How Much for Harper's Make-Up?

[guyser]

Provide a quote of what he said about Manning.

Harper gave Manning trouble over the party paying his clothing bill. "Nor did Harper endear himself to Manning when he criticized the leader in 1994 for taking a $31,000 clothing allowance from the party.In 1997, "

Harper is paying for his own clothes, isn't he?

Did I say he wasn't ?

If she's accompanying him on trips there are flight costs, accommodation, meals, etc. So yes, the money spent to have her on staff is probably much higher.

And those have what to do with her salary/pay ?

[Michael Bluth]

Harper gave Manning trouble over the party paying his clothing bill. "Nor did Harper endear himself to Manning when he criticized the leader in 1994 for taking a $31,000 clothing allowance from the party.In 1997, "

I said...

Harper is paying for his own clothes, isn't he?

To which you replied.

Did I say he wasn't ?

So Harper complained about Manning taking money from the Reform Party for clothing. That's what you just quoted.

You called Harper a hypocrite for his complaints about Manning taking money for his clothes.

And you *aren't* saying that Harper takes money for his clothes from anybody.

So what is he hypocritical for?

[guyser]

Ok, I see where the confusion lies.

Harper was PO'd at Manning for the clothes, and now Harper is doing the same thing with the image consultant.

[Michael Bluth]

Ok, I see where the confusion lies.

Harper was PO'd at Manning for the clothes, and now Harper is doing the same thing with the image consultant.

Fair enough. But I'm pretty sure Manning had an image consultant that Harper didn't say anything about.

And I'm sure Manning wasn't paying for her services.

[jdobbin]

There is now a formal request being made to find out the stylist's salary.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/sto...y/National/home

he prime minister who made lifting “the veil of secrecy” on government operations a top priority is now being compelled through Parliament to answer questions about his personal image adviser.

The NDP submitted a formal request through Parliament on Thursday to determine how much public money Stephen Harper spends on the assistant, after the Prime Minister's Office ignored requests for details.

The government has acknowledged only that the former CBC makeup artist is paid with taxpayer money.

A government official justified the refusal to provide more details by saying accountability is meant to prevent people from stealing, and was not intended to apply to staffing issues.

New Democrat MP Judy Wasylycia-Leis tabled a question on the parliamentary order paper that requires the government to respond in writing within 45 days. If the government does not respond, the issue will automatically go to a parliamentary committee for study.

Perhaps we will get an answer to this curious spending.

[Michael Bluth]

There is now a formal request being made to find out the stylist's salary.

Perhaps we will get an answer to this curious spending.

Curious spending?

Do explain how it's curious.

This "formal request" is quite the big deal. If there isn't a formal response in 45 days it goes to a committee for further study.

The blinding speed of Government!

[hiti]

“We must clean up corruption and lift up the veils of secrecy that have allowed it to flourish,” Mr. Harper said a year ago.

Steve really should fire her.

http://www.insurancebroadcasting.com/040306-p5.jpg

And lose 50 pounds and the mascara. Wonder if Ms. Muntean uses VolumeExact by Cover Girl.

"A government official justified the refusal to provide more details by saying accountability is meant to prevent people from stealing, and was not intended to apply to staffing issues."

Stealing bad. Lying okay.

[Topaz]

Harper would never have stood for this from Chretien or Martin. Never, ever.

Not for a lot of things he himself presently does but he is more Georgie style, do as I tell you and never mind what I do. Steve thinks he is above everything and he shouldn't be questioned about anything. And the Stevie's think the Liberals were arrogant? Double standard is the name of their game it seems.

I can understand Harper wanted to look his best and it was said the Cons, themselves are paying for it. I wish they would pay for Baird's hair remake and why does the one minister wear such dark glass? Is she blind?? Has other eyes problems??

[Michael Bluth]

I can understand Harper wanted to look his best and it was said the Cons, themselves are paying for it. I wish they would pay for Baird's hair remake and why does the one minister wear such dark glass? Is she blind?? Has other eyes problems??

The Minister is Diane Finley. She is not blind. She has Graves Disease. One of the symptoms of the disease is sensitivity to light.

[cybercoma]

Who does pay for that crap? When I'm paying damn near 30% of my income between sales and income taxes, I want to know where my money goes.

These "image" consultants must have also worked for other politicians, like Paul Martin and Jean Chretien. Who paid for them in those days?

If I wanted to vote for Paul Martin, I would have voted for him. Instead, I voted Tory - and I got Paul Martin. Is that your argument?

Sorry, I'm not always clear.

My point is, why is this an issue with Harper? When Paul Martin was Prime Minister and when Jean Chretien was Prime Minister, did they not have "image consultants" or some other person or team that got them ready for public appearances?

I'm going to speculate that they did.

So, my point is that this isn't a 'Stephen Harper' thing, but perhaps a Canadian Federal Government thing that needs to be examined. It seems hypocritical to rake him over the coals for this, but it was never a problem for other politicians.

[Michael Bluth]

So, my point is that this isn't a 'Stephen Harper' thing, but perhaps a Canadian Federal Government thing that needs to be examined. It seems hypocritical to rake him over the coals for this, but it was never a problem for other politicians.

That's the key. Goes to show how patently weak the Liberals are. And their supporters.

Because Adscam and the RCMP investigation were major factors in their loss in 2006 they are lamely trying to argue that the Conservatives should be above any semblance of reproach on *everything*.

The best they can come up with is a personal stylist.

