Winston

So you don't know, that's okay, most people don't know including myself.

It totally depends upon the end goal? That is why I asked what is the end goal of the program.

So the program plans to keep COVID around forever? There is no goal for pre covid life? "The steps are vaccines and restrictions to slow down infection rates so the system can continue function." Well it does not do that. https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/epidemiological-summary-covid-19-cases.html Cases and hospitalizations rates are the highest they have ever been, the program is failing.

What is the program? What are the steps towards the end of the program and what is that goal?

Sorry I thought the point was "They have to pay higher tax to cover the extra cost on Health Care." hence why I stated the cost through the age groups. Also new data came out for Ontario, 46-47% of hospitalizations are not due to COVID nor are 17-20% of ICU patients. Would the rules still apply to those that are not in the hospital due to covid? https://data.ontario.ca/dataset/breakdown-of-covid-19-positive-hospital-admissions/resource/d1199d1b-dc82-4e63-bb80-5c715e97a127

It would be more logical to apply this to the 50-80 age group as they represent 68.3% of ICU patients and 50 -80+ represent 75.8% of hospitalizations. If the problem is cost on health care, these are the people. https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/epidemiological-summary-covid-19-cases.html (not in favor)

This is why we must enforce 100% vaccination. Because how else do the people responsible keep their positions, how else can politicians, medical advisors, doctors and health officers recover. They must be unquestionably right, because being wrong means termination of their position, social status and private gains.

How is it verified? Ie what prevents someone from making a supernatural event up? You just accept on faith that it's real? God told me that homosexuality is good and that the bible was altered to say it was bad. There is an example of a supernatural event. I expect answers that are logical and obey the laws of the universe. I also expect non circular reasoning. The reason we are delving into the bible is because you have no scientific evidence of God. It is either Jesus or Immanuel, but the prophecy can not claim both. If the prophecy claimed Immanuel, but the name of the individual is Jesus, the prophecy fails. Maybe this is the fundamental issue. For a prophecy to be given evidential weight, specifics must be known and accurate, not assumed or presumed. Date, time, place, who, what, where and when. Very specific and accurate. For example if I prophesied “ there will be a stock Based in the USA that doubles in value, that it will be a technology stock with a great number of sales but few employees” I will be right, not because I know the future, but because it's too generic and not exact. Fundamentally what prevents someone in power from requesting an alteration to the text? It would be quite easy as you mentioned, a supernatural event occurs to the person in power, where they claim superiority over the text right from god. Everyone has faith, thus everyone must believe, thus the text is changed in interpretation. No this is circular, you need something outside the bible to verify such events occurred, I am not going to take biblical references to prove the bible has accurate historical biblical references. For example, in this book chapter 1 it states “ I will fly to the moon during a full moon and then I will come back to earth” when you ask who can verify this, I say “ my friend wrote about it here in chapter 6, see that is the proof”, but you have no ability to interview him or figure out if what he wrote was altered or that he even wrote it. By the same logic, you must believe I flew to the moon and came back because both were written in the same book.

Since no biological explanation is possible, how does one verify a supernatural event occurred? What supernatural evidence is required? We can have a discussion but citing articles is just going to be a discussion by links, not worth anyone's time. If you want to point to a specific part in the article or summarize the article as supporting discussion point that would be appreciated. With regards to the article, a prophesy can not change over time, otherwise it would not be a prophesy. For example Jesus can not be Immanuel because it would be inaccurate and unreliable as a prophesy of Jesus. I do question the legitimacy of text especially when text can be altered with no mention over time by a dominant party. For example only those that win a war write history.

How are you so sure without external physical references? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-fulfilling_prophecy Absolutely it is strong evidence that what they believed was true to them, but no evidence that what they believed was actually true, moral or right. For example many Germans in 1940s believed in national socialism, they even were tortured and died brutal deaths for their beliefs. It does not make their beliefs true. Furthermore other religions believe in different Gods, are tortured and died brutal deaths under other religious ideologies, it still does not make them true. There are a few issues with this, explain how a virgin is impregnated biologically? Explain how they verified that this individual (Mary) was a virgin, after this whole event occurred? Explain who this Immanuel person is, because as soon as you mention its Jesus the prophecy is highly inaccurate just based on the name alone. For a prophecy to be given evidential weight specifics must be known and accurate, not assumed or presumed. Date, time, place, who, what, where and when. Very specific.

