bush_cheney2004 Posted August 1, 2007 Report Posted August 1, 2007 [That's world net daily. The question is why did they even mention it. The answer is, because they are trying to see how far they can push it. It's quite clear the left is using Tillmans death to attack Bush and the war. It seems it is Tillmans brother and congress who started the mess in the first place, nor is there any indication Pat Tillman was against the war. In fact he joined up to go and fight in it. It's typical of the lengths the left will go to, and no lie is to big to tell. Indeed...it is as if they assume they can speak for the dead (except for the dead fetuses...we'll have none of that). The commanding officer was censured today. http://apnews.myway.com/article/20070801/D8QNSUD00.html Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
kimmy Posted August 1, 2007 Report Posted August 1, 2007 Pat Tillman was a football player, and a good one. He had already established himself as an NFL starter before his decision to leave football. He was also a literate and well-read and excelled academically as well as at football. After the events of Septemer 11, 2001, he declined a contract offer that would have paid him more money than most people see in a lifetime, so that he could join the United States Army. The first point that must be clarified is that he joined the army because he wanted to go to *Afghanistan*. Not Iraq. His decision to join the armed forces was *not* because he supported the invasion of Iraq. He joined the army a full year before the invasion of Iraq. *However* the notion that he was murdered to silence his views about the invasion of Iraq is also doubtful. As a soldier serving in a combat unit on the other side of the world, he did not have any platform from which to make such views public, if he even had them. Army officials lied about the events surrounding Tillman's death for the simplest reason: protecting their own asses. -k Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ノ(° -°ノ)
ScottSA Posted August 1, 2007 Report Posted August 1, 2007 The doctors must never have seen an M16 on full auto, kicking and bucking its way acros the sky from horizon to horizon...and that's with a 3 round burst... I tell you I have seen an M-16 on full auto and I have never seen it buck and kick from horizon to horizon. I was overstating the case somewhat. I'll try to explain these literary contrivances to you as I go along to keep you up to speed. I tell you however, that bursts are not so tight that the grouping from 30 feet away is within centimeters. On full auto it's possible to get that kind of pattern as long as you hose the target long enough like some newbie "insurgent" would, but not a 3 round burst, unless the gun is set in concrete (oh, that's another literary liberty, btw). And wouldn't it be more likely that an insurgent is using an M 16 than a Ranger? I would have thought Rangers would be the first to move up the weaponry ladder...not the last. Quote
M.Dancer Posted August 1, 2007 Report Posted August 1, 2007 And wouldn't it be more likely that an insurgent is using an M 16 than a Ranger? I would have thought Rangers would be the first to move up the weaponry ladder...not the last. I imagine some would have an M16 for operational reasons. The differnce between the M16 and the M4 are sort of like the difference between a Irishman and a Punjabi. Mainly cosmetic. One has a shorter barrel and stock and more thingy me bobs for attaching shit......both have the same breach and breach block and of course, both fire the same rounds. I was overstating the case somewhat. I'll try to explain these literary contrivances to you as I go along to keep you up to speed. How about just use italics when you are in full blown exageration mode....... Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
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