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Omni, please, can we stick to space exploration?

I see, so now the apparent literati here is pleading ignorance of any associations between drinking hot blood, Shakespeare and Jews? That's hilarious. Remember saying this? Maybe you should follow your own advice.

Show me the checkpoints in Canada. Show me the walls that cut into communities in Canada. Show me highways that are non-indigenous only in Canada. Show me carpet bombing of the indigenous in Canada. Show me restriction of movement in Canada. Show me daily burning of fields and crops in Canada. Show me prison time for the indigenous for posting on facebook in Canada. Show me restriction of immigration and emigration for the indigenous in Canada.

So , is it only West Jerusalem considered the capital? Or are they considering ALL of Jerusalem as the capital.

The world endangered by a coke-‘n-cable TV addict Americans elected as their leader — what he does so do his followers: drink coke, watch TV, and slumber through their wretched lives as hazardous waste to the environment — The number one hero of Zionists in the White House is a sick psychopath who sees the world through the hallucinatory smokescreen of fake fizzy bubbles and fat and vulgar lies — Israel and Trump are a match made in hell —

Feel free to educate me about what eating blood has to do with retaliation in the context I used it in. I thought sapper's attempt to be disingenuous was pathetic but before you carry on any further - you don't think this made it pretty clear who and what was under discussion? You see the little back arrows in the upper right hand corners of quoted text boxes? You should use them now and then.

Then you have no 'solution'. You're just helping to conserve the present situation with a claim that no one can do anything about it. Just ignore this thread then. It's intended to discuss IF we 'can' do something given any hope to do anything. Otherwise we may as well be talking about whether Atlantas citizens should permit Plato to speak on its behalf.

Why the need to go back so far to try to justify the ugly actions by the colonial power? A better solution, or the eventual solution will be what happened a lot more recently. Which is when a racist colonialist power was pushed aside in South Africa.

I respond. It's hard to debate with you because you ARE an Israeli supporter AND with a more personal interest because of your own emotional connection as being Jewish related. When some case is brought before a court about some crime involving one's personal relations, while one could be relatively fair in other issues, the family's links make them liable to act without logical reflection. You respond too defensively without realizing your biases. I understand it but cannot help if we cannot step back and look at it objectively. The maps I used shows the prior peoples in Jerusalem which shows that even the Jews were in less numbers than even the Christian presence there at a relatively recent time (people involved in those times still exist and affect the politics there!) This makes any argument about latter periods that alter the conditions moot if you argue for anything but WAR and POWER of force (might) as some right to maintain Israeli support. It is hypocritical to also support an even earlier ancient time as some just claim by Jews if they opt to selectively IGNORE what occurred in between. That is, you can't beg people have COMPASSION to defend the ancient Jewish claim of ownership when the same people ALSO argue for a NON-COMPASSIONATE right-to-might justification to ownership of that area for the Jews now. You must remain consistent: If you opt to ask for some 'right-by-justice' arguments through some compassionate expectation, you can't take its contradictory stance, 'right-by-might' arguments and expect you aren't being sincere. Because many take emotional issues on this subject for some connection to that area by some religious-cultural beliefs of their own (or some economic ones too), you will tend to ignore ANY remote arguments for your 'side' without concern for that consistency when arguing.