M.Dancer Posted September 26, 2007 Report Posted September 26, 2007 And who cares (what they're saying their goals may have been)? Did you ever ask about Alcaeda goals, maybe they are all about salvation of humankind. The fact is that dropping a bomb on an apartment building full of civilians is bound to kill civilians and shelling densly populated area with high explosives is also bound to kill civilians. The intent or at least reasonable knowledge of the effect cannot be denied, no matter how much you squirt about the "moral" goals.You said nothing to prove otherwise. I can't care less why this is done that isn't. The result is clear: demonstration of hugely superior military might to force people abandon insurgency. Otherwise, they could have used police tactics and went after specific individuals. Thanks for the admission. I guess terror can be a useful tool when it serves your purpose. Guess lacking a better argument, the last resourt is pointing finger and insult. I don't what to say.....not that you have stumped me with your intelliegnece, but I don't often come face to face with such cement headed thinking. like.... The fact is that dropping a bomb on an apartment building full of civilians is bound to kill civilians and shelling densly populated area with high explosives is also bound to kill civilians. Yes I concede that a bomb on a apartment buiding will kill lots of people. Perhaps the insurgents should use apartment buildings? Perhaps y9our example is ummm......during he entire siege of Fallujah no more than 800 civilians were killed and that nmber is contested as being grossly inflated. Considering most of the population evacated annd was allowed to evacate, your exagerated claims don't hold water. The intent or at least reasonable knowledge of the effect cannot be denied, no matter how much you squirt about the "moral" goals. These contingencies are set out in the geneva convention. If all one had to do to avoid a counter attack would be to hide in the women's dorm all attacks would be launched from the YWCA. But nothing tops the lunacy scale than this..... You said nothing to prove otherwise. I can't care less why this is done that isn't. The result is clear: demonstration of hugely superior military might to force people abandon insurgency. Otherwise, they could have used police tactics and went after specific individuals. If it was that easy, they would, but the greater chance is they are not going after as you so charmingly call "specific individuals", they are going after squads of heavily armed men.......men who would take those police and cut off their heads....... Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
M.Dancer Posted September 26, 2007 Report Posted September 26, 2007 Guess lacking a better argument, the last resourt is pointing finger and insult. While I am pointing a finger, I just can't find a reasonable and polite explanation for having such erroneous premises. Especially in the face of reasonable explanations that I have given. I suppose there is a reason you hold on to them, but I am not particulary interested in it. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
myata Posted September 26, 2007 Author Report Posted September 26, 2007 Had a feeling you would purposely and deliberately misconstrue that. I suppose for you then, spin is a useful tool when it props up your weak arguments. Go and read your own post. Perhaps, you misconstrued yourself? The rest appears to be so thoroughly devoid of meaningful argument (just "oh" and "ah"), that it doesn't really merit a response. Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
M.Dancer Posted September 26, 2007 Report Posted September 26, 2007 Go and read your own post. Perhaps, you misconstrued yourself? The rest appears to be so thoroughly devoid of meaningful argument (just "oh" and "ah"), that it doesn't really merit a response. Now I will be the first to admit you try to terrorize the enemy combatants with what ever you can, that psyops. I put it in bold because you seem unable to grasp nuance... This may come as a complete shock to you, but in combat, the goal isn't to make the enemy feel safe and cozy, but to scare the crap out of him in hopes they surrender or become ineffectual. But your fuzzy thinking seems to feel that the fight should somehow be fair inb terms of strength. And that is just plain either niave thinking. So your comment about using superior forces to terrorize civilians was addressed. How you choose to spin it is your decision, but don't expect me to pay attention to stupidity. From now one, Myata is on ignore. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Higgly Posted September 26, 2007 Report Posted September 26, 2007 M.Dancer tends to attack the poster when he runs out of arguments. Ever notice that? Quote "We have seen the enemy and he is us!". Pogo (Walt Kelly).
M.Dancer Posted September 26, 2007 Report Posted September 26, 2007 M.Dancer tends to attack the poster when he runs out of arguments. Ever notice that? I should take lessons from you. You manage to post quite well without arguments, or at least without intelligent arguments. Mind you, it helps I suppose to make stuff up, doesn't it? Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Higgly Posted September 26, 2007 Report Posted September 26, 2007 (edited) What'd I tell you? Snort. When I'm right, I'm right. Edited September 26, 2007 by Higgly Quote "We have seen the enemy and he is us!". Pogo (Walt Kelly).
buffycat Posted September 26, 2007 Report Posted September 26, 2007 What'd I tell you? Snort. When I'm right, I'm right. Indeed he just did it to me in another thread!!! You are right! Quote "An eye for an eye and the whole world goes blind" ~ Ghandi
myata Posted September 26, 2007 Author Report Posted September 26, 2007 I put it in bold because you seem unable to grasp nuance... Aha - the bomb itself will distinguish who's the combattant to terrorize and who's innocent civilian to avoid. Alcaeda will like the idea. Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
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