Why I'm voting Green Party October 10th

[bush_cheney2004]

so did Rosa parks and I can see many from here pulling her off the bus to have her flogged, sorry I will just be me thanks.

Ms. Parks wasn't flogged...she was arrested, convicted and fined $14. But she never whined about the conviction afterwards...she was proud of it. Dopers could learn a lesson, eh?

[Guest coot]

But she never whined about the conviction afterwards...she was proud of it. Dopers could learn a lesson, eh?

When all your arguments have been systematically shown to be unfounded, and you've hopelessly lost a debate, I agree it's probably the most effective last resort to just say that your opponents are "whiners." If you haven't already, you might want to try that approach when debating people who are opposed to the U.S. illegal invasion of Iraq. You've long since lost that debate too, but calling them "anti-war whiners" might make you feel better.

Edited October 8, 2007 by coot

[daniel]

Though it may take 40years, right wing thought does evolve and progress. It's hard to believe how some rightwingers are now portraying Rosa Parkes as compared to they felt back in the 60s.

An ironic use of the term "whine" when in October 2006, a study released indicated that whining children grow up to be Republicans.

Also interesting this one person is the last hold-out to defend the Bush-Cheney legacy when the rest of the Party has abandoned them. It's no co-incidence the Dick Cheney may be the first Vice President to NOT run for the Presidency.

[ScottSA]

Though it may take 40years, right wing thought does evolve and progress. It's hard to believe how some rightwingers are now portraying Rosa Parkes as compared to they felt back in the 60s.

I hate to break the news to you, but it was the Democrats who fought hardest and longest against the civil rights movement. Go look it up. It only takes about ten minutes for leftwingers to revise history inside out and backwards.

[Guest coot]

I hate to break the news to you, but it was the Democrats who fought hardest and longest against the civil rights movement. Go look it up. It only takes about ten minutes for leftwingers to revise history inside out and backwards.

Those democrats were right wingers. The parties were not always polarized between left and right as they are now. You're the one revising history, or at least misunderstanding it.

[shavluk]

You don't honestly believe that there's any similarity between you and her! The law can not only be twisted to deny, but to to permit, as well. And that is what you are trying to do. Laws against drugs are created in an effort stop them from ruining society. People like you always point to the legality of alcohol and tobacco, but you always ignore the widespread problems that they cause. How many people die of cancer because of smoking, how many people are killed in alcohol related incidents? Too many. Now you want to add drugs into the mix. Usage is bad enough as it is, but once it becomes socially acceptable, then what? How many deaths will it cause? Too many more.

Stupid people want stupid laws so they can legally do stupid things.

You're not making much sense here. It seems to me that your only interest in the GP is to hijack it and change its agenda. I really doubt you can do so, the GP isn't exactly a fringe party anymore, and the leadership is sophisticated enough to recognize the problems that could result from certain kinds of people lurking in its membership.

I'm hardly impressed, and you're not exactly bullying me. I've certainly dealt with people who were considerably more astute. All you are is an erratic hothead who doesn;t care if s/he makes a fool of him or herself. Not exactly something I lose any sleep over.

I do wonder, however, just how long you will continue to grace us with you presence. My guess is not very long.

Now we are getting some where here.

Its obvious you feel as I described above.

It is a GREEN POLICY , get over it!

You are now not going to pretend that alcohol is safer illegal are you?

Laws against drugs were created only to stop either Mexican immigration or Chinese , your lack of knowledge of history and your prejudice is actually what I am seeing in your response.

The re-legalization of cannabis and other drugs acknowledges that the drugs are already there no matter how many have their heads in the sand.

THE DRUGS ARE ALREADY OUT THERE ,Sir

Children are smoking cannabis covered with RAID insecticide as we speak.

Women are captive to pimp/dealers over something we could provide for pennies.

We can quadruple the effectiveness of police forces over night and stop the billions to arming crime.

The drugs will be there and growing in power and death until we do what the GREEN Party wants to do.

Many die from cancer and never saw a cigarette in fact the internal combustion engine probably creates more damage than smoking.

If every cigarette was removed from the planet we would still have cancer as we did before cigarettes were invented.

Again alcohol is by far safer legal than not.

I am not talking about the proliferation of drugs and your fear is no reason to continue to arm criminals with large quantities of cash to be used against us.

I cant argue with someone who is in the wrong party, no point.

Maybe check the parties policies before you join.

