Derek 2.0

But the same can be said of any law no?

I'll stop you right there.........what you're describing is domestic surveillance by such agencies........There are no restrictions on the NSA preventing it from collecting any form of Canadian communications (barring communications between someone in Canada and the United States), nor on the inverse are there restrictions on CSEC from doing the like with American communications (barring communications between someone in Canada and the United States). Not CSIS, but CSEC...........As I said, CSEC won't collect your (Canadian) data, the NSA can and does. If you're content with that, what is there to worry about? Who regulates and taxes private industry?

Yes and no. Yes in that it limited him in the types of firearms he was able to acquire legally, no in that (like most gun related crimes in Canada) he was still able to obtain a firearm illegally.........clear as mud?

Exactly, alterations to the laws would allow such agencies to make more effective use of said information.

Indeed, sounds like a jilted high school romance........between cousins.

And/or further promote safe storage of firearms within the home.

You're confusing CSIS with CSEC..........As stated in a thread from several years ago, collection of Canadians electronic communications is already a reality, it just collected (without a warrant) by the Americans, British, Australians and New Zealanders........said data can be legally given to Canadian agencies, but can't be used in a court of law, because it was obtained sans a warrant. What said rumored changes include, is the use of said information in obtaining a Canadian warrant......The current laws allow the Canadian Government to revoke a passport based on gathered intelligence, but Canadian agencies can't use said information to detain said suspect.

CSIS is already allowed to gather intelligence on Canadians overseas and at home.

So says you!!!

Or it could have been 8 terrorists spread out among 8 targets within Canada........As potential Government targets become further hardened (like in the United States), I fully expect (and surprised it hasn't happened yet) such groups to shift their aims to softer targets like schools, coffee shops, transit hubs or shopping malls.........

Not to be flippant, but how does one obtain a warrant in a ISIS controlled region? I see granting CSIS the powers to gather intelligence overseas (in turn rewriting section 16 of the CSIS act) as a positive move, granting an allowance to gather our own intelligence as opposed to relying upon information given to us by our allies.

As stated in response to you in one of the other threads, Canadian Forces members are highly regulated with the employment of firearms, both at home and abroad.........The young Cpl was no more or no less a target than a gaggle of uniformed members waiting at a bus loop outside any base across Canada.

I suppose prejudging based on precedent is valid for some.........none the less, I'll await further information. From what is known, the additional powers to be given to CSIS (like allowance of tracking suspects overseas or informant protection) doesn't seem cause for concern.......to me anyways.

I suppose I'll take that as a compliment........

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I didn't hear that before. That's a very positive response, well symbolic in its demonstration of the distinction that must be seen between the majority of Islam and radical groups like ISIS, in which men and women from the base will be combating in short order. To add, it further speaks to the ties between a Canadian Forces Base and its surrounding community, which doesn't surprise me.......By happenstance, the current Wing Commander, was born and raised in Cold Lake.....

I don't see any reason to hide from you, I typically just don't feel your posts warrant attention, and in turn, response.

Well tabled........hence hand-wringing over laws that have yet to be written, let alone tabled or passed, is premature. Said proposed powers were given media attention prior to the attacks, now post attack, I'm certain they will draw even further scrutiny as a result of said attack.

From the linked article: I fail to see how this changes the narrative..........Do you?

I agree, but clearly there must be a balance.......Of course said balance is often the point of contention between varying views be it not only "terrorism", but encompassing topics like personal drug use/gun control/pit-bull control/fatty foods etc etc etc......... I agree largely. To an extent, but (and I stand to be corrected once the Government's plans are known) proposed changes like allowing CSIS the ability to track suspects abroad or grant further protection to sources in court (as is currently done with criminal informants) does not sound unreasonable. Likewise, if the Government is able to revoke Passports (as current) based on a potential security threat, shouldn't laws preventing the RCMP to further detain/interview said suspects be amended? Again, I'll await until the proposed changes are known though........

Outside failed states like a Somalia, I agree.

Such countries don't have laws that some would consider curtailing "Freedoms"?

Countries such as?

I think many differing religions, including Islam, offer programs to those with substance abuse problems.........As quoted in numerous media reports, Bibeau himself stated his turn to Islam had helped him contend with his drug related problems.

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