Yzermandius19

I have the facts, but you've been reading press releases fueled by wishful thinking Trump haters, and think it's hard to tell the gist of what is in the Mueller Report, because they don't have a clue because of their obvious bias blinding them. I predicted this outcome years ago, and it wasn't hard to call, it was obvious the investigation never had the goods, every step of the way. The only people who thought otherwise, we're Trump Haters, no one who knew what they were talking about didn't see this coming.

My preemptive strike has you rattled. If I were you, I'd work on another spot to move the goalposts, instead of proving me right. Because the Mueller Report is not going to say what you think it will, so brace yourself.

Indeed, and when it comes out, your response will be exactly one of those two options. Don't say I didn't warn you.

No you won't. The report will come out, there will be no smoking gun, and you'll claim that it's somewhere in the redacted material, or you'll claim that Mueller and Barr are covering up for Trump because they didn't find anything. That's the only place to move the goalposts, and while it would nice if you finally saw the light, started to give Trump the benefit of the doubt at least when it comes to the Mueller report, I know you will move the goalposts instead.

Fine, but I already know the conclusions you are going to jump to. The evidence doesn't matter to you, you will never give Trump the benefit of the doubt under any circumstances, and I know where the Democrats and the media are going move the goalposts when their wishful thinking turns out to be just that, and you'll do the same. You won't be able to help yourself, even though I called you out on it pre-emptively, you'll still go there.

Can't prove a negative. It doesn't make any sense, Trump didn't try to scuttle the report, that's just wishful thinking, by people who hoped that Trump was scared of the Mueller Report, and saw what they wanted to see, despite the opposite actually being the case. Trump was never scared, he called it a witch hunt, because it was a witch hunt, not because he was scared. Wishful thinking is a helluva drug.

It wasn't done to attempt to stop the investigation, you have no proof and it's extremely unlikely that is the case. You just want it to be true, even though it makes no sense, and is highly unlikely. You will believe the worst about Trump without any proof to the contrary, regardless of the fact that it's impossible to prove a negative, you cling to fact that it can't be disproven to cling to a wild accusation that makes zero sense.

Can't prove he did it for that reason, then can't assume he did. It's not like there wasn't lots of great reasons to fire Comey that have nothing to do with Russia or obstruction of justice. Innocent until proven guilty, Occam's Razor suggests he didn't fire him to shut down the investigation, because the investigation continued without Comey, if the goal was to shut down the investigation, that didn't happen, and Trump would have known that wouldn't happen simply because he fired Comey. The "fired Comey to obstruct justice" theory makes no sense, on the face of it. Trump just didn't like Comey, wanted someone better to head up the FBI, and he had every right to fire Comey, so no need for wild conspiracy theories to explain it.

Because Comey sucks at his job. It's the Presidents prerogative to fire Comey, there is nothing that says he had to keep him on. I would have fired Comey too, and it has nothing to do with being worried that Comey was going to find dirt on Trump or me.

Sometimes when there is little fire that is no big deal, there is still a lot of smoke, that's all it is. Sometime famous people are the victims of false accusations, especially when they go into politics, and the media hates their guts. "Innocent until proven guilty" trumps "where there is smoke there is fire", especially when it comes to the law. If you choose to ignore how clearly politically motivated those accusations are, it's because you are blinded by hatred of Trump, or you believe all accusers, like a complete dolt.

I deny that Trump's legal history is reason to be that suspicious of him, it comes with the territory. In fact, Trump is much cleaner than I ever thought he was before he ran for President, I expected way more dirt, and they've been digging for it non-stop, so it's actually pretty impressive that Trump is as clean as he is.

It's impossible to prove that Trump didn't obstruct justice, but that doesn't mean there is any proof that he did obstruct justice. You can't prove a negative, that isn't a reason to be suspicious of Trump obstructing justice.

I am aware of his legal history, Owly. Just because it doesn't bring me to the same conclusion that it brings you to, doesn't mean that I am the one who in uninformed.

Not really. Anyone in the business he is in would have just as lengthy if not a lengthier history of legal troubles, boooring. I see no evidence that Trump is who the Democrats think he is, it's all buying their own press releases hopped up on wishful thinking dust.

No, Barr did not say so. Mueller said he has no proof of obstruction of justice, and Barr agreed. Not having evidence that he didn't commit obstruction of justice, is jack chit, you can't prove a negative, guilty until proven innocent is not a legal standard, innocent until proven guilty, is though, and there is a reason for that.

Has nothing to do with Barr. I knew what Barr's reaction was going to be, before he reacted to it. Just as I know what your reaction will be, before you react to it. You're the gullible one, assuming Trump is guilty until proven innocent, as if that is just as valid of a position as assuming innocence until proven guilty.

Once the report comes out, and you know what's in it, I can already anticipate your exact reaction, because I know the jist of what is in it, and you have no clue apparently. You'll see when it comes out, and there is no evidence of Trump committing any crime, you'll move the goalposts to exactly where I said you would, Trump Haters reactions are so easy to predict.

Obvious Fake News Is Obvious. Republicans don't want to release the Mueller Report the exact way the Democrats want them to, is not proof the Republicans are scared of the Mueller Report. They aren't scared at all, and neither is Trump, the Democrats are just grandstanding and trying to fool the public into thinking the Republicans are scared, but it's just wishful thinking. The report will come out in a few weeks or so, and then you'll just move the goalposts again.

They aren't stalling at all, they are just making sure to protect the sources that need to protect. Vox is just wants to pretend that the Republicans don't want it come out, they are full of chit.

I am merely pointing out what your exact reaction is going to be, in advance, so that everyone else can see how I called you moving the goalposts, and where you would move them to, when the Mueller Report doesn't say what you want it to say, and you can't hide behind, "just wait for the Mueller report" anymore.

Indeed. When it comes out, you still won't admit they have nothing on Trump, you'll cling to the parts of it that are redacted, as a cover up of the smoking gun. Can't wait for even more cognitive dissonance from the Trump Haters. Bring on the leftist tears, delicious. The Mueller Report is simply not what you think it is, and I can't wait to rub it in your face. You'll just the goalposts of course, but that will be funny.

No, can't wait for it to be released so that you can cling to some of it still being redacted as covering up the smoking gun. That will be jokes. Trump isn't worried at all, and he never was.

The report is coming, some of it will be redacted, it's not like he's only releasing a four page recap dude. I know some of the democrats and the media are fearmongering like that is the case, but that is obvious nonsense, the fact that you buy into that obvious conspiracy theory is laughable.

So any redactions just mean that the smoking gun is being hidden? You are honestly never going to give it up until every last line of the report isn't redacted? That's next level Trump hater status, right thur. Guilty until proven innocent, political witch hunt, who knew?

Seriously. Those who think that anyone who defends Trump are evil, are sanctimonious idiots of the highest order.