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Have you ever wondered, scribblet, what would happen if the US actually helped countries establish democracies instead of always installing the US's hand picked brutal, right wing [yes, right wing, like you] dictatorships?

You really ought not to be pointing fingers, capricorn.

Were you one of the duped, sapper?

Aren't you well informed, capricorn?

That's still the US murdering innocent men, women and children, Betsy, and you, a putative christian, revel in that fact. There are myriad examples of the US, its own soldiers murdering tens of millions, engaging in the same atrocities. Just to be clear, Are you supportive of the US funding proxies to slash women's breasts off, skin people alive, ... ? These US crimes against humanity took the lives of some 50,000 innocents. The US was convicted of international terrorism and you avidly support this international terrorism. Are you supportive of the US/UK supporting proxies to behead people, dismember them alive, stick hot pokers into their body orifices, ... ? These US/UK crimes against humanity took over a million innocents' lives.

Right back to your dishonesty.

The same old memes, Goddess. You lot are on this crusade for spurious reasons. Look at all the actual deaths that the US carries out against those who think the US has no business in their countries, murdering their children and stealing their wealth. Are you supportive of the US funding proxies to slash women's breasts off, skin people alive, ... ? Are you supportive of the US/UK supporting proxies to behead people, dismember them alive, stick hot pokers into their body orifices, ... ?

It explains it all, Altai. This has been so evident for over a century when the US and the UK fashioned the Middle East to help them steal those people's immense wealth.

A change of heart, bcsapper, a measure of honesty? What has come over you? You know full well that kids were brainwashed into joining up for the illegal invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan.

