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Thank you. And that is only because none of what you posted, changes the facts. None of it changes the truth that The Dems filed false docx with the FISA Court to get Mueller investigation launched ---and you refused to complain about filing of false docx. Plus when it comes to how The Dems impeached Trump for him exactly obeying the USA's nearly 20yr-old foreign policy in Ukraine that specifically focused on poli-corporate corruption just like the kind that the Biden family indulged from 2014-'16 in Ukraine ---you did stay silent and hush hush about Biden family corruption plus you you play pretend that impeachment grounds within Article II forbid a President from exposing corrupt political opponents.

You are deflecting again. No US Judicial system is needed here, for you to provide proof that in late-Dec/early-Jan the House (Dem) Intel Committee was pressing Trump about his failure to respond to CIA report from China on COVID 19. They were too busy to do it bc they were saving face from getting destroyed in their impeachment hoax that occupied the nation, but you'll continue to fleece that fact about real time.

"Lies. Oh, delightful lies!" is, I understand, the motto of the Deceitful Demonic Dems. The Dems filed false docx with the FISA Court to get Mueller investigation launched ---did you complain about filing false docx? The Dems impeached Trump for him exactly obeying the USA's nearly 20yr-old foreign policy in Ukraine that specifically focused on poli-corporate corruption just like the kind that the Biden family indulged from 2014-'16 in Ukraine ---did you stay silent and hush hush about Biden family corruption? Did you play pretend that articles of impeachment in Article II forbid a President from exposing political opponents who are being corrupt?? The Dems hate the USA which their ancestors left them ---so they are determined to give it away to lightskinned foreigners, and you clearly enjoy their effort.

I agree. And since it did none of that, then once again, you have imploded your own argument.

I figured it went, unsaid, in light of what an Intel committee always does.

Niiice.

And they can make sure Pelosi does not say "Come to Chinatown!" In opposition to actions that President Trump took. Like some member here alluded to, the House of Reps has an Intel committee which CIA would have sent this same (COVID 19) report to in late December. That committee did nothing. No they didn't dispute Trump's 'do nothing attitude' nor did they call him names like you are doi---oh, wait! that's right!! The Dems couldn't dispute Trump's do nothing approach, because they were too busy ---occupying the nation with an impeachment hoax, on the day the CIA reported the COVID 19 crisis to their committee and to Trump! lol You seem to have no problem with that.

True, indeed. although you did conveniently leave out the Democrats in the House. Why? ... They have an Intel committee/would have got the cia report right around the time Trump got it.

Remember too, for many weeks now the Dem's media outlets have screamed that President Trump disregarded USA Intelligence Agencies in late-Dec/early-Jan when they reported the CoronaVirus to him. So how did the "western intelligence Agencies fail" if the USA CIA reported the disease to Trump, as late as the first week of January?

You probably could have decided on the correct slogan, first, before you created this thread. Because you can't have it both ways. You say western intelligence agencies on one hand, but then you only focus on the USA intelligence to blame here as if "western" only encompasses the USA but not Canada Mexico South America etc. ... Plus the Dems' complaint has been that President Trump ignored and downplayed USA Intelligence Agencies reporting the COVID 19 in late-Dec/early-Jan, whereas your thread here claims that intelligence agencies failed altogether. Which one is it?

This is unfair. As it impresses that you feel I have some sort of control over your, refusal, to believe what is a factual truth. You can't fairly post insults at, me, all because you do not like that some statement is true where you hoped it would be false. I support the info at both links because I watched the South Carolina rally myself, that day, so I heard him with my own ears when he deemed the hoax as the politicization of the fight against CoronaVirus. ... Maybe you should go review/rewatch the speech when Trump made the "hoax" comment? Then you'll see it for, yourself, that he was referring only to the politicizing of the fight against COVID 19.

I've always treated you cordially here on this website so I'm, lost, about what caused you to start namecalling me or falsely accusing me here ... but I must caution you, that you will really hate it if I start to join in on immaturity of sending insulting posts. I posted a link from "checkYOURfacts" then you posted a link from "Snopes" by which both links analyzed his exact words then both links said President Trump never called the CoronaVirus a hoax. The truth is the truth, sooo you might need to consult Satan if you want a way to get people to stop believing the truth ---so they can instead, believe a lie that Trump called the disease itself a hoax.

Did you have any links any evidence any proofs, that this is viable? Or, is this just a propagandized question? Because I do not find any evidence, to blame the coronavirus spread on the western intelligence services. ... If no one has any proof/any evidence that western intelligence agencies did, fail, then why is this topic even created?

This is a very unfair, devilish statement. I really do hope that you plan to be fair/provide evidence of your claim here. Or, at least define what context is meant by "much" so we can see which other countries do the same thing then.

lol @ how going by the facts/the truth is somehow, being stupid? No matter how much you dislike President Trump, it is unBecoming of you to promote dishonest statements about him. It makes you look as bad as the person who told the lie on him to begin with.

