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Complete nonsense. They want jobs and opportunities to become taxpayers. And they want the 1% to become taxpayers too, and stop sucking money out of taxpayers. Stop corporate tax breaks, corporate subsidies and corporate fraud, and finally make corporations and wealthy predators STAND ON THEIR OWN TWO FEET, GROW UP, AND JOIN THE REAL WORLD. And it's about friggin time the whiners sucked it up and stopped blackmailing government for OUR money.

One thing I've noticed is that the real 1%'rs are taking notice and, I suspect, being much more careful about their predatory practices.They are more aware and more interested in the conversation than some un-1%'rs who aren't in a position to change anything, but just continue to parrot the mantra they've been given. I don't see you as part of the real conversation, Shady. Your comments will change as you are given new mantras, but you aren't a real participant.

I've seen this claim made before about Omar, but can you provide quotes, examples of his "hate-filled warrior zealot" attitudes? I haven't seen evidence of that yet.

The official 'Mideast peace process' seems to me to be bogged down in historical and ongoing recriminations, roadblocks and ultimatums. It's nice to see Palestine playing hardball and going outside of that ineffective process. While UNESCO is not the UN per se, it is influential and it's good to see this happen. Other developments ... the UN itself is starting to play hardball with Israel too: Palestinians feel growing alienation towards the Oslo process," said Robert Serry, the UN specia coordinator for the Middle East peace process. "I hear many voices in Ramallah that call for the dismantling of the PA and to throw the keys back to Israel." "I don't want to sound apocalyptic- but if things go wrong don't expect the international community to bail you out," Serry said in an interview with Haaretz on Friday in his office in the UN headquarters in Jerusalem "We will not pay the bill." http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/un-envoy-israel-must-take-abbas-threats-to-dismantle-pa-seriously-1.392854 That's the first time I've heard that message clearly.

Ya that would be you, Argus.Enough of your whining and just man up and deal. Canada isn't what you thought ... Get over it.

I'm waiting for more info about THIS, blueblood ...

12. What HE said.

You guys don't seem to understand the topic of this thread. It's about Harper expecting the private sector to suck it up and pay the government's portion of funding for charities and nonprofits.

This topic deserves discussion RR.Please start a new thread for it as it's just a 'derail' in this thread. Ah ... I see you did here

How about talking more about this, bb.It's related to the topic ... in fact it's the core of the reason for the OCCUPY movement, the corruption of government and law to serve the 1%, wealthy political 'contributors'. Please share more info about how this works - ie, how smaller businesses are tied up in red tape designed to benefit wealthy political financiers. How does it work? Give us an example ...

How 'bout starting a thread for that then.

No, silly is too kind. It's disgusting.I think this is where I say 'They should be happy to have a job', and a GOOD one at that, because of the union contracts. How 'bout this example: You are free to invest yourself, or pay Kevin O'Leary's fees for his help. What you can't do is invest yourself and demand the same returns as his clients, without paying him. Unions provide a service that costs money. If you want the benefit of collectively negotiated contracts, you pay for the service. If you don't want to pay, you look elsewhere for work. No one is FORCED to work in a union environment. Usually they choose to because of better pay and benefits. They don't get those 'returns' for free. Ask Kevin O'Leary if he'll invest your money for free.

You're being disrespectful and ridiculous.No one's stopping anyone from working where they choose: Low paid private schools with no unions and no benefits, or the better working conditions in public schools due to unions and collective bargaining. What they can't do - and most conservative anti-union union member whiners want - is have the benefit of union collective bargaining without paying the costs of having someone negotiate that. They're just basically tightwad cheapskate whiners no matter what their situation, and a very small minority, the first at the trough, first to complain, last to take any responsibility for themselves, or make any choices that improve their situation, like working elsewhere. They'd be whining cheapskates no matter where they work.

They're free to work in private schools and bargain for themselves. It's a choice.

... that would be the despised "red tape" ... and it favours some ... contributors. Mhm ... could do with a lot less of that.

