jbg Posted July 11, 2010 Report Posted July 11, 2010 (edited) Stories like this are making me waver in my support of fervid, fundamentalist Islam. Pakistan bomb death toll hits 102, worst this year (link) YAKAGHUND, Pakistan – As Adnan Khan sifted through the rubble in this northwest Pakistani village Saturday, his grief mingled with a sense of disbelief. Of the 102 people killed by a pair of suicide bombers here the day before, 10 were his relatives. Aunts, uncles, cousins — all perished in the deadliest attack in Pakistan this year. "People came here yesterday to receive biscuits and edible oil," the college student said. "I don't know why terrorists killed them." ******************* Sher Afzal, 22, hoped his uncle and cousin would be found. "My uncle came here to collect his national identity card (from a government office), and he is still missing with his son," Afzal said. "We have checked all the hospitals, but we could not trace them." Edited to fix typo - misspelling of "fervent" in title Edited July 12, 2010 by jbg Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Jack Weber Posted July 11, 2010 Report Posted July 11, 2010 (edited) I know why Islamofascists killed them... To bully them in true Fascist fashion into being more Islamic than they were before and stand up to the "Infidel Invaders"... Edited July 11, 2010 by Jack Weber Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
jbg Posted July 11, 2010 Author Report Posted July 11, 2010 I know why Islamofascists killed them... To bully them in true Fascist fashion into being more Islamic than they were before and stand up to the "Infidel Invaders"... I thought they did it out of concern for the Palestinians. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Jack Weber Posted July 11, 2010 Report Posted July 11, 2010 I thought they did it out of concern for the Palestinians. I think they do it out of fear of a loss of control and sadistic pleasure at watching those they feel inferior to them suffer... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
Bonam Posted July 11, 2010 Report Posted July 11, 2010 (edited) They did it because a bunch of sluts are supposedly waiting for them in heaven. Edited July 11, 2010 by Bonam Quote
Jack Weber Posted July 11, 2010 Report Posted July 11, 2010 They did it because a bunch of sluts are supposedly waiting for them in heaven. Can virgins be sluts? Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
Bonam Posted July 11, 2010 Report Posted July 11, 2010 Can virgins be sluts? Presumably their virgin nature is maintained simply by the fact that the gloried martyr has not yet arrived in their heavenly embrace. As soon as the clouds part and he enters their realm, I'm sure they are expected to throw themselves at him in a most slutty manner. Quote
Jack Weber Posted July 11, 2010 Report Posted July 11, 2010 Presumably their virgin nature is maintained simply by the fact that the gloried martyr has not yet arrived in their heavenly embrace. As soon as the clouds part and he enters their realm, I'm sure they are expected to throw themselves at him in a most slutty manner. Well,the potential actions of these "virgins" really does'nt bother me one bit...It's the method of getting there I have a problem with... A philosophical question...If one "advances" to heaven,why is a potential group sex act the highest one can aspire to? Does'nt that seem to be the antithesis of the whole notion of salvation? Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
Bonam Posted July 11, 2010 Report Posted July 11, 2010 (edited) A philosophical question...If one "advances" to heaven,why is a potential group sex act the highest one can aspire to? Does'nt that seem to be the antithesis of the whole notion of salvation? I dunno, if some afterlife were really to exist, would you prefer to spend eternity in a state of "salvation", contemplating deep philosophical truths, or would you rather be playing with a bunch of hot chicks? I think for most guys the answer would be pretty simple lol... Oh and I'm sure some 1 on 1 is available if group sex isn't one's cup of tea Heck if it really worked like that I'd be half tempted to go blow myself up right now~ The religious leaders know how to control people, promise those young aspiring martyr dudes exactly what they want most... especially after depriving them for their whole lives of so much as seeing women, which are all kept hidden away behind their religious clothing. Very neat system they've got going there. Edited July 11, 2010 by Bonam Quote
