Derek 2.0

There is zero indication Harper would have supported such a mission.

You're basing this on what? Not that it maters, because your go to distraction (But Harper did it!!!!!) is exactly that.

Your point? The Conservatives (and the Liberals) never promised a costly open ended European vacation........yet the Liberals are doing exactly that.

I have no idea, Harper's government sent limited resources to both Europe and the Middle East........I've seen zero indication that the previous Government would have embarked on a costly open ended (re)deployment of Canadian Forces to Europe........... But of course, Harper is not the Prime Minister.

Its also a reality that the US asked us to conduct airstrikes against the Islamic State, yet Trudeau thought outerwise..............that doesn't fit with your truth deficient narrative......likewise, the President of the United States urging Canada to vastly increase defense spending

Uh.....what about the deployment of a battlegroup to Europe? You know, what we're talking about.

I'm sure the deployment of Canadian troops overseas crossed Trudeau's desk.............as to "Harper would of done this", there is no evidence of that. The Harper Government had army centric training mission in both Eastern Europe and Iraq, the Trudeau government decided to expand them both well not increasing the budget.

None of that maters, this is just Liberal window dressing, such a force could very well embolden Putin more if he actually desired to move on said Eastern NATO members. So Trudeau went after Harper for "whipping out our Hornets" in the fight against ISIS, yet he is attempting to do the exact same thing in Europe with Putin?

It tastes like dated and incorrect news, as several of said companies have denied anything of the sort. I never said they held all the good cards, but the advantage is clearly theirs.......a trade deficit can't be denied. NATO doesn't have a first use nuclear policy........none the less, after the United States, the British military is the most capable and experienced in all of NATO.......note that the British, and not the French, will be leading one of the multinational brigades in Eastern Europe. Farage and UKIP are no longer relevant.

I see the Trudeau Government is "whipping out" a token force for NATO: A serious step? I'm sure Putin is shaking in his boots. So I take it, the Trudeau defense review is complete? Does that include a more than doubling of the defense budget to come close to reaching the pledged 2% of GDP spending as recently noted by President Obama? Why does this remind me of when PM PET, under pressure from NATO and the US, agreed to up our NATO commitment in the form of Norwegian reinforcement........in reality, the Trudeau government's Norwegian defense amounted to a several parking lots worth of rusting Korean war surplus jeeps and trucks deposited in Norway.......and a promise to fly Canadian troops to Norway via commercial charters in the advent of war with the Soviets.

The United Kingdom's largest banking clients are in the United States, Asia and the Middle East......The UK still has a massive trade deficit with the EU, hence by the numbers, the EU would be hurt more.........of course Brexit won't result in either camps economic skies falling. I don't know the reason for your link, its behind a paywall......by all means, quote something from it if you wish to address it. That makes zero sense........the UK hasn't suggested its relations with NATO would be changed one bit.....I doubt the Germans, nor anyone else in the EU, is going to tell the UK to take its nuclear umbrella and go home It won't come from France either, as the current administration doesn't have a hope in hell of being reelected......the French could very well elect their own Euro-skeptics, which are competitive in early polling. Why? Are you suggesting there aren't any racial tensions in Europe proper?

If you can, do it quick.....the prices are skyrocketing here....Victoria north to Campbell River are going up, up and up. After Vancouver and Toronto, I think Victoria just nudged into the third most expensive market in Canada.

The UK has a trade deficit with the EU, namely the Germans and French......inversely of their five largest partners that import UK goods & services, three aren't even in the EU (USA, the Swiss and Chinese).

Exactly, which is why the serious EU economies aren't suggesting tariffs, and they will bargain or see their own economies cratered.

The thing you're waxing over is that the UK has a trade deficit with the EU.........any (WTO defined) tariffs would be met with the same......the UK is one of the biggest markets for German goods, and is why the Germans are taking a far more diplomatic approach.

