WWWTT

Ya actually, in reality, the communist socialist party of China has saved and improved hundreds of millions of lives all around the world! But I don't find it offensive that it was compared to a Sasquatch story because this is a debate site and I am fully aware that this is all that you guys have left. WWWTT

Ya, so what? One case in a country with a population of 1.4 billion people. Ever heard of Guy Paul Moran? WWWTT

Ya actually, when your government delivers surplus growth for almost 40 non stop years (many of those in DOUBLE DIGITS!!!), I can see why their critics here have nothing left but comparing to Sasquatch stories. That's all you got hey buddy? WWWTT

You guys really find a spelling error funny?. Really? WWWTT

Ya, so what? Your a socialist now? Really? Really? But meanwhile, back in Canadian politics you're anti union. WWWTT

Oh you mean a PRIVATE class action suit when the government doesn't lay any charges or makes any convictions and the victims have to take on the burden/expense themselves? That's why the lawsuit went from 350 million to less than 10% settlement. Oh ya 4 years later!!! WWWTT

Not really. There's bill C-377 which is apparently re introduced into the senate that will put all unions in a weak position. WWWTT

Complete nonsense! Oh where to start? WWWTT

Complete nonsense! I'm sure you have a link to back it up. WWWTT

Citizens have no rights against corporations in China???? Are you sure about that? http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CCgQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.theguardian.com%2Fworld%2F2009%2Fjan%2F22%2Fchina-baby-milk-scandal-death-sentence&ei=ByEzVJu5GYOayQSL4IIw&usg=AFQjCNHDxwH38tbN5km1X5jYHdEfo93hXg&bvm=bv.76802529,d.aWw&cad=rja I think you are confusing China with Canada where the wealthy get to walk as long as they can sign a cheque http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CB8QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2F2008_Canada_listeriosis_outbreak&ei=yCEzVJ7WNM61yASyloKoDg&usg=AFQjCNFAvO_gSKH5nJYRxumCRTminRJIbQ&bvm=bv.76943099,d.aWw&cad=rja Fair justice system in China is what it looks like to me! WWWTT

So when was the last time you took part in a protest? Out in the streets? Honestly. You are aware that you do not need belong to the communist party to vote at municipal elections in China, or no? Furthermore, all in China are free to join the communist party, where you CAN become involved in politics and become a politician. You are also aware that when you vote in Canada, your vote has the exact same weight as every other person, regardless of how much you educated yourself, regardless how much you learned the issues. If you vote NDP and I vote conservative, both our votes just cancelled each others out. To me that is just a waste of time since there is little to no requirements required to vote. As far as corporations go, you can start a business. But maybe they don't have rights there as they do here. And I agree they are more heavily regulated. So as far as I'm concerned, that's BETTER for the average citizen!!! Their judicial system as far as I can tell treats everyone fairly. i don't think there are any judicial systems in the world that are free from flaws. Just as Guy Paul Moran! As well, politicians do jail time just like businessmen! How many here do? And finally, there are many foreigners that live in China! I met very many! I am also one of them! WWWTT

It's pinyin, not pidgin. Lot easier to translate than Chinese radicals/characters. So if you have some time, you can try. Also, I never started it. I was trying to have a good debate here. Not my fault you find my claim (or others here) that the Chinese have more rights than most westerners crazy. That's just something that I found and expressed. If you want to call someone, or imply that someone is stupid for expressing their opinion, then we got a problem don't we! WWWTT

Lot more than thought went into the comment. Was there 6 times over 5 years and met many people and learned the language. Have many friends, learned many customs and seen lots of the south traveling. Also learned much Chinese history, but still way more out there to learn. This experience destroyed lots of western stereo types! WWWTT

This was not my experience when I was last there back at this years new year (year of the horse by the way). Everything is noticeably more expensive! When I say everything, I'm referring to clothing, food (consumer goods I guess) taxi's, restaurants, etc. Some people there mentioned that it is the intent of the government to see wages increase. And our way flight back from Nanning Guanxi to Shenzhen Guangzho, I met this guy from London England whom has a Chinese wife as I from Nanning on the plane. He has an importing company, and he told me the same story. He even went farther and said that his profit margins are now getting slimmer because of the upward push on wages throughout the entire country. Unfortunately that was the extent of our conversation. I believe this is to strengthen the domestic market. I can't respond to what you are talking about a politicians salary. Can you provide a link? I know a government job is good there, but a government job is good here too! WWWTT