Um ... pretty out to lunch bb ... in fact ya ... totally. Nobody's keeping anybody out. We have a right to bargain collectively.

These are not public services.They're private charities and non-profits that currently get some gov funding. Harper is planning on pulling the public funding and expecting the private sector to pick up the slack. I'm wondering what people think of that, whether they're willing to provide - as charity - the stable funding that (eg) women's and men's shelters need.

Like I said ... if the 1%'rs are taking notice, taking it seriously, that's good. He did do it civilly. But I don't agree with his position on income taxes he shouldn't have to pay. Narcissists think they are solely responsible for their successes with no regard for what their nation does for them. They resent paying the costs of doing business. And as he says, the politicians have to change the laws to keep dogs like him on short leashes. And they need to get the 'political will' to do it from all of us, including the 1%. So Wall Street is the place to get their attention ... and it's working.

He didn't go there to talk with people. He went to talk AT them. He pretty much calls himself a dog in a trash can - ie, he'll do anything he can get away with. He's daring occupiers to demand changes in the laws (to keep him and other dogs out of our trash can) because he knows the politicians are bought and won't do a damned thing the 1%'rs don't tell them to do. He resents every tax dollar he pays because he thinks he "earned" every penny but he has no regard for the country that made that possible. If he's such a high-flyer, he can raise his rates to cover more taxes. However those kind of narcissists don't comprehend that they "earn" because their country affords them that opportunity. He writes about how he and the other 1%'rs can ..."Profit from the economic collapse". Think they wouldn't cause a collapse if they knew they could make megabucks? Of course they would!! Which was my point previously: Predators make megamoney off our public debt. If the dogs will get in any trash can they can, why wouldn't they cause recessions so they can make money? Of course they would. As for this ... Such crap! It's faulty logic. The government collects income taxes on earnings, whether he likes it or not. We don't CARE whether he likes it or not. He's a predator, exactly the kind who needs to be reined in. And the kind who needs to take notice ... and obviously is.

I don't care if people earn more money than me. I'm retired and richer in life than anyone still slugging it out. I don't envy wealth. They'e not having any more fun than me. I do resent the wealthiEST 1% taking huge profits from public debt, during lean times, and not contributing back (in taxes) proportionately in the good times. That's how they are increasing their proportion of the wealth ... unfairly. Umm ... no one's suggesting income equality across the board. That IS pure nonesense. Fairer taxation to pay public costs ... for the public infrastructure that allows business and industry to I'm just suggesting that the richest 1% stop sucking off the public teat, and contribute their fair share ... which is much more than the 10-20% they currently pay in income tax. The wealthiEST 1% live off us taxpayers ... ALL of the rest of us. They don't contribute their share in taxes so they can put us in debt, so they can collect the interest ... from ALL of the rest of us. They're welfare fraud cases on the biggest scale. And we're ALL their puppets, especially you Shady.

And Harper is doing so ... segue back to current Canadian topic, which is not hypothetical but important to "businesses and citizens" who are to take over government's (former) portion of funding of nonprofits and charities ... From the OP link, Ottawa is conducting a sweeping overhaul of the way it finances charities and non-profit organizations, pledging a new era of accountability n which businesses and citizens shoulder more of the cost of giving.

In fact, I didn't even hear him tell them to leave. I think that might be the first step, before calling 911. Robfuckingford is good entertainment ... but that's all.

Corporate taxes should be higher to allow for savings to take us through lean times without debt and paying interest on that debt. The rich profit most during lean times because public debt is high. If the richest 1% were paying their fair share, we wouldn't have a huge and growing gap between them and the rest of us.

He don't need no stinking "clear" name !!!!! He's ROBFUCKINGFORD !!!!!!! Lmao some more!

Did they keep people alive?But I agree that debt TO THE BANKS is wrong. We should be planning ahead, keeping corporate income taxes high during the better times to be prepared for the low ends of cycles. But they don't because the banks wealthy investors stand to reap megaprofits off the public debt, And thus the recession-suction of wealth from the rest of us to the 1%, Rinse and repeat ...