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This issue was first raised in another thread but it deserves its own thread. Were there actually any real hijackers on 9-11? Again, the facts don't support it. There are so many gigantic holes in the US official conspiracy theory that you could fly a fleet of 747s thru them. This thread will also serve to highlight just what a joke the 911 Commission was and still is today. It didn't get the name The 911 Omission Commission for nothing. And that was all planned before it started. Hit it!

As I said, there are so many unanswered questions by all the folks who think they have such a solid case. Strange, ain't it? So now, you can't answer the questions for B_C.

Did you read what B_C just described? Have you heard of WikiLeaks, Gulf of Tonkin, ... ? "If you think any American official is going to tell you the truth, then you're stupid." - Arthur Sylvester, assistant secretary of defense for public affairs, to American journalists, 1965

Are you sure you can even read and formulate the pertinent questions?

Here we go again. Why don't you just flee like she does?

And then off you go on other fanciful parables. Can you folks not focus?

Nope, that is impossible to do. One can't speak against that which doesn't exist. Why would a real god pick a couple of western names that hadn't even been invented yet? Why would he [sexist -how can a god be so sexist] pick two whiteys when that isn't at all likely? When the two baddies were booted out did they land in Africa and turn black? The rest of that nonsensical story also makes no sense. But have at 'er, live a life of delusion.

That is very telling. Then help her out. She'll likely be angry with you because she is so thorough about backing up her notions with sources and strong arguments.

The very people that are made in his [sexist devil] image are "born in a state of sin and death and is in rebellion against God". Why wouldn't such a perfect creature wipe us all out and start over again? How could a perfect creature who is all knowing and all seeing have set in place such a monstrous mess? How do so many people get so badly duped? One only has to look at "[unspeakable date]" to see that.

There are so many, hundreds of unanswered questions from you anti-truth folks on these pages. Perhaps you might want to help out Bush_Cheney with the questions that have her stumped.

Read the points and refute them. With real information, aka facts.

There are so many lies, so many falsehoods that have been advanced by the US government, the 911 Commission, NIST, Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Pearl, Zelikow, Rice, Powell, ... that an honest person doesn't know where to turn. ============== Point Flt-1: A Claim Regarding Hijacked Passenger Jets The Official Account The 9/11 Commission Report holds that four airplanes (American Airlines flights 11 and 77, and United Airlines flights 93 and 175) were hijacked on 9/11. [1] The Best Evidence Pilots are trained to “squawk” the universal hijack code (7500) [2] on a transponder if they receive evidence of an attempted hijacking, thereby notifying FAA controllers on the ground. But leading newspapers and the 9/11 Commission pointed out that FAA controllers were not notified. [3] A CNN story said that pilots are trained to send the hijack code “if possible.” [4] But entering the code takes only two or three seconds, whereas it took hijackers, according to the official story, more than 30 seconds to break into the pilots’ cabin of Flight 93. [5] The fact that not one of the eight pilots performed this required action casts serious doubt on the hijacker story. [6] ========================== Most of the pilots were ex-military, obviously trained in hand to hand combat. That all eight just handed over the "hijacked" planes strains credulity. No squawks, no sounds of struggles, not one of the eight pilots saying one word about what was supposedly going on. Anyone want to buy the Golden Gate Bridge, real cheap?

See page one of this thread.

"terrorists" are folks that don't have a gigantic propaganda system. It's ironic but in reality, the most active terrorists are those with the biggest propaganda systems. Japan doesn't have much of a propaganda system. An unbelievable train system. The top propaganda systems are to be found in English speaking countries that revolve around the propaganda hub. No one has to be told where that hub is.

How come he didn't tell folks about it? Why did he let his god like creatures sit around in a state of abysmal ignorance for so long? Why did this all loving what just happen to bestow his bible and his blessings on a certain narrow group of the world's, creatures, his creations? Why did humans decide that he, the sexist he, had made humans in his image. There are lots of other creatures that are much more beautiful, why wouldn't he, hse, pick a beautiful animal instead of ugly humans? If hse is all everything good, why did he pick the oooglies as his children?