The US is ALWAYS involved when there is any government that goes against US right wing fascist policies, capricorn. That's why the US has had a terrorist training camp in the USA since after WWII. This camp has trained all the top Latin American terrorists/brutal right wing dictators that the US has installed in Latin American countries since way back around 1898. Don't tell me that you don't know of this. You know of the tens of millions the US has slaughtered since WWII so how can you be so naive to think that they are not committing the same terrorist acts in Venezuela that they were convicted of doing to Nicaragua during the war criminal/US felon Reagan era. The USA, the only country to ever be convicted of international terrorism I must remind you. ============================================ Why US Leaders Intervene Everywhere excerpted from the book The Terrorism Trap by Michael Parenti City Lights Books, 2002 Washington policymakers claim that US intervention is motivated by a desire to fight terrorism, bring democracy to other peoples, maintain peace and stability in various regions, defend our national security, protect weaker nations from aggressors, oppose tyranny, prevent genocide, and the like. But if US leaders have only the best intentions when they intervene in other lands, why has the United States become the most hated nation in the terrorist's pantheon of demons? And not only Muslim zealots but people from all walks of life around the world denounce the US government as the prime purveyor of violence and imperialist exploitation. Do they see something that most Americans have not been allowed to see? Supporting the Right Since World War II, the US government has given some $240 billion in military aid to build up the military and internal security forces of more than eighty other nations. The purpose of this enormous effort has been not to defend these nations from invasion by foreign aggressors but to protect their various ruling oligarchs and multinational corporate investors from the dangers of domestic anticapitalist insurgency. That is what some of us have been arguing. But how can we determine that? By observing that (a) with few exceptions there is no evidence suggesting that these various regimes have ever been threatened by attack from neighboring countries; (b) just about all these "friendly" regimes have supported economic systems that are integrated into a global system of corporate domination, open to foreign penetration on terms that are singularly favorable to transnational investors; (c) there is a great deal of evidence that US-supported military and security forces and death squads in these various countries have been repeatedly used to destroy reformist movements, labor unions, peasant organizations, and popular insurgencies that advocate some kind of egalitarian redistributive politics for themselves. For decades we were told that a huge US military establishment was necessary to contain an expansionist world Communist movement with its headquarters in Moscow (or sometimes Beijing). But after the overthrow of the Soviet Union and other Eastern European communist nations in 1989-1991, Washington made no move to dismantle its costly and dangerous global military apparatus. All Cold War weapons programs continued in full force, with new ones being added all the time, including the outer-space National Missile Defense and other projects to militarize outer space. Immediately the White House and Pentagon began issuing jeremiads about a whole host of new enemies-for some unexplained reason previously overlooked-who menace the United States, including "dangerous rogue states" like Libya with its ragtag army of 50,000 and North Korea with its economy on the brink of collapse. The real intentions of US national security state leaders can be revealed in part by noting whom they assist and whom they attack. US leaders have consistently supported rightist regimes and organizations and opposed leftist ones. The terms "Right" and "Left" are seldom specifically defined by policymakers or media commentators-and with good reason. To explicate the politico-economic content of leftist governments and movements is to reveal their egalitarian and usually democratic goals, making it much harder to demonize them. The "Left," as I would define it, encompasses those individuals, organizations, and governments that oppose the privileged interests of wealthy propertied classes, while advocating egalitarian redistributive policies and a common development beneficial to the general populace. The Right too is involved in redistributive politics, but the distribution goes the other way, in an upward direction. Rightist governments and groups, including fascist ones, are dedicated to using the land, labor, markets, and natural resources of countries as so much fodder for the enrichment of the owning and investing classes. In almost every country including our own, rightist groups, parties, or governments pursue tax and spending programs, wage and investment practices, methods of police and military control, and deregulation and privatization policies that primarily benefit those who receive the bulk of their income from investments and property, at the expense of those who live off wages, salaries, fees, and pensions. That is what defines and distinguishes the Right from the Left. In just about every instance, rightist forces are deemed by US opinion makers to be "friendly to the West," a coded term for "pro-capitalist." Conversely, leftist ones are labeled as "anti-democratic," "anti-American" and "anti-West," when actually what they are against is global capitalism. While claiming to be motivated by a dedication to human rights and democracy, US leaders have supported some of the most notorious rightwing autocracies in history, governments that have tortured, killed or otherwise maltreated large numbers of their citizens because of their dissenting political views, as in Turkey, Zaire, Chad, Pakistan, Morocco, Indonesia, Honduras, Peru, Colombia, Argentina, El Salvador, Guatemala, Haiti, the Philippines, Cuba (under Batista), Nicaragua (under Somoza), Iran (under the Shah), and Portugal (under Salazar). Washington also assists counterrevolutionary groups that have perpetrated some of the most brutal bloodletting against civilian populations in leftist countries: Unita in Angola, Renamo in Mozambique, the contras in Nicaragua, the Khmer Rouge (during the 1980s) in Cambodia, the mujahideen and then the Taliban in Afghanistan, and the rightwing drug-dealing KLA terrorists in Kosovo. All this is a matter of public record although seldom if ever treated in the US media. Washington's support has extended to the extreme rightist reaches of the political spectrum. Thus, after World War 11 US leaders and their Western capitalist allies did nothing to eradicate fascism from Europe, except for prosecuting some top Nazi leaders at Nuremberg. In short time, former Nazis and their collaborators were back in the saddle in Germany. Hundreds of Nazi war criminals found a haven in the United States and Latin America, either living in comfortable anonymity or employed by US intelligence agencies during the Cold War. In France, very few Vichy collaborators were purged. "No one of any rank was seriously punished for his or her role in the roundup and deportation of Jews to Nazi camps." US military authorities also restored fascist collaborators to power in various Far East nations. In South Korea, police trained by the fascist Japanese occupation force were used after the war to suppress left democratic forces. The South Korean Army was commanded by officers who had served in the Imperial Japanese Army, some of whom had been guilty of horrid war crimes in the Philippines and China. ln Italy, within a year after the war, almost all Italian fascists were released from prison while hundreds of communists and other leftist partisans who had been valiantly fighting the Nazi occupation were jailed. Allied authorities initiated most of these measures. In the three decades after the war, US government agencies gave an estimated $75 million to right-wing organizations in Italy. From 1969 to 1974, high-ranking elements in Italian military and civilian intelligence agencies, along with various secret and highly placed neofascist groups embarked upon a campaign of terror and sabotage known as the "strategy of tension," involving a series of kidnappings, assassinations, and bombing massacres directed against the growing popularity of the democratic parliamentary Left. In 1995, a deeply implicated CIA, refused to cooperate with an Italian parliamentary commission investigating this terrorist campaign. http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Parenti/Why_US_Intervenes.html

Yup, hot beaches are boring as hell and they suck, big time. Getting stuck on one is no fun at all.

See how easily Omni moves to prevarication with zero evidence. This has nothing to do with you attempting to pump yourself up, Omni, with your UN tall tales.

Betsy, the evidence free zone. Why are you now lying? Isn't that a sin? Isn't it a sin to bear false witness, Betsy? These don't seem very christian of you.

As a prevaricator of the first order, Omni, you just don't like science, or the truth. Why do you keep ignoring the voluminous evidence presented by top scientists that shows clearly that nanothermite was found in WTC dust? This is peer reviewed science that has not ever been contested. You present MrSkunkwork100, a video so full of lies that it doesn't even agree with the US government's reports, US government scientists. You tell tale tales about being a UN something or other, you tell outright lies about 911, never once providing any evidence for the USGOCT. The goofy things you do present, MrSkunkwork100 being a dandy example, you abandon with great speed because EVEN you know it is totally bogus, but still you persist in your myriad prevarications.

