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Nothing at all, again. How can you pretend to be something you are not. Why are your research skills so bad that you can't even locate a video where Professor Hulsey went over the entire NIST versus his approach?

The force behind the motion of the twin towers was not "DOWN AND OUT", it was "OUT AND THEN DOWN". The explosive force that blew the human being out of one of the twin towers came from the same forces that created the "OUT AND THEN DOWN".

What you thought is of no consequence. You've illustrated that time and again with your inability to address anything.

Wilber, it was your question. Why are you so afraid of your own question?

Yes, I do have a very good idea of what was reported, Omni, do you? But that has nothing to do with the central premise of this thread, the one that everyone is avoiding like the plague because your minds won't let you go there, to discuss the truth. It's the equivalent for you of finding out that each and everyone of you folks' mothers are axe murderers. But really, don't any of you you have any respect for the truth, for the American way of justice and fairness?

The rational one. You raised the 10,000 gallons story and then refused to discuss it; by your own admission.

Can you fellows even read? Go back and read what I said.

No, Wilber, it was you who made that assumption and then refused to discuss it.

Sure it does. Stay with the science. Molten metals means the alleged hijackers didn't cause the collapse of WTCs 1, 2 & 7. WTC7 fell at free fall speed. How did the alleged hijackers manage that when they didn't come within 500 yards, give or take, of WTC7? Free fall also means the alleged hijackers didn't cause the collapse of WTCs 1, 2 & 7. Because WTC7 falling at free fall means it was a controlled demolition, which means the other two were also CDs. Accelerating collapse speeds for WTCs 1 & 2 also mean that the alleged hijackers didn't cause the collapse of WTCs 1, 2 & 7. A human being being explosively ejected from one of the twin towers at a high rate of speed means the alleged hijackers didn't cause the collapse of WTCs 1, 2 & 7. Why? Because NIST said there were no explosives but the video evidence doesn't lie. The molten steel or iron pouring out of WTC2 minutes before it was blown up also means the alleged hijackers didn't cause the collapse of WTCs 1, 2 & 7. There are myriad other solid reasons that illustrate the alleged hijackers didn't cause the collapse of WTCs 1, 2 & 7. An simple experiment performed by an engineer who does this kind of thing for a living shows perfectly that the motions on WTC 1 & 2 were not down and then out, they were out and then down.

Where have you been, Wilber, with all of your way off topic posts? It was all explained in the first post of this thread. http://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums/topic/26612-why-all-the-worldwide-turmoil/

I stand corrected. I have used PMs. But I have never received one in this regard; "The warnings are visible to members in 2 places: ... 2) among your personal messages"

What are Recent Status Updates on the right side of main screen?

Yes, I happene to notice them by accident on my profile page, after noticing something on another poster's profile page. I don't even know where "personal messages" are. I can't recall having any personal messages with anyone on this site, ever.

Where does one get this warning?

Thank you for your scientific comments, Betsy, and scientific emoticons. They are very helpful.

Are warning points just surreptitiously added to one's Profile page?

Welcome back to planet Earth. How long have you been away? A pussy grabbing, ignorant, compulsive liar, serial liar, misogynist, ..., is important to all the world. Especially those in countries who are worried about how many of their children, friends and other loved ones will be murdered.

See, I told you you didn't understand much about these issues, Betsy. It doesn't matter that there might be more reactive or less reactive explosives being developed by a nation that has spent so much of its existence developing better ways to kill innocent men, women and children. The point is that there was no legal/legitimate reason for this recently US developed, non commercially available, high grade military explosive to be at WTC, an explosive that is capable of slicing thru large girders.

Betsy, you don't know anything about these topics. You are like all the others, [with a minor exception as regards Impact, who thinks that big and bold print, and emoticons will make you appear knowledgeable. They don't.

They are in both of our heads, and every other sane human being's head. The only difference is you are too frightened to embrace the truth, so you hide away in your prejudices.

Those aren't the people who blew up WTCs 1, 2 & 7, then falsely accused others of doing so so they could illegally invade sovereign nations to continue stealing their wealth.

Some people have morals.

Thank you, Rue. Wilber said nothing in three sentences. You, on the other hand take hundreds of sentences to say nothing.

When an anti-truther, like you, pretends in his every post that he is engaging in honest discussion and then only uses diversionary non sequiturs, we see clearly that the official conspiracy theory is pure hokum. So you still have not been able to located Professor Hulsey giving a, roughly 45 minute to one hour talk on why NIST's report has a zero chance of being accurate. And you have no explanation for the human being being blown out of the WTC window. You have never accessed any scientific publications in this whole discussion. You don't point out that all your really strange bedfellows say nothing at all, just like you.

Less understood, and requiring further study, are unusual illnesses of the immune system commonly observed in the WTC first responders. These include various types of interstitial lung disease, such as eosinophilic pneumonia, granulomatous pneumonitis, and bronchial obliterans. Environmental triggers for these illnesses include aluminum silicates, which have been found in the lungs of WTC first responders at high levels in “unusual platy configurations.” [2] Other common WTC lung ailments include sarcoidosis, which is known to be caused by aluminum dust[3], and pulmonary fibrosis, which can be caused by aluminum oxide.[4] These findings have, until now, lacked an adequate scientific explanation. But recent research suggests a correlation with the causes of the destruction of WTC buildings 1, 2 and 7. Aluminum oxide – a potential cause of the observed pulmonary fibrosis – is a product of the thermite reaction, and there is now considerable evidence for the use of thermite in the destruction of WTC buildings 1, 2 and 7.[5] Additionally, aluminum and silicates – potential causes of the observed illnesses of the immune system – are components of nanothermite formulations. Thermite is a mixture of aluminum powder and a metal oxide that, when ignited, exhibits an extremely exothermic reaction producing aluminum oxide and the metal in molten form. The thermite reaction has been utilized for welding railroads ties and for cutting metal as with anti-tank grenades. Thermite has also been used to develop patented devices for the demolition of structures. One such device allows for demolition of a concrete structure “at a high efficiency, while preventing a secondary problem due to noise, flying dust and chips, and the like.”[6] A recent experiment shows that thermite can cut structural steel efficiently.[7] Sulfur is often added to thermite mixtures to improve the burn qualities and it is then called thermate. Nanothermite, or superthermite, is a more recently developed variation on thermite in which the aluminum and metal oxide are mixed on the nanometer scale, allowing for more rapid energy release. Nanothermite can be a simple mixture of nanometer-scale powders or it can be made in a silicon matrix, through a solution-based technique, resulting in “sol-gel” nanothermite. The sol-gel process allows for the use of organic materials which expand during the reaction, providing more explosive power. In 2009, an international team of researchers discovered what appear to be sol-gel nanothermite formulations in every WTC dust sample tested.[8] Additionally, similar to the findings of aluminum silicates in the lungs of first responders, the aluminum found in the nanothermite of WTC dust samples was present, along with silicon, in plate-like (platy) configurations.[9] Whether or not the platy configurations of aluminum silicates in the lungs of WTC workers are related to the platy configurations of aluminum and silicon in WTC dust samples is a question that should be answered through further investigation. Environmental factors A review of WTC environmental testing results produced by EPA and the University of California was published in 2008.[10] That review showed that air and aerosol emissions of sulfur and silicon compounds at Ground Zero provided evidence that energetic materials such as thermite and nanothermite were present. The silicon compounds (i.e. silicates) were indicative of the sol-gel variety of nanothermites, and the sulfur compounds suggested the presence of thermate, a sulfur containing derivative of thermite. http://911blogger.com/news/2011-02-04/energetic-materials-potential-cause-911-first-responder-illnesses