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Listen to this non-sensical drivel it sounds like the rantings of a crazy person: According to one decades-old unverified claim from some random guy, Saul Alinsky got a few students to dress up in Klan costumes at some obscure event and that one tiny stunt permanently fooled all of Americans into falsely thinking the Klan supports Republicans which they actually do but only because the Klan and neo nazis love America and they know what’s best for it. Riiight that makes perfect sense Makes you long fo the days where at least the conservative lies tried to follow some kind of coherent narrative So the Democrats want to tear down confederate statues and the confederate flag because they’re pro-slavery and pro-segregation. Meanwhile Republicans and Trump especially want to protect and restore them because they’re anti-slavery and anti-segregation Trump tweets out lies like blacks are responsible for almost all murdersof white peoples but the real White supremacists are Ilhan omar, AOC, Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton The Democrats are white supremacists but want unlimited third world immigration, affirmative action and white genocide. Also minor fact check: The KKK was never “a wing of the Democratic party.“

Another debunked conservative conspiracy theory 1) So? Whats YOUR point? 2)It should have been to the cops that there’s something wrong. 1) Prove that bullshit 2) So you admit KKK supports Trump anyway. But didn’t you just say KKK is Democrats? Also KKK wizard David Duke ran for office as a Republican decades ago and is also currently a Trump supporter. “Sure” is not a denouncement. Thats One word. That’s why they responded to it bu asking him to go ahead and say it then. He couldn’t bring himself to say anything bad about white supremacists at the very least because he wants their votes. Everything in you above quote is simply a lie. Full stop. Also Republicans like to claim dem CITIES have higher crime because most large cities are run by Democrats. When you look at state data though most of the highest crime states are Republican. https://www.statista.com/statistics/200445/reported-violent-crime-rate-in-the-us-states/

It’s total cherry-picking. Telling us about the number of federal senators elected but not congressmen, or state officials for example? Here’s an excerpt from a detailed description, pay attention to the bold part at the very end .....The idea of swinging the South to the Republicans was not Phillips’s invention, as he readily admitted. White southerners had been drifting away from their traditional party ties for decades. In the late 1930s, southern Democrats in Congress had forged a “conservative coalition” with like-minded Republicans to fight New Deal liberalism. Despite this working alliance, southern Democratic congressmen remained in the party—not least because Democrats dominated Congress and, as a result, their seniority within the party guaranteed them a good deal of power in the committee system. But the “Dixiecrat” rebellion of 1948, led by South Carolina Governor Strom Thurmond, showed that party ties weren’t permanent*. In that campaign, southern officials and ordinary white southerners alike began to abandon the Democrats over civil rights. Republican leaders saw an opening. Guy Gabrielson, the chairman of the Republican National Committee from 1949 to 1952, hoped to bring disaffected Dixiecrats into the GOP. “The Dixiecrat Party believes in states’ rights,” he told an Alabama gathering in 1952. “That’s what the Republican Party believes in.” Seeking to craft a coalition of southern Democrats and northeastern Republicans, Gabrielson commenced negotiations for what he called a “trial marriage at the top” in which nominally independent Dixiecrats would pledge to support the Republican nominee in 1952. Gabrielson’s scheme never came to fruition, but the GOP nominee still cracked the solid South: Dwight Eisenhower won three southern or border states in 1952 (Florida, Tennessee, and Virginia) and five in 1956 (Florida, Tennessee, Louisiana, Kentucky, and Virginia). As he prepared for his own run for president, Arizona Senator Barry Goldwater likewise tried to bring white southern conservatives into the Republican fold. But rather than proposing a partnership between the South and the Northeast, Goldwater wanted to connect southern Democrats with libertarians and conservatives in the Southwest and West. In a 1961 speech to southern Republicans in Atlanta, Goldwater famously declared that the GOP should “hunt where the ducks are” by writing off “the Negro vote” and pursuing southern whites instead. Capitalizing on the white southern backlash against civil rights was central to this strategy. But by the mid-1960s, overt racism was an ineffective method of courting southern voters. The region’s most successful politicians adopted more muted appeals to racial issues, and Goldwater proved to be a skilled practitioner of this approach. Instead of “direct racist appeals,” he used “a kind of code that few in his audiences had any trouble deciphering,” noted The New Yorker in 1964. In making federal involvement in social, cultural, and economic issues the ostensible focus of his opposition, rather than race itself, Goldwater managed to reassure the South that he would protect the status quo while simultaneously appealing to the libertarian sensibilities of the West and Southwest. “I believe that it is both wise and just for Negro children to attend the same schools as whites,” Goldwater wrote in The Conscience of a Conservative. “I am not prepared, however, to impose that judgment of mine on the people of Mississippi or South Carolina … Social and cultural change, however desirable, should not be effected by the engines of national power.” Goldwater lost the 1964 election in a national landslide to Lyndon Johnson, but the election returns showed a silver lining for the GOP. Aside from his home state of Arizona, the only states Goldwater won were in the Deep South—Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, South Carolina, and Louisiana. While Eisenhower had made inroads in the South by adding states from the region’s edges to his national coalition, Goldwater focused on the “ducks” of the Deep South, and with convincing results. Mississippi’s path was instructive: While GOP nominees had won less than 25 percent of the state’s vote in 1956 and 1960, Goldwater took a whopping 87 percent in 1964. Moreover, his southern coattails helped elect a new generation of Republican congressmen, whose vocal opposition to civil rights had been the centerpiece of their own campaigns. (In an extreme example, Prentiss Walker, the first Republican congressman from Mississippi in a century, celebrated his 1964 victory with an appearance before a Ku Klux Klan front called Americans for the Preservation of the White Race.).... https://www.google.ca/amp/s/amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/595504/ And here is a campaign strategy memo from the Nixon library Note the strategy re “Negroes” https://cdn.nixonlibrary.org/01/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/02130151/White-House-Special-Files-Box-36-Folder-7.pdf

