noahbody Posted May 15, 2007 Report Posted May 15, 2007 Iraq was imminent because of they had WMD. Gore says the result of global warming is comparable to nuclear war. Both were had the same objective; to motivate the masses to accomplish their end goal. They both used fear to motivate. The Iraqis would have capability to launch an attack in months. If we don't act now on global warming, we are done for. No time for debate. We must act now. Both men put their faith in questionable 'intelligence.' Bush misjudged the catastrophic consequences. The entire world was behind the States and the war against terrorism. The only catastrophic consequences to open debate on global warming is there's a chance Gore and IGPCC could look fools and lose all credibility. That's not very catastrophic in my books. But it's the same reason Bush doesn't want to admit he was wrong. Maybe Ralph Nader was the best choice. Quote
Figleaf Posted May 15, 2007 Report Posted May 15, 2007 Iraq was imminent because of they had WMD. Gore says the result of global warming is comparable to nuclear war. Both were had the same objective; to motivate the masses to accomplish their end goal. They both used fear to motivate. The Iraqis would have capability to launch an attack in months. If we don't act now on global warming, we are done for. No time for debate. We must act now. Both men put their faith in questionable 'intelligence.' Bush misjudged the catastrophic consequences. The entire world was behind the States and the war against terrorism. The only catastrophic consequences to open debate on global warming is there's a chance Gore and IGPCC could look fools and lose all credibility. That's not very catastrophic in my books. But it's the same reason Bush doesn't want to admit he was wrong. Maybe Ralph Nader was the best choice. There is just SOOO much wrong with your assumptions there -- 1. First of all, Iraq did not have any WMDs. It's astonishing you haven't heard that yet. 2. Bush did not 'put his faith in questionable intelligence'. He and his circle of advisors selected intelligence to match their goals. 3. The "entire world" was certainly not behind the United States 'war on "terror"'. And almost NONE of the world was behind the invasion of Iraq, a country with no rational connection to the 'terror' that prompted GWB into action. Quote
noahbody Posted May 15, 2007 Author Report Posted May 15, 2007 There is just SOOO much wrong with your assumptions there --1. First of all, Iraq did not have any WMDs. It's astonishing you haven't heard that yet. That's my point. But at the time, they were certain, even though there was no concrete proof, similar to Gore. 2. Bush did not 'put his faith in questionable intelligence'. He and his circle of advisors selected intelligence to match their goals. He put his faith in theory, not proof, like Gore. 3. The "entire world" was certainly not behind the United States 'war on "terror"'. And almost NONE of the world was behind the invasion of Iraq, a country with no rational connection to the 'terror' that prompted GWB into action. I should have said the majority of the world was behind the states after 911. Yes, some cheered. My point was Bush going into Iraq did help the enemy in Afganistan. Quote
M.Dancer Posted May 15, 2007 Report Posted May 15, 2007 True, almost none of the world supported the US in Iraq. Only United Kingdom: South Korea: Poland: Australia: Romania: Denmark: Georgia: El Salvador: Czech Republic: Azerbaijan: Latvia: Mongolia: Albania: Slovakia: Lithuania: Armenia: Bosnia and Herzegovina: Estonia: Macedonia: Kazakhstan: Moldova: Italy: Ukraine: Netherlands : Spain : Japan: Bulgaria : Thailand: Honduras: Dominican Republic: Hungary: Nicaragua: Singapore: Norway: Portugal: New Zealand: Philippines: Tonga: Iceland: Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Figleaf Posted May 15, 2007 Report Posted May 15, 2007 True, almost none of the world supported the US in Iraq.Only United Kingdom: South Korea: Poland: Australia: Romania: Denmark: Georgia: El Salvador: Czech Republic: Azerbaijan: Latvia: Mongolia: Albania: Slovakia: Lithuania: Armenia: Bosnia and Herzegovina: Estonia: Macedonia: Kazakhstan: Moldova: Italy: Ukraine: Netherlands : Spain : Japan: Bulgaria : Thailand: Honduras: Dominican Republic: Hungary: Nicaragua: Singapore: Norway: Portugal: New Zealand: Philippines: Tonga: Iceland: Source? Some of those I don't recall at the time. Anyway, 39 out of c. 160 isn't all that high. Quote
kuzadd Posted May 15, 2007 Report Posted May 15, 2007 Gush or Bore? NEITHER! Quote Insults are the ammunition of the unintelligent - do not use them. It is okay to criticize a policy, decision, action or comment. Such criticism is part of healthy debate. It is not okay to criticize a person's character or directly insult them, regardless of their position or actions. Derogatory terms such as "loser", "idiot", etc are not permitted unless the context clearly implies that it is not serious. Rule of thumb: Play the ball, not the person (i.e. tackle the argument, not the person making it).
B. Max Posted May 15, 2007 Report Posted May 15, 2007 Anyway, 39 out of c. 160 isn't all that high. The war on terror is still going on and will be for some time yet to come. Out of the hundred and sixty there are around six or seven I can think of off hand who are sponsors of, or harbor terrorists. Then there a few who have large enough Muslum populations that they are afraid of them. The rest are mostly nobodies anyway. Quote
White Doors Posted May 15, 2007 Report Posted May 15, 2007 Anyway, 39 out of c. 160 isn't all that high. 193 last I checked isn't it? And wouldn't that be about the same number of countries on the allies side in WW1? Quote Those Dern Rednecks done outfoxed the left wing again.~blueblood~
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