betsy Posted April 6, 2007 Report Posted April 6, 2007 According to MDuffy, the new decima poll yesterday states that the Conservatives are 6% ahead of the Liberals in Ontario......tie up alongside NDP and the Liberals among women and rural areas. Journalists are saying people are getting to know Harper...and are realizing there is nothing really scary about him. That if Harper keeps what he's doing....and waited for the fall to call an election....he can be assured of a majority. I think that a lot of thinking women are seeing through the Liberals and the NDP....that all this cahmpioning of women is all just posturing. Quote
wendy Posted April 6, 2007 Report Posted April 6, 2007 According to MDuffy, the new decima poll yesterday states that the Conservatives are 6% ahead of the Liberals in Ontario......tie up alongside NDP and the Liberals among women and rural areas.Journalists are saying people are getting to know Harper...and are realizing there is nothing really scary about him. That if Harper keeps what he's doing....and waited for the fall to call an election....he can be assured of a majority. I think that a lot of thinking women are seeing through the Liberals and the NDP....that all this cahmpioning of women is all just posturing. The truth on 911 is coming out. Once it is exposed for all to see people will be seriously questioning his close relationship to George Bush, the US government, phoney war on terror, secret deals to sell away Canada under SPP and NAU. Quote
Topaz Posted April 6, 2007 Report Posted April 6, 2007 Most Canadians who DIDN"T vote for him know that it's not what he says its, what he DOESN"T say that hurt Canadians. Give him more rope and he'll hang himself by his actions. Quote
Argus Posted April 6, 2007 Report Posted April 6, 2007 Most Canadians who DIDN"T vote for him know that it's not what he says its, what he DOESN"T say that hurt Canadians. Give him more rope and he'll hang himself by his actions. I think Dion is using all the rope, right now. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Michael Bluth Posted April 6, 2007 Report Posted April 6, 2007 Just to clarify Duffy was referring to a Federal poll. Link Here are the National numbers. CPC 39% Lib 30% NDP 13% Bloc 8% Green 8% Given the strength of the Green vote that probably puts the Conservatives in Majority territory. Here are what the numbers would likely split to. CPC - 165 Lib - 90 NDP - 28 BQ - 30 Green - nada* *Unless somebody knows specific ridings where they Greens are very strong. Harper has no more than five weeks to call the next election if he wants to go before summer. If they don't go this Spring it's a great chance they go in the fall. Quote No one has ever defeated the Liberals with a divided conservative family. - Hon. Jim Prentice
betsy Posted April 7, 2007 Author Report Posted April 7, 2007 According to MDuffy, the new decima poll yesterday states that the Conservatives are 6% ahead of the Liberals in Ontario......tie up alongside NDP and the Liberals among women and rural areas. Journalists are saying people are getting to know Harper...and are realizing there is nothing really scary about him. That if Harper keeps what he's doing....and waited for the fall to call an election....he can be assured of a majority. I think that a lot of thinking women are seeing through the Liberals and the NDP....that all this cahmpioning of women is all just posturing. The truth on 911 is coming out. Once it is exposed for all to see people will be seriously questioning his close relationship to George Bush, the US government, phoney war on terror, secret deals to sell away Canada under SPP and NAU. Don't hang your hopes too much on that Bush-strategy! It's getting too stale....even the journalists are shaking their heads. Even the Media isn't harping on it anymore...only the Liberals and the NDP.....because they're running out of "ammunition." Desperate, they're hanging on to every straw. Martha Hall Findley got stumped again by a man who apparently even has a beef with the federal government (can't remember his name but he's with a coalition of something). Martha was trying to show that Harper ads are very "attackish" whereas the Liberal ads will be positive. The guy replied , "well, apparently it's working for Harper." Martha sez, "you mean negative is much better than positive?" The man replied, "the Liberal ads had been known to be the most vicious in history. Harper is just fighting fire with fire." Martha said no more. Duffy praised the man for his equanimity given how he feels towards the government. Quote
