Aristides

Worldwide Covid deaths just topped five million. It is the third largest cause of death after heart disease and stroke. And it is highly CONTAGIOUS.

Heart disease isn't highly contagious. I can't count how many times that has been said.

Vaccines do not confer 100% immunity. Efficacy varies with the vaccine and number of shots for all of them.

Not the same thing but I get your point about NB. I don't know how they made that stick. Essential air travel wasn't a rule, there was no one vetting travellers and arbitrarily deciding whether their trip was essential.

So you do think you are immortal and will never need the health care system. And you accuse me of being irrational.?

You think you are immortal. No one is. Sooner or later you will be depending on these people for your life. Unless of course you die a violent death or just drop dead of something like a heart attack or stroke.

You don't care much about anything.

That was a low ball estimate to airlift someone 800 KM on a special equipped aircraft with a ICU doctor and nurse in attendance. But it could be 100K and you would care anyway.

Anyone who doesn't think this is costing the system big time is an ignorant dolt. Scores of Covid patients have been air lifted from Northern Health to the lower mainland and Vancouver Island. Saskatchewan is airlifting Covid patients to Ontario That alone probably costs at least 20K per patient. And then they have to get them home if they recover. Bully for you, so do I but I'm not stupid enough to think that makes me immune to a brand new virus. We have professional athletes who are long haulers. So why haven't they applied for approval?

No I don't, they are just paying existing people time and a half and double time for overtime and working them into the ground. You complain about the system while you do your best to overload it. Nice. Like I said. You don't give a shit about others who need the system Not for Covid.

For what? If you bother to read the article you will see that the side effects vary according to what is being treated. No side effects for Covid are given because they haven't been properly documented.

Side effects of Medical Ivermectin

You don't seem to understand medicine. ICU requires specially qualified people that just don't drop out of trees. If you have to move people from non ICU to ICU, you will not only lose them from the system while they retrain, you will be robbing other parts of the system of personnel. The equipment required for ICU stations is very expensive and also an added cost for every bed added. Our health care system is under pressure in normal times, but you just blow off dealing with a pandemic as no biggie. Not if they refuse to get vaccinated. What drug? You go on about the possible harm done by vaccines but aren't interested in the consequences of using your pet remedies that haven't been through any kind of approval process for Covid use.

They are $50K according to the BC health minister. I also posted a study done in 2006 regarding ICU costs at Japanese university hospitals which "realistic" put it at $1539 USD a day or $46170 USD per month, 15 years ago. What do you mean my only argument is hospitals being filled up with the unvaccinated. It's the only issue, I no longer care about the fate of the willfully unvaccinated other than they become everyone else's problem when they get sick. I also find your assertion that the medical community is deliberately ignoring treatments because of some giant conspiracy to be nothing but tin hat social media nonsense.

You reduce severity by getting vaccinated. That has been shown over and over again. I just shake my head at people who would rather gamble on treating severe symptoms over not getting them at all.

So you don't care about all the non covid ICU cases and other treatments or surgeries that can't be accommodated because of Covid hospitalizations. Many ICU stations have been added to accommodate Covid patients but you just can't conjure up the highly trained people needed to staff them. How much overtime do you think is being paid to accommodate treating Covid patients? You don't think those cost the system and people who need those facilities? A thing that strikes me most about the willfully non vaccinated is their absolute lack of concern for anyone or anything else.

There is a right to mobility within the country but there have always been conditions attached to travel on public systems.

ICU's stays for Covid average $50,000 each. You can vaccinate 2500 people for the cost of one ICU stay.

Sure treatments are required but. Latest numbers for BC. Hospitalizations per 110K/week Unvaccinated 28.5 Partially vaccinated 6.3 Fully vaccinated 1.3 28.5 from 15% of the population 1.3 from 85% of the population

No they wouldn't. Vaccines and treatments are two different things, vaccines are intended to make treatments unnecessary.

Why pay $20 for a vaccine when you can pay $2000 for monoclonal antibodies after you get sick and bitch about the health care system.

Merck has applied for emergency approval of its pill. You are quite selective in your belief in emergency approvals. I'll stick to the vaccine and not need any of your alternate medicine.

I've been told that just posting links with no commentary is not allowed here.

Despirate people do stupid things. They f**** up by not getting vaccinated and now they are looking for miracle cures for their own stupidity.

Yes they did, they went trough three stages of trials and the complete approval process.