow up and face reality.

  13. Anchor Babies and Lower Court Injunctions Dead In The Water.

    in Federal Politics in the United States

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    31 minutes ago, robosmith said:

    You're LYING AGAIN. NO DEMOCRAT begged for what Trump is doing. 

    And Trump LIED about what he would do numerous times.

    He said "knew nothing" about Project 2025 and then hired MOST of its authors to run amuck in the US government.

    Never said anything about firing 10s of thousands of government workers without severance, to enable a $4T tax cut.

    Always said SS, Medicare and Medicaid would not be touched and even LIED about the current bill which cuts them, just THIS WEEK.

    Just like YOU are LYING HERE. Or maybe you're just COMPLETELY IGNORANT about what is happening. 🤮

    Up yours Sally.

    Choke on it.

  14. Anchor Babies and Lower Court Injunctions Dead In The Water.

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    25 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

    Very simply.... He's president of the United States and has done jack sh*t to unify your country!  Quite the opposite in fact....every f*cking time he gets in front of a microphone he has to disparage Biden and all other people on the other side of the aisle for no good reason other than that's what he does.  Can go on about the lengthy list of other unflattering qualities he has but for christ sakes....whats up with this guy!

    And his personal financial benefit since becoming president this time around is not speculation, it's fact.  $5.1B today versus $2.3B when he came in.  Probably got nothing to with his joke of an online store, selling bibles, running shoes, funny looking hats, selling worthless meme coins to minions, pushing crypto hard so his DJT business can benefit, his paid wife selling boooooks and meme coins, etc, etc....

    You Maga's are the quite possibly the dumbest f*cks to walk this planet not being able to see him for what he's worth...

    Ok that's enough.

    Every fcking time Brandon and/or any Democrat spoke/speaks, they call over half the population names.

    You limp noodles get what you begged for...with fcking interest.

    Choke on it.

  15. Anchor Babies and Lower Court Injunctions Dead In The Water.

    in Federal Politics in the United States

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    22 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

    Lefties are going to whine, let's not act surprised :) 

    You are correct though, it does seem that the argument that they were making is pretty damn strong. And again it has nothing to do with the actual issue of birthright citizenship, they just said that the lower courts overstep their bounds shutting trump down on a national level instead of an individual by individual basis. And they gave numerous examples on numerous reasons and logic

    The lower court overstepped. This just corrected that. Really that's all this ruling is

    And so Trump's EO regarding anchor-babies will stand until this fall.

    Some states will follow that and others may not.

  16. Anchor Babies and Lower Court Injunctions Dead In The Water.

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    1 minute ago, LinkSoul60 said:

    You first probably want to check your math.  4+4=8  The SCOTUS has 9 justices....with a 6 -3 conservative majority.  Just sayin....

    Good to know you're happy with the political bias of your Supreme Court.  Fortunately, not my court....

    Oh but if you're a US resident and citizen, it is your court. Just as Donny is your President. You can gate that all you like but it is what it is.

    Now your President will deport as many illegals as they can catch, and in some states, there will no longer be "anchor-babies".

    The district judges just got the spanking they deserved.

    2 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

    My feelings....  I honestly don't give a sh*t.  I'm Canadian so the US's political biases and grifting is of little consequence to me.  

    Ah so you're Canadian. 

    Ok well...let's hope our borders get closed too.

  18. Anchor Babies and Lower Court Injunctions Dead In The Water.

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    59 minutes ago, User said:

    Well... this is a very technical ruling in Trumps favor... he won the battle against the absurd nationwide injunctions, but the question of if the 14th Amendment really does mean a pregnant illegal immigrant who climbs the border wall and then immediately gives birth to their child 1 foot on American soil while a border patrol agent is in the process of deporting them back but didn't quite make it to the border line now means that child is BOOM American citizen! 

     

    Not in all states. Only those who choose to allow such. Many states will simply deport.

    In the fall, we'll hear about a national law.

  25. Kilmar Armando Ábrego García - Will He Be Deported Again To Third Country?

    in Federal Politics in the United States

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    1 minute ago, robosmith said:

    Really lDIOT? With what third world gangs do YOU have "experience"? All of them? LMAO

    It's kinda easy to turn ANY kid into an "aggressive kid" by bullying them. Duh

    Treating anyone brutally will usually make them a BRUTE. It worked on you, only you're just an anonymous brute on the interwebz. 

    IF you can afford to move to So Cal (got at least a $million for a average house?), maybe we'll find out how big a man you really are. And you'll find out I am really 6'6" 240lbs.

    Lol...thilly boy...

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