Jack Weber Posted July 11, 2010 Report Posted July 11, 2010 I dunno, if some afterlife were really to exist, would you prefer to spend eternity in a state of "salvation", contemplating deep philosophical truths, or would you rather be playing with a bunch of hot chicks? I think for most guys the answer would be pretty simple lol... Oh and I'm sure some 1 on 1 is available if group sex isn't one's cup of tea Heck if it really worked like that I'd be half tempted to go blow myself up right now~ The religious leaders know how to control people, promise those young aspiring martyr dudes exactly what they want most... I realize that,for a guy,that would seem like a "heavenly experience".However,let's assume that there is some sort of salvation...All the monotheistic faiths teach this in some form or another...Is'nt the basic act of sex,in it's purely carnal form,the antithesis of what would be taught to a pious Muslim?And is'nt that simply the trick of the charlatans that are the Islamofascists? Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
Bonam Posted July 11, 2010 Report Posted July 11, 2010 I realize that,for a guy,that would seem like a "heavenly experience".However,let's assume that there is some sort of salvation...All the monotheistic faiths teach this in some form or another...Is'nt the basic act of sex,in it's purely carnal form,the antithesis of what would be taught to a pious Muslim?And is'nt that simply the trick of the charlatans that are the Islamofascists? I dunno what you expect me to say. I think you already know that my opinion of religion in general is quite low and that I consider promises of afterlife, salvation, and eternal bliss to be a dupe. Of course I agree that these teachings, being so inherently foolish, also lack in consistency in many instances. But, as it is, it seems a very effective system to get people to do what you want. Deprive young men of even seeing women, so that they are sex-starved beyond the comprehension of most westerners, and then promise them eternal bliss in the hands of willing virgins for performing a simple task in service to their god. How could they refuse, if they truly believe? Quote
Jack Weber Posted July 11, 2010 Report Posted July 11, 2010 (edited) I dunno what you expect me to say. I think you already know that my opinion of religion in general is quite low and that I consider promises of afterlife, salvation, and eternal bliss to be a dupe. Of course I agree that these teachings, being so inherently foolish, also lack in consistency in many instances. But, as it is, it seems a very effective system to get people to do what you want. Deprive young men of even seeing women, so that they are sex-starved beyond the comprehension of most westerners, and then promise them eternal bliss in the hands of willing virgins for performing a simple task in service to their god. How could they refuse, if they truly believe? I get all that,but you've hit on it...It's the inconsistency that should have seemed obvious to these "pious" Muslims...If someone is telling you that if you kill yourself(and take a few Godless infidels with you),and you'll be able to have sex with 70 whatever virgins,should'nt a light bulb go off in the pious Muslim's head that maybe he's being sold a bill of goods that's too good to be true? And should'nt that moral inconsistency be obvious to the "pious" Muslim,so much so,that a big "Danger Will Robinson...Danger!!!" moment be taking place? Edited July 11, 2010 by Jack Weber Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
Bonam Posted July 11, 2010 Report Posted July 11, 2010 I get all that,but you've hit on it...It's the inconsistency that should have seemed obvious to these "pious" Muslims...If someone is telling you that if you kill yourself(and take a few Godless infidels with you),and you'll be able to have sex with 70 whatever virgins,should'nt a light bulb go off in the pious Muslim's head that maybe he's being sold a bill of goods that's too good to be true? And should'nt that moral inconsistency be obvious to the "pious" Muslim,so much so,that a big "Danger Will Robinson...Danger!!!" moment be taking place? Methinks you be overestimating the smarts and underestimating the faith of those who fall for it. Clearly it doesn't work on everyone. For many defenders of the faith, apparent inconsistency in a religion's teachings can be easily explained away. "God works in mysterious ways" after all. I'm sure you've heard that one before. Others are so deeply brainwashed that what to us may seem a contradiction, to them simply fails to register as such. Humans are easily capable of suspending disbelief in this way. Quote
Jack Weber Posted July 11, 2010 Report Posted July 11, 2010 (edited) Methinks you be overestimating the smarts and underestimating the faith of those who fall for it. Clearly it doesn't work on everyone. For many defenders of the faith, apparent inconsistency in a religion's teachings can be easily explained away. "God works in mysterious ways" after all. I'm sure you've heard that one before. Others are so deeply brainwashed that what to us may seem a contradiction, to them simply fails to register as such. Humans are easily capable of suspending disbelief in this way. Tell me about it... The Presbyterian Church of the USA has just decided to admit gay clergy... Talk about brainwashed humanistic moral relativists... Edited July 11, 2010 by Jack Weber Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
