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CITIZEN_2015

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  1. National data shows that between Dec. 14, 2020, and Dec. 18, 2021, about 80 per cent of people hospitalized and 76 per cent of people who died with COVID-19 were unvaccinated. When looking at the number of hospitalizations by vaccination status, it's important to remember that the number of vaccinated people in Canada is many times higher than the number of unvaccinated people. Only looking at the raw numbers of vaccinated and unvaccinated hospitalized COVID-19 patients is misleading:
  2. I think the push should be on better treatments for this damn virus. I hear that Pfizer's pills are about 90% effective if taken early enough. Patents should be removed for mass production of vaccines and treatments. Do you have a better solution please present it. But rejecting all available means does not solve any problem.
  3. This is the nature of virus. It mutes. We have to live based on present tense data Nobody know about tomorrow otherwise I buy the winning lottery and become a millionerd overnight.
  4. Yes study after study indicate that two dose vaccine has little efficacy on preventing infection but rather effective to reduce (not prevent) serious illness. Statistics show reducing ICU by a factor of 7 and reducing hospitalization by a factor of 3.4. Since we got fully vaccinated people 7 times the number of unvaccinated hence ICU numbers are almost equal. The good news and latest research on booster shot however shows that they appear to be even effective against infection by Omicron (I believe about 70%) up to one month after and at this time they don't know for how long this high efficacy will last.
  5. So no Omicron in Washington state!!!!!! Most recent study in England showing effectiveness of vaccines against Delta variant but also effectiveness of booster mRNA vaccines against Omicron infection https://www.gov.uk/guidance/monitoring-reports-of-the-effectiveness-of-covid-19-vaccination .
  6. In spite of virus mutations and vaccine waned most recent data from Washington State Department of Health shows highly effective vaccine results especially in vulnerable 65+ age. https://www.doh.wa.gov/Portals/1/Documents/1600/coronavirus/data-tables/421-010-CasesInNotFullyVaccinated.pdf
  7. Virus mutated and vaccines wanes both responsible for fully vaccinated to be still in hospitals even in ICU. The truth is vaccines only reduce the probability of severe disease (ICU admissions by 7 fold and hospital admissions by a factor of 3.4) and by smaller amount the infections but does not eliminate it. There is no vaccine in the world for any disease that can prevent infection 100%.
  8. So if I say being born white is not a choice this means I am saying that all white people should be put in concentration or extermination camps based on your logic?????!!!!!!!!
  9. This is the latest update. https://www.cp24.com/news/ont-says-385-covid-19-patients-now-in-icu-31-more-virus-related-deaths-confirmed-today-1.5732704
  10. Latest Ontario statistics. Ontario Health Minister Christine Elliott said of those in the ICU, 248 are not fully vaccinated or have an unknown vaccination status while 137 are fully immunized.
  11. You are disgusting. Distorting completely what I say into worst possible statement I never remotely said.
  12. It is incredible the extend to which you go to justify the unjustifiable. Being unvaccinated is a CHOICE. Being a Jew was not a choice. Nobody even remotely suggesting unvaccinated should be treated badly remotely close to how Jews were treated, however they must not be allowed to leave home and walk among innocent people including the elderly and children.
  13. Canadians are fed up and frustrated with the pandemic and refusal of a small minority to vaccinate themselves and latest updates indicates a majority of ICU beds are taken by the small minority unvaccinated people who choose not to vaccinate. Therefore the governments responded by making life harder for unvaccinated people. However, with the advent of highly transmissible Omicron that strategy may not be enough as hospitals are overwhelmed and heart and cancer surgeries are being cancelled and the nation realizes that the lives of their fellow citizens are being put in grave risk for no fault or choice of their own, the Federal government is now indicating the provinces may mandate vaccination. Great. Better late than never.
  14. The latest figures for Ontario there are 2472 covid related patients in hospitals THE MAJORITY OF WHOM ARE UNVACCINATED Global News said. Considering the the vaccinated population is 8 times that of unvaccinated, this is a significant update. Please stop campaign of misinformation. Your action may cost lives.
  15. Are you seriously impaired to understand the simpler fact that vaccinated population is 8 times higher than unvaccinated???. In spite of that the most important indicator, the ICU admission is almost equal between the two population.
  16. As I said before ICU admissions are more important than hospital beds because lack of ICU beds causes cancellation of surgeries. Hospital beds can be put in the corridors and OVER HALF OF ICUs ARE OCCUPIED BY LESS THAN 10% OF UNVACCINATED POPULATION.
  17. You are also misrepresenting the facts. And the facts are that unvaccinated people have 7 times more risk of ICU admission and 3.4 times higher risk of hospitalization but your earlier figures hide the facts stated.
  18. Putting facts to your numbers: A Star analysis of data shows unvaccinated people have been admitted to the ICU at a rate 7 times higher and in the hospital overall 3.4 times higher than people who have been fully vaccinated. Because of Ontario’s strong uptake in vaccines, fully vaccinated people account for a large percentage of the overall population. That means they would logically account for a higher percentage of people in hospital when looking at raw numbers. https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2022/01/04/ontario-reporting-1290-people-in-hospital-with-covid-19-266-in-icu-on-tuesday.html
  19. I do. I called on Federal government in February 2020 on this forum to close the damn borders and ban all entry to Canada. Those who choose to travel during pandemic stay out.
  20. Federal Health Minister just said 50% if hospitalizations in his province of Quebec are unvaccinated which is less than 10% of population but taking half the beds. He also said provinces may make it mandatory. You also forgot to mention the more important ICU numbers from your own link Unvaccinated - 119 Partially vaccinated - 17 Fully vaccinated - 106 More ICU admissions for the tiny unvaccinated from your own link.
  21. Link please as where it comes from. Also you re forgetting that the number of filly vaccinated people is over 8 times unvaccinated (82% versus 10%).
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