Why did this supernatural creature sit around for, who knows, how many septillions of milleniums before he thought one "day" [what could a day have been?, "gee, I think I'm gonna make an Adam and Eve, when we all know it was Lucy and her "no good fer nuttin', chasing other ape like creatures" man whose name is lost in antiquity, whatever antiquity meant to this god who hadn't ever made anything. Where did he live if there was nothing? What was his house made of? Did he opt for a Trump mansion? Or did he figger, no, that would be screwing with the space time continuum?

'they' isn't the correct pronoun reference for me, Betsy. Are you then saying then that folks are only welcome if they sing to glorify and praise God ? Questions are not to be asked of adult church members?

Were there any lies advanced to support the "wild ass" US conspiracy theory? You bet there were, there were many, some crazy wild ass lies that only real dupes, or much worse, avid supporters of these lies and this gigantic world tragedy, the murder and mayhem, would buy. Yet, how many people still cling to the false notion that Osama bin Laden was involved in 9-11? Probably as many who believe in the "wild ass" US conspiracy theory that alleged hijackers can cause a 47 storey office tower to fall at free fall.

Alleged hijackers bring down three towers with two planes, one falling at free fall speed, the other two, at accelerating speed. All of which is impossible. But "Any wild-ass conspiracy theory will do, because facts don't matter at all." US made nanothermites are found in the remains. US scientists state: "These new materials have structures that can be controlled on the nanometer (billionth-of-a-meter) scale. Simpson explains, "In general, the smaller the size of the materials being combined, the better the properties of energetic materials. Since these `nanostructures' are formed with particles on the nanometer scale, the performance can be improved over materials with particles the size of grains of sand or of powdered sugar. In addition, these `nanocomposite' materials can be easier and much safer to make than those made with traditional methods." But, "Any wild-ass conspiracy theory will do, because facts don't matter at all".

I had said, "The WT fire doesn't show that at all and neither does your link to the US interstate bridge. I asked you to explain how "steel reinforced concrete" and steel framed office towers are the same and you still haven't addressed this." and you never addressed it. In fact, you did what you always do, flee, and then appear some pages later after you consider the dust has settled enough for you to advance your next fiction. After you answer this one, there are others waiting for you. Don't facts matter to you at all?

This is truly unbelievable. The confusion, the misinformation, the wildly false accusations, the leap to illogical conclusions, ... . 1) Inquiry never does stop. It is ludicrous and false to suggest it does or should. You have heard of cold cases, have you not? And to malign truth seekers by suggesting they are making profits is just out of this world. 2) That was very, very difficult to parse. The method that has been used by the folks you call and help others call disparaging names, is one of independent scientists, some who have suffered a great deal for doing the very job their job description states, doing independent, straight science, guided by the principles of science. That doesn't mean "to have someone with a background in science ask questions about some aspect of this disaster that many others agree on", and even it did, I hate to have to inform you - that is science and that is how science works! Professor Hulsey is doing a two year totally independent study. Check with him, ask him, find out if he is following the guidelines of science regarding maintaining neutrality. If he was doing something untoward, what you spuriously are suggesting, he would have long ago been drummed out of his university. Do some research before you make wild insinuations. Why are we continuing to ask questions? Because of people like you, who support, avidly, and are satisfied with the half baked, nonsensical, unscientific, done in secret, fraudulent claims made a government who has a long and storied history of grand lies. A government that put in place a commission and two studies that grossly ignored reality to cover the butts of what we all know are war criminals.

9-11: Military nano thermite unknown to the general public found in the dust

Now the nanothermite.

Not in the least, have you discussed the science, the science you pretend you have studied closely. If that were true you would be able to discuss it fluently, not haltingly, stumbling from one incoherent post to the next.

What folks might these be, Leslie Robertson and John Skilling?