You lack the knowledge widely available even with in the GREEN PARTY and don't know nor want to know the real history so I am sorry but I cant educate everyone.

You are exactly the type I described a few posts above and as such I can not waste more time on you.

What riding are you running in Mr Kengs333 ?

Please take the time to read the actual GREEN POLICY and why it is the right choice.

[daniel]

...You're the one revising history, or at least misunderstanding it.

Ah, revising history. Should we bring up the whole thing on the Iraq war/911 and all that?

[kengs333]

Now we are getting some where here.

Its obvious you feel as I described above.

It is a GREEN POLICY , get over it!

You are now not going to pretend that alcohol is safer illegal are you?

Laws against drugs were created only to stop either Mexican immigration or Chinese , your lack of knowledge of history and your prejudice is actually what I am seeing in your response.

The re-legalization of cannabis and other drugs acknowledges that the drugs are already there no matter how many have their heads in the sand.

THE DRUGS ARE ALREADY OUT THERE ,Sir

Children are smoking cannabis covered with RAID insecticide as we speak.

Women are captive to pimp/dealers over something we could provide for pennies.

We can quadruple the effectiveness of police forces over night and stop the billions to arming crime.

The drugs will be there and growing in power and death until we do what the GREEN Party wants to do.

Many die from cancer and never saw a cigarette in fact the internal combustion engine probably creates more damage than smoking.

If every cigarette was removed from the planet we would still have cancer as we did before cigarettes were invented.

Again alcohol is by far safer legal than not.

I am not talking about the proliferation of drugs and your fear is no reason to continue to arm criminals with large quantities of cash to be used against us.

I cant argue with someone who is in the wrong party, no point.

Maybe check the parties policies before you join.

You lack the knowledge widely available even with in the GREEN PARTY and don't know nor want to know the real history so I am sorry but I cant educate everyone.

You are exactly the type I described a few posts above and as such I can not waste more time on you.

What riding are you running in Mr Kengs333 ?

Please take the time to read the actual GREEN POLICY and why it is the right choice.

The only reason why we're not getting anywhere is because crass attitude and obnoxious taunts. Telling a history major that the "lack of knowledge of history" and then making up complete bs, is not only stupid but undermines your credibility. All you are doing with your rants is putting yourself in the league of the jennies and Posits on this forum. Posit has already, it would appear, had some time to reflect on his obnoxious conduct, and hopefully you have already received a warning. I really find it unfortunate the way that you choose to conduct yourself, and see clearly now why you were banned from other message forums. Some people never learn.

I've been a long-term Green Party supporter, although in recent years I haven't been all that happy with things and would like a more conservative alternative. You, on the other hand, have only joined the party as a last resort it looks like, after the NDP got fed up with you obnoxious behaviour. There's a surprise. So what makes you think you can go around acting like some kind of great Green Party member is beyond me. And now you think you're somehow superior because you might run in an election? Give me a break.

[shavluk]

The only reason why we're not getting anywhere is because crass attitude and obnoxious taunts. Telling a history major that the "lack of knowledge of history" and then making up complete bs, is not only stupid but undermines your credibility. All you are doing with your rants is putting yourself in the league of the jennies and Posits on this forum. Posit has already, it would appear, had some time to reflect on his obnoxious conduct, and hopefully you have already received a warning. I really find it unfortunate the way that you choose to conduct yourself, and see clearly now why you were banned from other message forums. Some people never learn.

I've been a long-term Green Party supporter, although in recent years I haven't been all that happy with things and would like a more conservative alternative. You, on the other hand, have only joined the party as a last resort it looks like, after the NDP got fed up with you obnoxious behaviour. There's a surprise. So what makes you think you can go around acting like some kind of great Green Party member is beyond me. And now you think you're somehow superior because you might run in an election? Give me a break.

No ,no warning. For what ?

I can pick out the deadheads myself so I don't need a warning.

What BS are you referring to?

I would be embarrassed saying i was a history major if I didn't know anything about the opium act of 1907 or the 1923 act that as a way of barring Mexicans from Canada resulted in cannabis becoming illegal.

The fact that you know nothing about these acts doesn't make them not part of history and if you don't know who janey canuck/emily murphy was and her significance in canada again , well its not my fault.

Look on the back of the $50 in my hand.

Many with much more qualifications than you just flipping burgers out there as I hired many.

Means nothing as far as intelligence and the richest on the planet barely finished high school if at all.