You just used the bible to prove the bible, that is circular. Its like if i wrote a book saying, " Mike would buy a goat for 30 silver coins" then someone added to my book 30 years later " Mike did buy a goat for 30 silver coins". If someone read it and the assume it was prophesy they would be incorrect, it is not prophetic because it is from the same source and it is not exact. In order to prove the bible you would need something outside the bible.

These are not specific prophecies, also they are biblically referenced. This is circular as I mentioned above, not evidence. Give me an example in the bible that is verified outside of the bible, a specific prophecy.

Can you give an example? Specific prophecies.

The site indicates that Prophetic Accuracy is a reason, but its a prophecy within the bible. Do the academics of the site not understand the circular logic, the bible predicted the bible events. This is not impressive or evidence of authenticity. If the bible predicted with specificity an event going to happen in the future, like first working silicon transistor was developed at Bell Labs on January 26, 1954, by Morris Tanenbaum, that would be a prophecy and impressive.

Sorry old math habits, " does not exist"

From my understanding effectiveness of the original vaccine against Omicron is quite low, do you have the latest research cite?

Great, by definition of faith, I am God. "it answered your questions or comments better than I ever could" - It states that I am God, by my friends faith, thanks.

1 Definition of what exactly? 2 No, we as a collective determine the ethical or moral rules we play by. From these agreed upon rules we form a government that implements these ethical rules into laws ect. Although the laws are not about ethics themselves they support actions against those that break those ethical rules. 3"Therefore according to that reasoning, abortion or killing of unborn babies is moral."- Overall depending upon the situation it is moral or ethical indeed, both to the baby and the mother. For example teen pregnancy may lead to a more problematic life for the mother, father and the child. Fundamentally if the unborn is directly dependent upon the mother, it is up to the mother (potentially the father) to determine her own risks and choices. However the alternative is forced pregnancy and parenthood, potentially worse for the child. Similarly, we lock people up for life, fundamentally restricting their freedom, basically killing a majority of their life experience for ethical/moral reasons.

What is your definition of faith ? My friends have faith that I am God, does that mean I am God? And since I am God I choose not to operate by showing any scientific proof that I am God. If you would like to save time, Bible quotes are unnecessary, they have near 0 value in the conversation.

Your right there is no such thing as objective, true morality. DNE. Hence why that idea that objective morality exists, ie God, first premise fails, ie not an argument. Atheism does not = humanism, Atheism is "is an absence of belief in the existence of deities." Humanism is "a progressive philosophy of life that, without theism or other supernatural beliefs, affirms our ability and responsibility to lead ethical lives of personal fulfillment that aspire to the greater good", they are not interchangeable, please look up definitions. You assume right and wrong must be made by supernatural or theistic ideas, fundamentally this is wrong. Humans can understand subjective morality, ethics, based on desirable outcomes, for the individual or the collective. There is group accountability, biological accountability, sustainable accountability and individual accountability (may be more). Yes one can do whatever they want, does not make it socially moral or ethical.

You can' just say look at everything it was created, by this God, you have to prove creation, hence why I asked explain exactly how God makes an electron or an atom or a molecule.

It can be dismissed, but claimed as DNE does not exist would be incorrect, the problematic issue of proving a negative. Anyway we are on the same page.

1 After doing some research I realized the question I asked is not precise enough. I am looking for radiative forcing or energy transfer based on CO2 concentrations in the atmosphere. An increase of say 100ppm of CO2 causes an increase in radiative forcing by what value? Co2 absorbs energy and reemits the energy isotopically, how much energy is absorbed and emitted? ( These values are quite difficult to find online, hence why I ask) 2. I do know there is a net feedback effect, dependent upon water vapor. However, I question if the models take into account reflection of energy back into space from the increased water vapor. 3 Thanks, he has quite a few videos, I do like the detail he provides.

How do you know there is no God?

I think you forgot that this conversation already occurred, where you could not provide evidence of a God, "Those are the only two sexes he created and told them to go forth and multiply in the earth. Other man-made inventions of sexuality cannot multiply and were not part of his plan. They developed out of a corrupt human nature after the fall of man. But he still cares about everyone and wishes they would turn to him in faith. Without God there is nothing and no meaning." - Interesting, but God just told me that he thinks LGBT people should be respected and cared for just like other humans. God also told me that he changed his plan, that "homosexuality is right and so is LGBT, let those who follow God be free"