Yes, I agree. This is a beautiful quote from your link you provided: "Despite creating some confusion with his remarks, Trump did not call the coronavirus itself a hoax." ... And if it's true that you don't care, one bit, then what caused you to come challenging me about a true, factual statement I provided here?

Did you read the info, at your link? Here's a quote from your link: "Despite creating some confusion with his remarks, Trump did not call the coronavirus itself a hoax." Since that is the same thing which my link says, then it is a fact that Trump never called the CoronaVirus a "hoax" when he was referring to the 'politicizing' of the USA's fight against CoronaVirus.

lol @ massive amt ... still thanks for the heads up tho/starting respectful discussions to exchange beautiful ideas is somehow a, mistake. Drop me a PM and expound on what you mean here ---that's if you don't already have unfair preconceived notions toward me, like a few others here have shown.

And? What it has to do with western intelligence agencies, is that the thread's OP gave an impression that western intelligence agencies failures' are somehow motivated by words within a false statement he made about President Trump here. Which then opens up possibilities that he also used false statements to conclude there were western intelligence failures. True? And if you have no problem with false statements, then you are as big of a burden as intelligence failures are.

This is pretty sad and pathetic to read, that you feel like you have to post trifling insults at peaceful people who post respectfully to you. Although you are sent here by, Satan, and I am glad to read that members love you. Here, check out more truths that help clear up your blurry vision: ... https://www.christianity.com/wiki/god/does-god-punish-us-for-our-sins.html Do bad things still happen because we sin? If through Jesus we are forgiven of all sin, does that mean we can now sin with impunity? Not quite. The Bible refers to the discipline of the Lord multiple times. Proverbs 3:11-12says, “My son, do not despise the Lord’s discipline, and do not resent his rebuke, because the Lord disciplines those he loves, as a father the son he delights in.” Hebrews 12 explains this in greater depth. Sometimes, it says, bad things that happen to us are a result of God’s discipline. They are not a retribution or punishment for sin; rather, they are a correction, as a parent would correct a child. They are not intended to break down, but rather to increase holiness in the believer (Hebrews 12:10). There are also societal or earthly consequences of sin. Just because God forgives us of murder doesn’t mean a murderer doesn’t have to serve jail time. Some negative experiences will flow naturally out of poor choices, such as financial hardship after gambling away money. These are not God’s “punishment;” they are natural results of our actions. Is everything bad that happens to me because God is “disciplining” me? There are several reasons people might suffer that have nothing to do with discipline. 1. Show God’s Glory In John 9, Jesus and his disciples encounter a man who has been blind from birth. The disciples ask Jesus, “Who sinned, this man or his parents, that he should be born blind?” (John 9:2) “‘Neither this man nor his parents sinned,’ said Jesus, ‘but this happened so that the works of God might be displayed in him’” (John 9:3). The disciples were operating under a common assumption of the time that any suffering one experienced was the result of sin that had not been confessed and atoned for. Jesus gave an alternate reason: a person might suffer so that God would be glorified. A person might suffer for a time so that they might experience an even greater good in the future. 2. Improve Us and Bring Us Closer to God When times are good, it’s easy to forget about our need for God, even though He is the one sustaining the very world we live in. It’s easy to become complacent in our relationship with Him. Thus, Paul writes, “Not only so, but we also glory in our sufferings, because we know that suffering produces perseverance; perseverance, character; and character, hope” (Romans 5:3-4). Suffering helps us to lean on God and improves our character. Thus, sometimes suffering is for this reason rather than as the result of any poor choices. 3. A Result of Following Christ In John 15:18, Jesus says, “If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first.” Christians face discrimination, persecution, and even death for their faith. In this case, the bad things that happen are because the Christian is doing something right. Jesus warned that a sinful world would hate those who were “not of the world” (John 17:16). Paul encourages us to rejoice in these sufferings (as noted above in Romans 5:3-4).

https://checkyourfact.com/2020/02/29/fact-check-donald-trump-coronavirus-hoax-south-carolina-rally/ Remember now, the Dem's media outlets that claim Trump called it a hoax, are the same media outlets who claimed 1st Lady Melania Trump wanted to have sex with Canada's Trudeau. All because of her lively response when Mr. Trudeau approached her to say hello back when they all were overseas at (G7 Summit?) the end of 2019.

This is a false statement. Yes, and you could edit it out for the sake of truth/facts. Remember from Oct - Feb he kept calling the Dem's impeachment effort a hoax, so once the Dem's lost the impeachment hoax and started politicizing the fight against the COVID 19 ... USA President Trump then said that the, hoax, is the Dems' politicizing the nation's fight against COVID 19. He never once said that COVID 19 itself, is a hoax. See, look: https://checkyourfact.com/2020/02/29/fact-check-donald-trump-coronavirus-hoax-south-carolina-rally/ Being hoodwinked by deceitful Dem's big media machines, means we can now go do ourselves a great service. Yes, by seeking the truth so that we won't ever embarrass ourselves in these forums.

Since Canadian GOVT helps fund the WHO then I hope Trudeau soon steps up/takes a bigger role in chastising both entities.

Coin = USA. I think it is called "Federal Government" since 1787.