If that's all Canadian's have to complain about with their PM they aren't that bad off.

I guarantee she isn't making $1.14 million...

[hiti]

Sorry, I'm not always clear.

My point is, why is this an issue with Harper? When Paul Martin was Prime Minister and when Jean Chretien was Prime Minister, did they not have "image consultants" or some other person or team that got them ready for public appearances?

I'm going to speculate that they did.

So, my point is that this isn't a 'Stephen Harper' thing, but perhaps a Canadian Federal Government thing that needs to be examined. It seems hypocritical to rake him over the coals for this, but it was never a problem for other politicians.

You know what happens to those who speculate... ass/u/me......

Martin and Chretien did not, I repeat DID NOT, have image consultants. They only used make-up artists when required to appear on tv or commercials.

I am always truly amazed at the twists that Harperites will get themselves into to justify just anything from their master.

[Michael Bluth]

Martin and Chretien did not, I repeat DID NOT, have image consultants. They only used make-up artists when required to appear on tv or commercials.

Proof?

Source?

Or are we just supposed to take your word for it?

[cybercoma]

You know what happens to those who speculate... ass/u/me......

Martin and Chretien did not, I repeat DID NOT, have image consultants. They only used make-up artists when required to appear on tv or commercials.

I am always truly amazed at the twists that Harperites will get themselves into to justify just anything from their master.

I said I wasn't sure, what more do you want?

Harper's appearance at Vimy Ridge and the G8 summit was on the news, so does that count as TV appearances?

I'm not trying to justify anything for Harper. I think it's stupid that we pay someone to make him look (subjectively) "good". I also think it's stupid that someone would be paid to do the same thing for other politicians that have held the same position.

[Michael Bluth]

I said I wasn't sure, what more do you want?

Harper's appearance at Vimy Ridge and the G8 summit was on the news, so does that count as TV appearances?

I'm not trying to justify anything for Harper. I think it's stupid that we pay someone to make him look (subjectively) "good". I also think it's stupid that someone would be paid to do the same thing for other politicians that have held the same position.

You are correct it is stupid.

Unfortunately the stupider thing would be for the politicians not to use the image consultants.

Sure they would win the moral victory, but at what cost? Lose an election as a result?

Don't say it hasn't happened. Look at the 1960 US Presidential election. People who listened to the debate on the radio clearly felt Nixon was the winner, but those who saw Nixon's sweaty grossness on TV picked Kennedy as the winner. That election was a squeaker.

It would be great if the electorate could look past these things. But they won't. So what can you do?

[jdobbin]

So, my point is that this isn't a 'Stephen Harper' thing, but perhaps a Canadian Federal Government thing that needs to be examined. It seems hypocritical to rake him over the coals for this, but it was never a problem for other politicians.

Harper has said his government would be open about the process. He should tell Parliament how much she is being paid and for what work is being done.

[Michael Bluth]

Harper has said his government would be open about the process. He should tell Parliament how much she is being paid and for what work is being done.

Which process are you talking about? Proof? Evidence? Link?

[ScottSA]

I can't believe that we're in the middle of a hot war and a philosophical battle over the planet and the Canadian chunk of it, and some see fit to make Harper's makeup artist an issue. What's next, an outrage over expensive omega-3 eggs being used in the Parliamentary cafeteria? Fits of spleen over new carpets in Centre Block?

[hiti]

Martin and Chretien did not, I repeat DID NOT, have image consultants. They only used make-up artists when required to appear on tv or commercials.

Proof?

Source?

Or are we just supposed to take your word for it?

Read the papers, online if you like, who reported that very fact. And don't spend all your time stuck in maple leaf posting negative one-liners to everyone who questions your hero.

http://tinyurl.com/2vuroq Wonder if Stevie uses Rimmel eye liner. Guaranteed not to run.

Easy on the lipstick, cowboy.

http://tinyurl.com/3ddktu

[Michael Bluth]

Read the papers, online if you like, who reported that very fact. And don't spend all your time stuck in maple leaf posting negative one-liners to everyone who questions your hero.

So you have no proof that both Martin and Chretien did not, I repeat DID NOT, have image consultants.

When did the liberal party admit that? Provide the link.

So you can ask people for evidence, but when people ask you to provide evidence you respond with insults?

Reported.

[Who's Doing What?]

So you can ask people for evidence, but when people ask you to provide evidence you respond with insults?

Reported.

And yet you post worse crap attacking others. Grow up Ricki Bobbi.

[Michael Bluth]

And yet you post worse crap attacking others.

So you are excusing your hypocrisy hiti?

[Who's Doing What?]

And yet you post worse crap attacking others.

So you are excusing your hypocrisy hiti?

Are you calling me hiti?

We've been through this before when you thought I was Figleaf.

[Michael Bluth]

Are you calling me hiti?

We've been through this before when you thought I was Figleaf.

Yes hiti. When I replied to you and used the name hiti I was calling you hiti.

Do you understand that hiti?

[Who's Doing What?]

Are you calling me hiti?

We've been through this before when you thought I was Figleaf.

Yes hiti. When I replied to you and used the name hiti I was calling you hiti.

Do you understand that hiti?

Well now, it appears that comprehension problem you have has really flared up, and now is affecting your simple reading skills. As you can see by my user name I am not hiti. Ooops I'm sorry, apparently you can't see that.

It's ok I understand you have this problem, after all you did believe I was Figleaf at one point.

Anyone else you would care to say I am?

I hope hiti is getting a kick out of this.