PragerU rightwing garbage rots your brain

5 years from now it will be and you conveniently won’t be able to remember denying it. The conservatives have used their selective memory before. Just like how the conservatives SWORE Saddam had WMD that could hit America in 45 minutes and screamed that the dems were traitors putting us all in danger for not supporting their invasion.... now all they remember Ilianthe invasion being bipartisan and don’t recall any controversy at all

Point is he was a dixecrat segregationist who became Republican because that’s where they all went back then when the Democrats decided to renounce segregation and support civil rights.

Just like the moon landing right? That’s the level of denial required to believe your nonsense

Oh another false flag reverse psychology crackpot conspiracy theory. They endorsed Trump because they wanted Hillary to win. Got it!? I don’t know, Bush’s invasion of Iraq is exactly what the terrorists wanted. They got to eliminate their secular enemy Saddam Hussein, fight the infidels in their own Muslim land, humiliate the US military for years on end. Terrorists can get in to the US no matter who is in charge, what they want is a military adventurist who will give them their holy wars overseas. To his credit, Trump is unusual - almost unique - among Republicans in that so far he doesn’t really seem interested in fighting foreign wars. He knelt on the guys neck for 7 minutes while bystanders screamed that he's unconscious. The cop is still charged with murder. Your Non-expert crackpot interpretation that’s been verified by absolutely nobody isn’t “proof” of anything So when we see KKK and Neo Nazis at unite the right rallies and supporting Trump and it means they’re Democrats. Riiiight. Because “Saul Alinsky”. He “did something”. Friggin ridiculous It is not a fact that Blacks fare worse in Dem cities. And you don’t understand what defeund the police means but that’s a whole separate topic on its own. No you’re not paying attention. How many times do I have to say this. After the civil rights act the Democrats began to come around to it lead mostly by the northern wing of the party which was not overwhelmingly racist. Then the racist southern Democrats began to leave the party and then the republicans scooped them up starting with Goldwater. Why do you think the south is majority republican today? Republican Strom Thurmond is a perfect example. That’s a complete lie and false transcript Where did you get it? Some crackpot email list? Nobody coached him to say “stand down” and that’s not even what he said. They asked him to denounce the group and after trying to redirect and deflect all he could come up with was “stand back and stand by” Hardly a denouncement (SOUNDBITE OF ARCHIVED RECORDING) PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: I would say almost everything I see is from the left wing, not from the right wing. CHRIS WALLACE: So what are you... TRUMP: If you look... WALLACE: What are you saying... TRUMP: I'm willing to do anything - I want to see peace. WALLACE: Well, then do it, sir. JOE BIDEN: Say it. Do it. Say it. TRUMP: Do you want to call them - what do you want to call them? Give me a name. Give me a name. Go ahead... WALLACE: White supremacists and right-wing militia. (CROSSTALK) TRUMP: Who would you like me to condemn? BIDEN: The Proud Boys. TRUMP: Who? BIDEN: The Proud Boys. TRUMP: The Proud Boys, stand back, and stand by. But I'll tell you what. I'll tell you what - somebody's got to do something about antifa and the left because this is not a right-wing problem.