No I stand by the recorded history and here's a spot that will help you and if you still don't believe me maybe read the Canadian Senates report on illegal drugs from 2002 as I was part of the hearings.

http://www.cannabisfacts.ca/

The only reason I am even bothering educating you is because you say you are in the GREENS otherwise I wouldn't bother.

Its all out there maybe talk to some that have actually graduated and maybe they will show you where you are mistaken.

Maybe they probably don't teach this dark chapter.

My daughter teaches at a catholic high school in Calgary and she knew.(head of the English department)

Yes I know history is the view of the victor but here we have even the documentation that shows that had it happened today those in Parliament would run the risk of being charged with a hate crime with the wording that was used in the house.

here's one for you

http://www.mapinc.org/newstcl/v00/n510/a08.html

I am saddened by your obvious fearful demeanor and your obvious lack of humanity and mean spiritedness.

Again because you say you are GREEN I have been nice to you ,,but don't think I will listen to your ignorant discriminatory demeanor long without showing you my education.

You talk about my banning hahha

and yet at blogging Torries and I just checked even shavluk is unbanned and showing as a guest because the site took a nose dive as this one will if guys like me are booted ,,,,as it gets pretty boring as yes sir no sir

http://www.bloggingtories.ca/forums/topic667.html

Edited October 9, 2007 by shavluk

[capricorn]

Means nothing as far as intelligence and the richest on the planet barely finished high school if at all.

Those who barely finished high school and did not obtain degrees are called "self starters". Canada has had many self starters and they contributed greatly in many fields, especially in business. There are many self starters out there and we could use a lot more of them.

kengs is right. You're not the be all and end all of the Green Party.

shavluk, I suggest that if you really want to work to raise the Green Party's profile you should concentrate your work locally and quit challenging the posters here. You're getting nowhere and undermining the Green Party's message. Go back to basics.

[shavluk]

Those who barely finished high school and did not obtain degrees are called "self starters". Canada has had many self starters and they contributed greatly in many fields, especially in business. There are many self starters out there and we could use a lot more of them.

kengs is right. You're not the be all and end all of the Green Party.

shavluk, I suggest that if you really want to work to raise the Green Party's profile you should concentrate your work locally and quit challenging the posters here. You're getting nowhere and undermining the Green Party's message. Go back to basics.

I don't know where this got confused except in both of you twos own minds but I never ever said I was the **be all and end all of the Green Party*** .

Your insecurity doesn't speak for me please.

I am only Green and will do what I am doing until I can not any more.

I have a right to do what I do.

Others esteem issues aside as those I am attempting to help don't have the luxury of doing it themselves as they are in jail.

When I am finished I will step aside and those with better grammer, some closet smoker, can emerge from hiding and continue to do my work and have nothing to fear because of my work.

I am assuming I will now have to suffer no more of either of your two and your put downs as there will be no more reason to communicate with each other, correct?

Thank you.

Change the GREEN POLICY or leave me alone.

Try to do what I do I dare you.

[capricorn]

Change the GREEN POLICY or leave me alone.

I cannot change the green policy neither do I support the Green Party. I will leave you alone only if you promise to do the same for me.

[kengs333]

You talk about my banning hahha

http://forums.cannabisculture.com/forums/u...;Number=1330571

[shavluk]

Excuse me buddy but I am at all those sites ,,,, to this day!!!

dana larsen is a traitor to the cause and was part of my team.

He is about himself and caused harm so he is being targeted and will be decimated by the GREEN party in the next election with information I will be releasing during the campaign,,stay tuned.

All others can read it themselves here

http://forums.cannabisculture.com/forums/u...;gonew=1#UNREAD

[kengs333]

Excuse me buddy but I am at all those sites ,,,, to this day!!!

dana larsen is a traitor to the cause and was part of my team.

He is about himself and caused harm so he is being targeted and will be decimated by the GREEN party in the next election with information I will be releasing during the campaign,,stay tuned.

All others can read it themselves here

http://forums.cannabisculture.com/forums/u...;gonew=1#UNREAD

But you have been banned from them. Returning to sites where one is banned isn't exactly unheard of. The fact that you've been banned is bad enough, but that you return and pick up where you've left off... Some people just never learn. Smoking marijuana does things to the brain, you know...

Have fun running for the Green Party; you'll never get elected, and you'll only end up scaring away more moderate supporters.

