hot enough

Well, Impact, are you honest enough to explain to Betsy just how poorly she understood that?

"almost certain" You have no sense of shame. NIST says NO EXPLOSIONS.

WOW, Mr Science Guy, that is truly impressive!. "I replicated "that"" [but I was too frightened to present the results from my stunning experiment] Building still standing; no collapse like that is possible. Paint chips can't give the chemical signature of thermite.

Apparently, you, like Wilber, can't even comprehend the written language, Betsy. You don't even understand how "estimate" and "assumptions" are being used here, what they are actually describing. I suspected as much about you quite some time ago. You are quite the able little cutter and paster, but you know very little about the topics you comment on. Maybe Mr Honest Scientist or Wilber, or ... will explain your profound misunderstanding to you.

ABSOLUTELY NOTHING Why? From Mr Science Guy?

Old material, Wilber. You have to keep up to date or you will look the ----. The vaporized steel you saw makes it clear that the alleged hijackers did not cause the collapse of WTCs 1 and 2 and ESPECIALLY WTC 7. You are entitled to your own opinion but certainly not your own set of miserably informed "facts"

I did, a number of things. How has a bright guy like you missed them all? 1. The human being being explosively ejected from a window of one of the twin towers. One of yours, being exploded out a window opening, by a government that categorically denied there were explosions, despite numerous reports from eye witnesses, reporters, firemen, ... . Do you need the link, AGAIN? 2. Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe https://benthamopen.com/contents/pdf/TOCPJ/TOCPJ-2-7.pdf US, non-commercially available nanothermite/superthermite, a new generation of super explosives. 3. Vaporized steel, eutectic steel, that can only be created by thermite/superthermite ...

Ask FEMA, the arm of the US government.

No Wilber calculations to confirm, no sources to help confirm Wilber's notions. As always, nothing.

You are terribly unqualified, Wilber, as regards the science and just plain reading comprehension. I have never once denied " that two aircraft slammed into those buildings and that they were carrying thousands of gallons of fuel". This is what I said in the first post and a number of times after that. Premise: It is completely impossible that the alleged 911 hijackers caused the collapse of WTC towers 1, 2 and 7. You say I deny "thousands of gallons of fuel". How on Earth could you write such a thing? This is what I added in a post on the page just before this one. How could there not be Impact, anyone pointing out how off the wall, how totally unrealistic you are being? "Thus, the fact that there were 90,000 L of jet fuel on a few floors of the WTC does not mean that this was an unusually hot fire."

Okay, Wilber, you have shown yourself to be completely unqualified to even discuss these things. As is Impact because he does the same thing you do, avoid "like the plague" all the crucial, scientific issues, engaging in deception and avoidance. He even supports your abundantly clear and frequent deceptions when he should be, [considering his pretense that he is fair and balanced], pointing them out. I wonder why neither of you have addressed Topaz's posts.

Have you no reply for Topaz's posts?

We know, Wilber, you have made it perfectly clear numerous times that you can't, won't go anywhere near the actual issues, the scientific issues. Why then do you keep embarrassing yourself?

Actually, it's the supporters of the US government official conspiracy theory who are avoiding that. All the molten/vaporized metals means, proves beyond a reasonable doubt, is totally conclusive that the alleged hijackers have been falsely accused. Even though you all can read exactly what I have stated numerous times, no one will address that impossibility. You USGOCTs have avoided the subject of the hijackers and the impossible molten/vaporized metals "like the plague".

How did the explosion that blew the human being out of the window of one of the twin towers, seen in the video you must have ignored, come to be?

Completely ignoring the fact that the WTC skyscrapers were specifically designed for that very thing, being "hit by large aircraft", with full fuel load. Ten million gallons of jet fuel didn't make any difference, nor would a 100 million, Wilber. Molten steel, vaporized steel, molten Mo, vaporized lead, ... were all impossible from the jet fuel/office furnishings fires that were present at WTC. Nor was it capable of vaporizing steel or melting Mo [4,700F] or vaporizing lead [3,100F]. It was only capable of reaching the maximum temperature that a diffuse flame can reach, 1,800F.

Or this one, Dubai's Torch Tower Consumed by Flames http://abcnews.go.com/International/dubai-torch-tower-ablaze-dramatic-video/story?id=29117236 Why is there such deep delusion among supporters of the highly fallacious US government official conspiracy theory? It simply makes no sense, but I have to admit that it has worked wonders on millions of people who are unable to see that this is something that the US government has been doing for centuries, deluding the highly gullible. Fires Have Never Caused Skyscrapers to Collapse http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/analysis/compare/fires.html The One Meridian Plaza fire Excepting the three 9-11 collapses, no fire, however severe, has ever caused a steel-framed high-rise building to collapse. Following are examples of high-rise fires that were far more severe than those in WTC 1and 2, and Building 7. In these precedents, the fires consumed multiple floors, produced extensive window breakage, exhibited large areas of emergent flames, and went on for several hours. The fires in the WTC towers did none of these things.

No, the proof I provide is that this person who pretends he is "willing to look at research" has not once done so. Nor has he provided any, nor has he encouraged his coterie of equally deluded researchers to actually do some. "the youtube generation." Then get your kids or grandkids to help you.

That doesn't explain how the alleged hijackers were able to melt steel and iron, vaporize steel, melt Mo with jet fuel. Nor does it explain how they were able to cause WTC7 to collapse at free fall speed, or deliver superthermite to WTC sites. But it does illustrate just how confused, on purpose, this whole US government official conspiracy theory has been in its delivery to the people of the US, which is, and always has been, par for the course.

No one knows, Wilber, because there is no real evidence about this. There are only the fictions created by the very people who blew up the buildings, evidenced by the following. Follow the science, Wilber. Professor Leroy Hulsey says, after a two year study of NIST's report on WTC7 that the chance of NIST's report being accurate is ZERO. =============== Why would NIST lie about: the molten/vaporized steel, iron and other metals?the many explosions heard, videoed and reported by numerous people?WTC7 free fall?the molten steel/iron pouring out of WTC2 minutes before the collapse?the above mentioned molten steel/iron, calling it aluminum when they were proven wrong, when it was shown it could not be molten aluminum?their false claim RE: molten aluminum and keep that false claim in their FAQs to this day?the manner of collapse for WTC7, maintaining the ludicrous notion that one column's failure caused a total, free fall, completely symmetrical collapse of WTC7?that same collapse, showing a computer simulation graphic of their "scientific" result for the collapse of WTC7 that doesn't remotely match the reality seen in numerous videos from numerous angles?

That is way over broad, dre. It's not my theory. Molten steel/iron, vaporized steel, molten Mo, all with melting points a thousand to thousands of degrees F above what jet fuel and office furnishings can attain say clearly that the alleged hijackers could not have cause those molten metals. These were the products of superthermite/nanothermite, which was also found in WTC dust. What was a US developed, non-commercially available, built from the atomic level up high grade military explosive doing at WTC on 9-11? The alleged hijackers didn't produce it or transport it there. Who did?

All this molten steel simply wasn't possible for the alleged hijackers to have caused. It "defies rational belief" but when you are dealing with irrational people, who simply can't go where logic takes them. The US government has lied again, just as they have done myriad times in the past. Why would they care about 3,000 westerners when they needed "another Pearl Harbor"? Why would they care about millions more killed in Iraq and Afghanistan. They had been using the people of Iraq, stealing their oil wealth, since the 1920s. What kind of people defend this kind of evil?

That's hilarious, Wilber. You can't even understand the first post in this thread.

It's all much too much for a low level soldier to grasp.

See the initial post in this thread.