Uh no read the part where it says he changed parties because he DIDN’T have a change of heart. I added it to my post

I guess you didn’t read your own link about Thurmond did you? It’s what I’ve been saying tue whole time Is this forum for people who never tool high school history or something? It says: Thurmond represented South Carolina in the United States Senate from 1954 until 2003, at first as a Southern Democrat and then, from 1964 onwards, as a Republican. ... A magnet for controversy during his nearly half-century Senate career, Thurmond switched parties in 1964, primarily because of his vehement opposition to the Civil Rights Act of 1964, and endorsed Republican presidential candidate Barry Goldwater. In the months before switching, he had "been critical of the Democratic Administration for ... enactment of the Civil Rights Law",[2] while Goldwater "boasted of his opposition to the Civil Rights Act, and made it part of his platform."[3]

You are being racially divisive by advancing a racially divisive and false message. You're actually fear-mongering against police. That's a fact. FYI police are not committing genocide against blacks, they're not even in the top 20 killers of black people. Black people, even criminals who are black, are completely safe when they're being arrested if they're just polite. Sharks and murderers are still dangerous if you're polite with them. Police are not. Therefor, police are not dangerous. It's just your own stupidity that gets you killed. Eg, if Brionna's boyfriend hadn't shot at cops she'd still be alive. If Rayshard hadn't shot a taser at a cop's head, he'd still be alive. If Michael Brown hadn't tried to wrestle a cop's gun away from him, he'd still be alive. If you're not like those idiots, you've got no more to worry about than a white person who gets arrested. Police abuse or misuse their power all the time, against white people too. Blacks and POC just end up on the receiving end more often. This is true in Canada but especially the US. Your whole argument is that the victims of police brutality like Trayvonn and Brionna are to blame because they didn’t properly debase and subjugate themselves to overzealous police even though they did nothing wrong to attract the police in the first place. Republicans supposedly believe in all this stand your ground castle doctrine principles, support all these armed standoffs like Ruby Ridge Wacco and the Bundys where white people are actually breaking the law and taking up arms against authorities but not apparently for innocent law abiding people of certain complexions who are minding their own business are targeted for one reason or another. Let alone those like Flloyd who were committing some minor offence and were killed. Cite required? Really you missed that one? https://www.google.ca/amp/s/thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/303903-kkk-newspaper-embraces-trump-in-front-page-article%3famp Th KKK Newspaper :

So republicans are opposed to the confederate and democrats promote it, is that opposite-from-reality world you live in?

And which party is more opposed to it?

So much of the typical Fiddle garbage there’s not enough time to go through it all. The southern strategy is not some theory or anything that was a “revealed” as as a se cret it was out in the open. Like Republicans would fo on Tv and say “our southern strategy is working well” Are you also unaware that the South is Republican???