[shavluk]

Better have another look at all my names here.

http://www.bloggingtories.ca/forums/topic667.html

Thanks for the vote of confidence and you will be very surprised to find I am doing quite well here with many ex-ndp and conservatives.

I will be starting my campaign to steal former liberal members this week.

I am uniting all parties and as I said I have no where to go but up.

As far as your weak spirit and fear of me and my message ,,,enjoy.

You sound like some one with just a bone to pick or some one who has lost an argument to me somewhere else besides here but like here.

Oh and thanks for all the attention and advertising.

[ScottSA]

Better have another look at all my names here.

http://www.bloggingtories.ca/forums/topic667.html

Thanks for the vote of confidence and you will be very surprised to find I am doing quite well here with many ex-ndp and conservatives.

I will be starting my campaign to steal former liberal members this week.

I am uniting all parties and as I said I have no where to go but up.

As far as your weak spirit and fear of me and my message ,,,enjoy.

You sound like some one with just a bone to pick or some one who has lost an argument to me somewhere else besides here but like here.

Oh and thanks for all the attention and advertising.

People are "losing arguments" to you and are "in fear" of you because you're going to "unite all parties?" Are you quite alright?

[shavluk]

Wonderful actually ,Thanks.

Unite them all to ending the drug war

[kengs333]

Thanks for the vote of confidence and you will be very surprised to find I am doing quite well here with many ex-ndp and conservatives.

If you really believe that, then you're much more of an..., er, naive than I thought.

I will be starting my campaign to steal former liberal members this week.

Oh, do tell! This sounds soooo intriguing. So how are you going to go about doing this? Insulting them? Accusing them of living in fear of you? Tell them sob stories from your life? Distribute fliers detailing your lengthy criminal record? I sure they will just be flocking to you in droves.

I am uniting all parties and as I said I have no where to go but up.

Your part of BC is hardly prime Green territory. Never will be with the likes of you representing the party. As for "uniting all parties"--you're delusional.

As far as your weak spirit and fear of me and my message ,,,enjoy.

You sound like some one with just a bone to pick or some one who has lost an argument to me somewhere else besides here but like here.

The difference between "fear" and "obnoxious" is quite considerable. I don't recall ever losing an argument with you. The main reason being that you've never made much of an argument about anything; you just rant and insult...

Oh and thanks for all the attention and advertising.

With your every post you just make yourself look like more and more of a fool. You're the Carrot Top of Canadian Politics.

Incidently, the likelihood of my voting GP has diminished considerably these last few days. I'll likely go with a conservative alternative.

[shavluk]

NO DOUBT !!

AS IF THERE WAS EVER ANY INTENTION TO DO OTHERWISE..

I thank you for entertaining me but now as you have dropped your Green disguise I will just now ignore.

Unless I change my mind and feel like pulling your strings some more as it so easy.

adios

[kengs333]

NO DOUBT !!

AS IF THERE WAS EVER ANY INTENTION TO DO OTHERWISE..

I thank you for entertaining me but now as you have dropped your Green disguise I will just now ignore.

Unless I change my mind and feel like pulling your strings some more as it so easy.

adios

No, I'm still Green, just a conservative alternative. I've been a Green Party member and supporter for longer than you can remember, and they will always be my first consideration in an election.

As for, "Unless I change my mind and feel like pulling your strings some more as it so easy," this is a pretty blatant admission that you're nothing more than a TROLL.

So please shut up and go away.

Edited October 9, 2007 by kengs333

[Charles Anthony]

Everybody,

Stop the personal attacks. This thread is degenerating into a painful nitter-natter session completely devoid of any political discussion.

If you have no political discussion to contribute, do not post. If you have nothing but personal attacks, do not post. If you think that somebody else is trolling or violating a forum rule, send a report and describe the context but DO NOT retaliate with insults.

[shavluk]

I apologize if I went to far and if you are GREEN I most certainly did.

I regret my style alienates you and I do blame my rape and denial of my children for 2 years and my framing by police and bankruptcy and jail.

I do realize they effect me to this day and are probably the reason I do what I do.

I apologize to you Mr. Antony as well

[Guest coot]

Did you just say you raped your children?

[kengs333]

Everybody,

Stop the personal attacks. This thread is degenerating into a painful nitter-natter session completely devoid of any political discussion.

If you have no political discussion to contribute, do not post. If you have nothing but personal attacks, do not post. If you think that somebody else is trolling or violating a forum rule, send a report and describe the context but DO NOT retaliate with insults.

And what if a report was sent...?