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I'll gladly admit that I was wrong about crown corps not paying taxes if you'll admit that the "taxes" they pay are just transfers to other levels of government, or a return of funds to taxpayers, and that these taxes paid in no way supports the government (which is the primary purpose of taxes).

That's just a transfer from fed to prov/muni governments with a different delivery method. Let's call a spade a spade.

Doesn't really matter what I said. You could pay a federal employee 1 million dollars, tax them 950k, and say they're "overtaxed". In the end, any taxes paid from tax dollars is not beneficial to the government income statement. It just means a tax dollar recipient borrowed money from the government for a brief period. Why do we care whether or not crown corps pay taxes? Because taxes support the government. You're being disingenuous to argue that any of the taxes paid with tax dollars already taken supports the govt. Just another failure of logic from the left.

What?

Nope. It is implicitly income taxes under discussion when discussing corporate taxes. Find me any article about corporate taxes that discusses the taxes mentioned by guyser. Fwiw, I've argued several times for 0% corp taxes (note: income tax rate) because of the other taxes mentioned by guyser.

So when we talk about corporations not paying enough taxes, we're talking about sale taxes, payroll taxes, property taxes, and taxes paid by their employees? I guess we should redefine "fair" if corporate taxation is "unfair".

No I didn't. CC did.

I wasn't wrong. You'd have to be quite incompetent to think we're talking about the taxes you listed. When talking about "taxes" paid by a corporation, it is implicit that you are referring to income taxes. Furthermore any "taxes" are paid out of tax dollars from the government. That's not paying taxes. That's just giving back some of what was taken. The taxes could be completely exempted, and the company could then just be given less tax dollars to reflect the lower expenses. I'm also not convinced CBC pays any of those taxes (other than those paid by their employees), as they are an agent crown corp. Agent crown corps are exempt from taxation from other levels of govt. Like I said, partisan hack.

I don't know if that's possible! But seriously.. The point is pretty irrelevant since Canada mandates some % of Canadian conten iirc, and it's not like I support such mandates or those grants being offered by the feds.

Interesting standard you apply to CBC vs private corporations. I suppose you will also argue that corporations are overtaxed given they pay all of that plus corporate income taxes? Of course you won't because you're a partisan hack. I'm pretty sure you could find labour intensive corporations in Canada that pay over 100% tax by your definition. Seriously, this is a pathetic argument that really dispays how biased you are.

Yes true equality is turning out to be a delusional right wing fantasy. This can all be traced back to the equality of opportunity vs equality of outcomes argument. "Progressives" believe that if outcomes aren't equal (ie. Women and minorities aren't paid/employed equally), then there must be inequality in the system. Conservatives believe in offering equal opportunity, but that underprivileged sexes/races/classes are responsible for catching up on their own. We are not self-loathing reverse-racists.

I said to build a world class subway in toronto. If you can't read then, well, ...

This is nonsense. What exactly did Romney offer to "white evnagelicals" to garner their support? Nothing. Romney preached to Americans only. Romney told Americans a simple message: I will cut taxes and reduce spending, this will stimulate the economy and eventually balance the budget. It's the Dems that focus on specific subcategories of Americans. They have a different message for each American. Women: "we'll tear down the glass ceiling!" Poor: "we'll make the bankers pay their fair share so you can keep getting your entitlements!" Students: "we'll make sure higher education is affordable because you guys are our future!" Seniors: "healthcare healthcare healthcare!" Blacks: "hey guys I'm black too!" Romney had one prescription to cure the ails of all Americans. Obama divided the people and promised them that he would be Robin Hood and steal from the evil Rich to give them what they most desired. The republicans are going to need to better tailor their one prescription to each class of people if they want to compete with the divisive Democrats.

Yes very easily. I'm sorry you're unable to comprehend the math. It rivals your grasp of history: You must really suck at history if you can't remember what you posted less than an hour ago!

Really? That would require that they make a profit... if they're profitable, why are we giving them a billion dollars? Here's what their financial statements say: Try again?

No need for the tax.. the money should just come from the feds. You could build a world class subway in Toronto by cutting other federal spending by 0.5% for two years. Freeze fed department budgets for two years and there you go. It can be done easily, but the electorate has prioritized deficit reduction over infrastructure spending for now. We need more discussion (in media and among politicians) of insufficient infrastructure so that it becomes a hot-button political issue next election. Then the electorate can vote on whether to pay for new infrastructure by raising taxes or cutting bankable sick days and defined benefit pension obligations to bureaucrats. I know who I'll be voting for.

Pretty sure those companies pay taxes, they don't spend tax dollars. Care to offer an explanation of this new talking point?

As opposed to a base of dumb minorities and upper middle class 20-30 y/o living with their parents and pursuing or unemployed with arts degrees? Does that sound racist? I guess it's only ok if you're insulting the intelligence of "white folks".

Here's a history lesson for you: You must really suck at history if you can't remember what you posted less than an hour ago!

You forgot the people who didn't vote... Did you lose your commie talking points? It's more like 80% of the electorate clearly wanted anything but Harper and think he's a baby-eating monster.. Because if they didn't cast a vote for him that's the only reasonable conclusion.

According to wyly's math, no Canadian government in modern history has ever occupied the centre. Not a surprising comment coming from a borederline commie. If only we had a centrist government like Putin and Castro and the other communist dictators with 90% of the "vote".

Revenues have increased.. Just not as much as previously budgeted. Yes your post is quite a load of bunk.

Who cares about Sun News? This thread is about CBC... A PUBLIC broadcaster. You lefties are so clueless that you think you can use Sun news as a red herring to distract from the CBC propaganda machine. If so few people watch Sun News then why do you keep bringing it up? Odds are most here complaining about CBC don't watch Sun news (I don't).

Didn't you just start a thread asking where $5 billion was spent? Well $1 billion is spent on the CBC.. Keep thinking about those entitlements that you love and you'll figure out where the rest was spent.

Um they spent it on health care transfers and other entitlements?