It’s funny that you say that because stoking fear of Black criminals is standard fare for “tough on crime” republicans. I could give you hundreds of examples of Republicans doing that on any given day. What about Trump’s full page add calling for the Central Park 5 to be executed which he still refuses to take back even though they were exonerated by DNA and the real perp was identified? What about Trump tweeting pictures of black people punching white people and calling for justice? What about Trumps 2015 false tweet that Blacks are responsible for 81% of all murdered white people? What about Trumps current race-baiting about “low income housing” destroying suburbs? What about Willie Horton and all the disenfranchisement activities currently going on to discourage black voters? Go ahead and call out Hillary for the superpredators comment she deserves it. Americans loved it which is proof of America’s race problems. It’s also proof she’s just another wolf-in-sheep’s clothing centrist not a true liberal which is part of the reason she didn’t win an election in what should have been an easy victory. But to cherry pick that and ignore the similar statements Republicans make daily for 40 years and continue to make is a joke. That was a long time ago. Republicans are the party of the south now and have been for half a century or so. Or dis you not even know that? Pretty pathetic to bring up the 1800s as proof while ignoring the current century

In American politics, the Southern strategywas a Republican Party electoral strategy to increase political support among white voters in the South by appealing to racism against African Americans.[1][2][3] As the civil rights movement and dismantling of Jim Crow laws in the 1950s and 1960s visibly deepened existing racial tensions in much of the Southern United States, Republican politicians such as presidential candidate Richard Nixon and Senator Barry Goldwater developed strategies that successfully contributed to the political realignment of many white, conservative voters in the South who had traditionally supported the Democratic Party rather than the Republican Party. It also helped to push the Republican Party much more to the right.[4] ...The perception that the Republican Party had served as the "vehicle of white supremacy in the South", particularly during the Goldwater campaign and the presidential elections of 1968 and 1972, made it difficult for the Republican Party to win back the support of black voters in the South in later years.[4] In 2005, Republican National Committeechairman Ken Mehlman formally apologized to the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP) for exploiting racial polarization to win elections and ignoring the black vote.[13][14] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy And as soon as Republicans got the Supreme Court to remove Voting Righs Act restrictions in the South in 2013, the Southern states immediately submitted disenfranchisement legislation that they had already drafted in anticipation, to try and suppress the black vote again.

I said the ones who wanted to remain racist switched to Republican.

.....A Democrat who’s been dead for ten years and spent the last 60 years of his life denouncing the Klan!!

Huh?? Nobody said he became Republican get your eyes checked. I said he spent a lifetime denouncing the klan after his brief membership in the 1940s That’s why he stayed Democrat. Those who remained segregationist and refused to renounce their racist past left the Dems and converted to Republican n the 60s and 70s.

Manufacturing is in permanent decline, even pre-COVID and Trumps tariffs trade wars have only made raw materials more expensive Manufacturing job gains have actually been limited to specific niches https://www.google.ca/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/02/08/economy/manufacturing-jobs/index.html https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/09/05/trump-said-hed-rebuild-manufacturing-now-its-decline-what-happened/%3foutputType=amp What a bunch of nonsense. These are not trade or defence spending grievances and the US is as protectionist as anyone else out there. Theyae are overtly hostile actiona meant to politically and economically damage the EU and member states solely foe the purpose of damaging them. Not to recrify some perceived policy disagreements. Trump and his camp are overtly anti EU and pro Russia, its that simple

Omg not another Robert Byrd KKK line! That has got to be one of the most tired internet memes of all time You clearly know nothing about the man. Just that one little tidbit that circulates the Internet. Let me guess all you know about this man is that you heard that at some vague one-liner he was kkk right? Nothing else ? Right? He was born in 1917 He was a member of the Klan for a couple of years in the mid 1940s when he was in his 20s Then he dropped out and has been publicly denouncing them since at least 1952 At the time if his description the NAACP issued a statement that dedoiyhis brief Klan past but stated that he became “champion of civil rights” Also He’s been dead for ten years but that doesn’t stop republicans on the internet from saying “but but Robert Byrd!” Compare that with current KKK member and Republican David Duke, who openly endorsed Trump