I'm not retracting anything you sad PISS POOR DEBATER! Try improving your debating skills for a few more years and then we'll talk! Oh wait, you've made more than 20 000 and you still haven't improved?!?!?!?! Sad buddy, you're real sad! WWWTT

What a load of stupid garbage! And who are all these tens of millions of dead people? Typical garbage BS link that only YOU, a PISS POOR DEBATER would provide! Think buddy! Think! You've got a long way to go buddy! Ruguo Ni xihuan xue Zhongwen, Wo hui jiao Ni WWWTT

Ya I guess if a chicken tries to read English, it looks like gibberish to! You don't really put much thought into your comments do you hey buddy? WWWTT

Actually if you want to be a dick head, there isn't any rules! You clearly proven that 7 comments ago! You seem to put a lot of value on being able to voice opposition on the government as evidence of freedom! Weishenme ni bu xihuan xue shuo Hanyu? Ni bu yong shuo putonghua ma? Ruguo ni xue Hanyu, keneng ni hui mingbai Zhongguoren. WWWTT

Lets move this debate back to the topic. Thank you http://www.popularresistance.org/us-role-in-occupy-central-exposed/ WWWTT

Sorry but I had to change the hard drive on my computer and I lost my simplified Chinese writer. So I have to resort to using pinyin form Chinese writing. But I believe that should answer your question. WWWTT

Oh ok so when I made this comment, I get this http://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums/topic/23917-rob-ford-abdominal-tumor/page-4#entry996900 But somehow the rules change when you discuss China hey. Not just that, the Chinese system is different from ours and there are different procedures. Not China's fault that you haven't taken the time to understand their history and political system. But why would they care anyways? You don't live their or have any interest there. WWWTT

So if I made the same comment about the US or Canada would you ask me for a link to prove it? WWWTT

Wo hui shuo putonghua. Erqie, Wo qu guo Zhonguo hen duo ci zhu zai nali. WWWTT

http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CB8QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FCriticism_of_Amnesty_International&ei=-n0wVK_3KMqQyATdqIHQCw&usg=AFQjCNH0xYqEsiZ6Jd_2OJGfZo-22iAckA&bvm=bv.76802529,d.aWw http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&ved=0CD4QFjAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ngo-monitor.org%2Farticle%2Famnesty_international&ei=-n0wVK_3KMqQyATdqIHQCw&usg=AFQjCNGynH8AH2oYpk9X3URLvSRMVslvPg&bvm=bv.76802529,d.aWw&cad=rja And then this one http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&ved=0CDAQFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.macleans.ca%2Fpolitics%2Fottawa%2Fkenney-vs-amnesty-the-case-against-amnesty-international%2F&ei=-n0wVK_3KMqQyATdqIHQCw&usg=AFQjCNEXasK-c3HHMeRARO9Hj4BwaBat3A&bvm=bv.76802529,d.aWw&cad=rja I posted these links because it clearly shows that Amnesty international is not without criticism. And then this taken from your link A number of cases where innocent people were sentenced to death or executed became heated topics of public debate, putting pressure on the authorities to address the issue. Heated topics of public debate? China is having "heated topics of public debate". Is that a good thing or is that a bad thing? Hears a little history http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&ved=0CDoQFjAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Focw.mit.edu%2Fans7870%2F21f%2F21f.027%2Fopium_wars_01%2Fow1_essay01.html&ei=7YQwVOmQI4WGyQTd5YDgDA&usg=AFQjCNFB3RXqDkcWJ8kiBb53Q01MYGQcJg&bvm=bv.76802529,d.aWw&cad=rja http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=6&ved=0CEAQFjAF&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sacu.org%2Fopium.html&ei=7YQwVOmQI4WGyQTd5YDgDA&usg=AFQjCNE0LarS-fvqQ8ybqF2fEjiOI9x5pg&bvm=bv.76802529,d.aWw&cad=rja Some people here are writing as if they are under the impression that affairs in China used to be way better! And this simply was never the case.(unless you go back several hundreds of years ago and compare their affairs to other regions of that time) China is a unique country with a unique history that has influenced it's peoples to make serious changes and considerations. Thank you Michael Hardner for providing your link that shows that China is slowly mitigating(baby steps) in the right direction. WWWTT