Rocky Road Posted October 30, 2011 Report Posted October 30, 2011 Truth and Reconciliation Committee. Let's discuss the sensitive topic of Aboriginal (Indian) relations in Canada and the history of the Residential School System. More specifically, how healing and moving forward can help all those involved. Related: Atleo in China. Quote
eyeball Posted October 30, 2011 Report Posted October 30, 2011 Meanwhile in Tibet... Tibetan protests against China turn desperate as self-immolations increase Is it just me or is there something a little perverse about oppressed people seeking out a relationship with a country like China? Is Atleo out of his mind? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Rocky Road Posted October 30, 2011 Author Report Posted October 30, 2011 Ya Tibet is a sad situation. I think China looks at Tibet like a backward culture, that needs to get with the times. A bit like the bias that Aboriginal people are lazy, and prone to substance abuse. Susan Aklukark is a positive female role model. I saw her perform in Saskatchewan several years ago. Also see this page on Tom Jackson. Tom Jackson. Quote
Argus Posted October 30, 2011 Report Posted October 30, 2011 Truth and Reconciliation Committee. Let's discuss the sensitive topic of Aboriginal (Indian) relations in Canada and the history of the Residential School System. More specifically, how healing and moving forward can help all those involved. Related: Atleo in China. I turn on the tube and what do I see A whole lotta people cryin’ ’don’t blame me’ They point their crooked little fingers ar everybody else Spend all their time feelin’ sorry for themselves Victim of this, victim of that Your momma’s too thin; your daddy’s too fat Get over it Get over it All this whinin’ and cryin’ and pitchin’ a fit Get over it, get over it You say you haven’t been the same since you had your little crash But you might feel better if I gave you some cash The more I think about it, old billy was right Let’s kill all the lawyers, kill ’em tonight You don’t want to work, you want to live like a king But the big, bad world doesn’t owe you a thing Get over it Get over it If you don’t want to play, then you might as well split Get over it, get over it It’s like going to confession every time I hear you speak You’re makin’ the most of your losin’ streak Some call it sick, but I call it weak You drag it around like a ball and chain You wallow in the guilt; you wallow in the pain You wave it like a flag, you wear it like a crown Got your mind in the gutter, bringin’ everybody down Complain about the present and blame it on the past I’d like to find your inner child and kick it’s little ass Get over it Get over it All this bitchin’ and moanin’ and pitchin’ a fit Get over it, get over it Get over it Get over it It’s gotta stop sometime, so why don’t you quit Get over it, get over it Always admired the Eagles Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Shwa Posted October 30, 2011 Report Posted October 30, 2011 Always admired the Eagles Of course this song has nothing to do with Residential Schools and related matters, but is a sarcastic retort to someone who thinks themselves perfect and knows how to create a perfect world with themselves at the centre of it. "old billy" is a reference to William Shakespeare, more specifically the line in Henry VI, Part II: CADE I thank you, good people: there shall be no money; all shall eat and drink on my score; and I will apparel them all in one livery, that they may agree like brothers and worship me their lord. DICK The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers. I always admired the Eagles too, because they had a knack for pinpointing the assholes in our society. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 31, 2011 Report Posted October 31, 2011 ...I always admired the Eagles too, because they had a knack for pinpointing the assholes in our society. Good, then you'll agree with the song's sentiment that the world doesn't owe us a damn thing. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
jacee Posted October 31, 2011 Report Posted October 31, 2011 I turn on the tube and what do I see A whole lotta people cryin’ ’don’t blame me’Y Ya that would be you, Argus.Enough of your whining and just man up and deal. Canada isn't what you thought ... Get over it. Quote
Argus Posted October 31, 2011 Report Posted October 31, 2011 Ya that would be you, Argus. Enough of your whining and just man up and deal. Canada isn't what you thought ... Get over it. I don't know. I consider myself an optimist. I am eagerly awaiting the day when you contribute something intelligent to a discussion here. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted October 31, 2011 Report Posted October 31, 2011 Of course this song has nothing to do with Residential Schools and related matters, In fact, its Don Henley's demand that people stop whining about how they're such victims because of what happened long ago, and that they should just 'get over it'. I think that perfectly addresses the residential schools issue. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
cybercoma Posted October 31, 2011 Report Posted October 31, 2011 It's pretty easy to tell the disenfranchised to get over it when you're not one of them. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 31, 2011 Report Posted October 31, 2011 In fact, its Don Henley's demand that people stop whining about how they're such victims because of what happened long ago, and that they should just 'get over it'. I think that perfectly addresses the residential schools issue. 1996 was not so long ago. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Guest Manny Posted October 31, 2011 Report Posted October 31, 2011 In my experience, psychological scars takes a lot longer to heal than physical ones. Plus their children was brought up in that house where the mom or dad was abused, so they learn to live like that. It takes a lot of strength for one individual to rise above it. Quote
eyeball Posted October 31, 2011 Report Posted October 31, 2011 In fact, its Don Henley's demand that people stop whining about how they're such victims because of what happened long ago, and that they should just 'get over it'. I think that perfectly addresses the residential schools issue. Do you feel the same way about Tibet? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Shwa Posted October 31, 2011 Report Posted October 31, 2011 Good, then you'll agree with the song's sentiment that the world doesn't owe us a damn thing. When you agree that the sentiment is basically being lampooned. Or did you completely miss the reference to old Billy? Quote
Shwa Posted October 31, 2011 Report Posted October 31, 2011 In fact, its Don Henley's demand that people stop whining about how they're such victims because of what happened long ago, and that they should just 'get over it'. I think that perfectly addresses the residential schools issue. Come on Argus, only a complete babbling idiot would think like that. AS IF the affects of Residential Schools only "happened long ago." Let's put it this way, if your spouse or child happens to get viciously raped, and even murdered, come on here and we'll tell you to stop whining because it's 'all in the past' and you should "get over it." Quote
Argus Posted November 2, 2011 Report Posted November 2, 2011 1996 was not so long ago. The residential schools were closed in the '60s, often against the will of local tribes. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted November 2, 2011 Report Posted November 2, 2011 Do you feel the same way about Tibet? The mistreatment of Tibetans is ongoing. It didn't end fifty years ago. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 2, 2011 Report Posted November 2, 2011 The residential schools were closed in the '60s, often against the will of local tribes. Many were, but the last one shut down in 1996 according to Canada's state run media giant, the CBC: 1996 The Gordon Residential School, the last federally run facility, closes in Saskatchewan. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2008/05/16/f-timeline-residential-schools.html Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
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