Borg Posted July 11, 2010 Report Posted July 11, 2010 They did it because a bunch of sluts are supposedly waiting for them in heaven. So what do the female suicide bombers get in heaven? Borg Quote
Argus Posted July 11, 2010 Report Posted July 11, 2010 So what do the female suicide bombers get in heaven? Borg Presumably a good, stern man to tell them what to do. That IS what all women want, I believe. Or at least, that's what the Imams and Ayatolas say they want. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Borg Posted July 11, 2010 Report Posted July 11, 2010 (edited) I suppose you might be correct - a woman likes a atrong man to tell her what to do and make her feel like an independant woman. LOL Borg Edited July 11, 2010 by Borg Quote
Guest American Woman Posted July 11, 2010 Report Posted July 11, 2010 So what do the female suicide bombers get in heaven? Seems to me they should get 72 virgins, just like the males. If there are females who have never had sex inhabiting heaven, I can only assume there are males who have never had sex, too. Quote
kimmy Posted July 11, 2010 Report Posted July 11, 2010 So what do the female suicide bombers get in heaven? About 20 minutes of disappointment, from the sound of it. -k Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ﾉ(° -°ﾉ)
Jack Weber Posted July 11, 2010 Report Posted July 11, 2010 About 20 minutes of disappointment, from the sound of it. -k Young men who have never had sex about to have sex with willing and available virgins.. 20 minutes?? Try about 45 seconds before they start spraying like a fire hose!!!! Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
jbg Posted July 12, 2010 Author Report Posted July 12, 2010 All kidding aside I hear the casualties are over 200. Where's the Arab wailing over these Muslim deaths? Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Jack Weber Posted July 12, 2010 Report Posted July 12, 2010 All kidding aside I hear the casualties are over 200. Where's the Arab wailing over these Muslim deaths? Whatever sympathy they might have for those who were killed has been browbeaten out of them by the Islamofascists... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
Remiel Posted July 12, 2010 Report Posted July 12, 2010 (edited) Double post. Edited July 12, 2010 by Remiel Quote
Remiel Posted July 12, 2010 Report Posted July 12, 2010 I think far too much is made of the 72 virgins line. I roll my eyes every time I hear it. And I seriously doubt that it is the major motivating factor for pretty much all but those who would count as clinically insane. Monotheistic religions are not just about getting cool stuff, they are about serving " God " . Someone who kills for 72 virgins hardly counts as a religious fanatic in my book, because they are not killing for the perceived rightness of their actions, but rather for the reward. Take a hypothetical case: Say you see someone drowning in the river, and you know if you save them you will be showered with accolades, rewardly handsomely and treated like a hero. The right thing to do is to save the person. However, if you save them because you want the accolades and rewards, you have failed at being a good person. Goodness relies on doing it because it is the right thing to do. If people are becoming suicide bombers because they want the virgins, they are in fact failing at being " good Muslims " (what they would count as good in their twisted notion of how things are). So, to harp on the 72 virgins deal is to basically say they are equivalent of being bad Muslims, unreligious, or so on. Which, I think, would be really odd, because we usually ascribe to them religious fanatacisim. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted July 12, 2010 Report Posted July 12, 2010 (edited) Seems to me they should get 72 virgins, just like the males. If there are females who have never had sex inhabiting heaven, I can only assume there are males who have never had sex, too. Yeah...here's what you get... 1. Several nerdy teenagers who aren't quite sure what to do and haven't changed underwear or brushed their teeth in a day or three. 2. Two dozen Roman Catholic priests who seem disappointed to see you. 3. A van load of 40-somethings w/ beer guts and stacks of Hustler magazines. 4. A smattering of Momma's boys who never quite moved out of the basement and always compare you to 'Mother'. 5. A nursery full of wailing male babies all needing a change and a burp. Enjoy your time in Heaven! Edited July 12, 2010 by DogOnPorch Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
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