Johnson threw in the towel because he was outflanked and sandbagged by Micheal Gove (In true Shakespearean fashion), who Johnson thought was his biggest backer within the Tories, all the while Gove (and his wife) were gaining the support within the party establishment.........Gove was able to do so through using Johnson's own words and painting Johnson as a "leave" moderate that would seek Free Trade with the EU for the free movement of people. And I doubt the status-quo will continue.......once the Tories select a new leader.

No we're not old enough for White Rock yet, the Rock as in Vancouver Island.....plenty of ambiance, mucho British style, in Victoria proper. We were in Maillardville Coquitlam (Coquitlam-Burnaby-New West area) Cardero's is on the water in Coal Harbor........great seafood, more an oyster bar.....lots of good beer and wines.....its slightly expensive, my wife and I could have a really good meal, desert and a couple of drinks for ~$100-150 Monk's was/is in False Creek (South Side) on the water.....it was expensive and yuppie trendy, but really good seafood. Bridges (I'm sure its still there) is on Granville Island (under the bridge), they have lots of local beers and pub area with your standard (but really good) pub food, then a dinning room with your oysters, salmon, etc etc. Really good food, and not too expensive for Vancouver, about ~$20-40 for a quality plate (more for Lobster). Between the Boathouse and Rosa's (the best Italian food in the Province!!!) we were down there a couple of times a month when we lived just up in Coquitlam.....I love their crab and lobster ravioli!!!

Port Moody and ambiance.....never heard those two words in the same sentence I will try the others though and I look for Yellow Dog over here on the Rock. For "ambiance", when we lived over there, we'd often go to Cardero's, Monk's (before it closed) or Bridges.......for us, because we're old you see, when we'd venture into town (from Coquitlam) we were often going to a show (Stanely/Arts Club, QE, Orpheum etc)........... But for actual ambiance, I'm not sure if its still there, we use to go to Samba's Brazilian steakhouse.......felt like you were in a gangster hangout from Godfather...live music, dancing girls with plumage and like a dozen different types of meat and cheapo Brahma (not bad pale lagers)...

And to add for those he felt the SNP was going to be able to easily leverage Brexit to gain FREEDOM for Scotland:

I would have liked Cameron to stay, but he'd intended this mandate to be his last anyways.....one thing with British politics, unlike Canadian or American, is that they don't tend to stay on after their best before date, likewise have no qualms with resigning when they feel their actions (or inaction) has or will hurt the party, government and country. Corbyn appears to be the exception to the rule.

That should be no surprise, Crosby made Johnson the Lord Mayor of London....

My wife and I went to Twin Sails a few months back and really enjoyed their Pilsner.....luck would have it, we found a little liquor store in Victoria that stocks it.......I'll give the other breweries a shot next time I'm over......great locations, and only a block from Rosa's.

Exactly, likewise the suggestion that the UK will suddenly loose its centuries hold on the financial and international services industry.......why would a company like Lloyds pull-up stakes and move to a France when they make their money in North American, Middle Eastern and Asian markets? At the end of the day, the international language of business is English, not Spanish, French or German..... Outside the EU, such British companies will be able to directly compete, internationally, unfettered from EU protectionist policies........

Absent a Free Trade deal and access to the UK market, the German economy will tank faster than the British........simply put, the UK is one of the biggest markets of German produced consumer goods, everything from cars, kitchen appliances to electronics.

And who is our largest trading partner, and with said partner, do we currently have a trade deficit or surplus? Our economy's growth decreased with the reduced price in oil (as did the CDN dollar), evidence that commodity trading and our dollar are linked......and of course the decline in both started under a Federal Conservative and Alberta PC government........ Our dollar wouldn't be "too high" sans a dramatic increase in the price oil..........hmmmm.....almost like the price of oil, the Canadian economy and the dollar are directly correlated with each other.......... As to the United Kingdom, the Pound is free falling, in an economy that relies heavily on international services and to a lesser extent oil and petrochemical exports.......odd that nobody is suggesting a decreasing pound will be an economic boon to the UK.