The rooster who takes credit for the sun rising. The economy was growing steadily for years before Trump took office. One of the funniest things I read was Trumps tweet taking credit for 11 years of uninterrupted growth. But then it doesn’t seem like he’d be one who’s good at math. Do you give Trudeau credit for when he had one of the lowest unemployment rates also? No? Tell me more! Let me guess: “That’s different ...uh ...um ...ack...gulp”. He didn’t just call them out for weak defence spending he actively attacks their domestic policies and tries to undermine their political and economic influence while encouraging Russian political aggression in Europe

You're saying racially divisive things. Call yourself what you want. IDGAF. Sure, there was racial tension. But nothing like "The biggest danger that I face when I walk the streets of Chicago is racist white cops". People who say things like that are fear-mongering and racially divisive. That is the most idiotic argument Ive heard Mentioning America’s very apparent race relation problems is being “racially divisive” which is the same as being racist Just don’t talk about it and it will go away Trump says racially divisive things habitually oh an uh... DUDE TRUMP WAS OFFICIALLY ENDORSED BY THE KKK. Your subscription to crackpot conspiracy theories make you a conspiracy theorist. It’s got nothing to do with me. WOW I knew you were a crackpot but that is just crazy man All those Klansmen and neonazis praising Trump are plants by Saul Alinsky. He also stole the Klans newspaper press and printed out their official Trump endorsement too huh?. Do you believe the murdered Sandy Hook kids were also actors? That’s true back when southern social conservatives voted Democrat because it was the party of the rural and poor and the Republicans were the party of east coast Moneyed elites. But then after the DNC endorsed the civil rights movement those conservatives and segregationists all defected to the Republican Party and were welcomed with open arms Says who? Omg how sheltered are you? This has been an ongoing issue since his initial candidacy. He refused to condemn them during the debates. He refused to decline their endorsement in his first election. Whenever asked directly he mutters half-hearted condemnations of “both sides”, or Non-denouncements like “Proud Boys Stand down, stand by”. The man who can rant for hours about immigrants and antifa is suddenly a man of few words when asked to condemn white supremacy. When those responses proved controversial he’s issued statements through spokespeople. Most recently he tried to cover up his “Proud Boys stand by” gaffe by reading a highly scripted denouncement that was clearly written by someone else. Just like the highly scripted denouncement of Russia after the shocking felatio he gave Putin in Helsinki

This is not a duel between my crackpots and your crackpots. It’s your crackpots vs the actual real world. I don’t have any crackpots that’s the difference. I don’t rely on on some unknown unrecognized self-proclaimed “expert” internet kook for my information, it’s that simple. And when said kooks come out of the woodwork to challenge mainstream opinion and eatablished expert opinions with their wild conspiracy theories, they don’t need deep analysis to be dismissed. They haven’t earned my time

Tell that to Colin Kaepernick. Conservatives have their own censorship and try to force their own brand of political correctness down other people’s throats. Starbucks coffee cups not Christian enough? Gillette commercials not macho enough? Every US politician has to pose in front of a church with their families as props and swear to how religious they are because it’s political suicide in the US to say you’re an atheist or even that you’re just not interested in religion. Even though most people aren’t that into religion everybody expects leaders to pretend Gimme a break. Trump has not benefited most Americans he’s an unstable moron his administration is incompetent he’s like a reverse King Midas everything he touches turns to shit. He’s alienated and weakened Americas alies while emboldening its enemies. His toxic politics and conspiracy theories have left the country more divided than any time since the civil war and his attacks on the free press and the Democratic process are biggest threat to democracy that America has faced since the 1960s