No evidence, ever, from you, Betsy. All you conservatives give is memes, a repeat of the propaganda that has been drilled into your brainwashed heads. The USA has been trying to overthrow the government of Syria for years. That is the very definition of terrorism. Why is a christian lady such a big supporter of war criminals/terrorists, baby killers, rapists, thieves, ... ? ======================== General Wesley Clark I knew why, because I had been through the Pentagon right after 9/11. About ten days after 9/11, I went through the Pentagon and I saw Secretary Rumsfeld and Deputy Secretary Wolfowitz. I went downstairs just to say hello to some of the people on the Joint Staff who used to work for me, and one of the generals called me in. He said, “Sir, you’ve got to come in and talk to me a second.” I said, “Well, you’re too busy.” He said, “No, no.” He says, “We’ve made the decision we’re going to war with Iraq.” This was on or about the 20th of September. I said, “We’re going to war with Iraq? Why?” He said, “I don’t know.” He said, “I guess they don’t know what else to do.” So I said, “Well, did they find some information connecting Saddam to al-Qaeda?” He said, “No, no.” He says, “There’s nothing new that way. They just made the decision to go to war with Iraq.” He said, “I guess it’s like we don’t know what to do about terrorists, but we’ve got a good military and we can take down governments.” And he said, “I guess if the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem has to look like a nail.”So I came back to see him a few weeks later, and by that time we were bombing in Afghanistan. I said, “Are we still going to war with Iraq?” And he said, “Oh, it’s worse than that.” He reached over on his desk. He picked up a piece of paper. And he said, “I just got this down from upstairs” -- meaning the Secretary of Defense’s office -- “today.” And he said, “This is a memo that describes how we’re going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and, finishing off, Iran.” I said, “Is it classified?” He said, “Yes, sir.” I said, “Well, don’t show it to me.” And I saw him a year or so ago, and I said, “You remember that?” He said, “Sir, I didn’t show you that memo! I didn’t show it to you!” https://genius.com/General-wesley-clark-seven-countries-in-five-years-annotated

That's one of your favorite distortions/diversions/lies right there. You have no sense of shame, you have absolutely no qualms about telling the tallest of tales. Your UN tall tale is not even your biggest lie.

And you do it again; another Omni distortion, which as you well know, is just another kind of lie, Mr UN. Why have you failed to address the voluminous science issues presented to you? Because you seek only diversions and fabrications. Why do you continue to embarrass yourself? Are you that insecure an individual that you have to make up falsehoods about yourself?

I wish that were the case, Jacee, but Omni regularly presents, with no shame whatsoever, bald faced lies in the Providing proof/evidence that supports the US 911 Conspiracy Theory.

You and b_c2004 are two peas in a pod. Neither of you have the slightest knowledge of the events of 911 or the science of 911 yet you both advance the most specious nonsense, always with zero evidence, notions that a child would know are lies. And you both do it with such glaring audacity, like "the bigger lie I tell, the more I think people will believe me".

Jeff Farrer points out in the video that you failed to watch, prevaricator that you are, that they tested WTC steel paint chips but they were not at all exothermic like the red/gray unreacted nanothermite particles. They burned, as anything organic will but they did not react in an exothermic fashion like the red/gray unreacted nanothermite particles did. And here you provide yet another dandy example of just what a fabricator you are, that your only intent is diversion, that you have no interest or knowledge of the science. Had you watched the video of Dr Farrer, you would know better than to advance this lie.

You know that nanothermite was found in WTC dust and still you go on lying. It has been proven to you by top scientists but still you act deluded about this. Why? This is way worse than your MrSkunkwork100 song and dance routine and your Lubango fabrication. With each post you cement your position as a major fabricator/prevaricator.

You said, "and I'm here trying to help the UN figure out who actually won that election", which obviously is one of those famous Omni grand exaggerations/prevarications/fabrications/... .

Omni, you stated that the UN sometimes hires pilots. Now you are pretending you are a top UN administration official. Is there going to be a new movie, Catch Omni If You Can?

You know that nanothermite was found in WTC dust and still you go on lying. This is way worse than your MrSkunkwork100 song and dance routine. With each post you cement your position as a major fabricator/prevaricator. Why do you persist in your fabrications?

I answered it and, as thick as you are, because logic totally escapes you, you missed it. And you continue to embarrass yourself, or much worse, you are doubling down on your fabrications just like you did with your MrSkunkwork100. Omni, think for a second. You have shown yourself to be nothing but a prevaricator, a person who is only interested in diversion, which is another form of lying. All these scientists say you are full of BS, right up to your eyeballs. You know that nanothermite was found in WTC dust and still you go on lying. This is way worse than your MrSkunkwork100 song and dance routine. With each post you cement your position as a major fabricator/prevaricator.