betsy Posted April 7, 2007 Author Report Posted April 7, 2007 Most Canadians who DIDN"T vote for him know that it's not what he says its, what he DOESN"T say that hurt Canadians. Give him more rope and he'll hang himself by his actions. Harper must be a chess enthusiast. If it's true that he's macro-managing and doing all the decisions for his party....he's a truly brilliant man. He's playing his opponents like chess pieces. He gets them going where he wants them to go. He just stale-mated the Bloc....and backed Dion and Layton in a corner. The Libs and NDP want to label him as manipulative (I guess that's their confession that they got "manipulated"...meaning OUT-SMARTED). But that is an important skill as a leader. Let's face it, his job requires a lot of wheelin' and dealin' domestic-wise and foreign-wise. I'd be more assured having a leader who could calculatingly square-off with any leaders of any groups or nations....and not be just a posturing wimpy-ass who gets easily swallowed up...or out-smarted... by other ferocious and cunning foreign leaders. Look how he stood up to Chirac and other leaders in that convention when Harper insisted Israel victims be recognized too! Somehow I find it hard picturing Dion or Layton doing the same thing...instead they're most likely be tripping all over themselves trying to agree with Chirac, just so they can puff their chests back here and brag: well, Canada is recognized as an important part of the international community. I have a mental image of the Liberals and NDP starring in a survivor-type of reality tv. Their fire is reduced to just embers....and you see Layton and Dion both crouched desperately blowing to get it going, while the rest of their parties are all busy, furiously rubbing sticks. Give Harper more rope...the Libs and NDP will be dead meat. Quote
ScottSA Posted April 7, 2007 Report Posted April 7, 2007 Harper must be a chess enthusiast. If it's true that he's macro-managing and doing all the decisions for his party....he's a truly brilliant man. He's playing his opponents like chess pieces. He gets them going where he wants them to go. He just stale-mated the Bloc....and backed Dion and Layton in a corner.The Libs and NDP want to label him as manipulative (I guess that's their confession that they got "manipulated"...meaning OUT-SMARTED). But that is an important skill as a leader. Let's face it, his job requires a lot of wheelin' and dealin' domestic-wise and foreign-wise. I'd be more assured having a leader who could calculatingly square-off with any leaders of any groups or nations....and not be just a posturing wimpy-ass who gets easily swallowed up...or out-smarted... by other ferocious and cunning foreign leaders. Look how he stood up to Chirac and other leaders in that convention when Harper insisted Israel victims be recognized too! Somehow I find it hard picturing Dion or Layton doing the same thing...instead they're most likely be tripping all over themselves trying to agree with Chirac, just so they can puff their chests back here and brag: well, Canada is recognized as an important part of the international community. I have a mental image of the Liberals and NDP starring in a survivor-type of reality tv. Their fire is reduced to just embers....and you see Layton and Dion both crouched desperately blowing to get it going, while the rest of their parties are all busy, furiously rubbing sticks. Give Harper more rope...the Libs and NDP will be dead meat. I met Harper in 93 when he was a lowly MP under Manning. I also worked with him and Herb Grubel on the finance critic's portfolio at the time, and he is truly one of the most intelligent men ever to walk the halls of Centre Block. A little short on personality perhaps, but very smart and very clever and very politically savvy. He has out-maneuvred the other parties easily, and I expect he'll continue to do so in the future. As an added bonus, he also does pretty much what he says he's gonna do. Quote
Michael Bluth Posted April 7, 2007 Report Posted April 7, 2007 The Libs and NDP want to label him as manipulative (I guess that's their confession that they got "manipulated"...meaning OUT-SMARTED). But that is an important skill as a leader. Let's face it, his job requires a lot of wheelin' and dealin' domestic-wise and foreign-wise. I'd be more assured having a leader who could calculatingly square-off with any leaders of any groups or nations....and not be just a posturing wimpy-ass who gets easily swallowed up...or out-smarted... by other ferocious and cunning foreign leaders. Remember it wasn't all that long ago that the divided right was whining about Jean Chretien being manipulative. The shoe really does appear to be on the other foot. The left is divided and with the ascendancy of the Green Party it appears things will only get tougher for them. I would think it is in Harper's advantage to go this spring. If he decides to hold of until the fall I'll definitely defer to his judgment. Quote No one has ever defeated the Liberals with a divided conservative family. - Hon. Jim Prentice
Canuck E Stan Posted April 7, 2007 Report Posted April 7, 2007 I would think it is in Harper's advantage to go this spring. If he decides to hold of until the fall I'll definitely defer to his judgment. It may be to his advantage,but,if he waits until the fall, a lot of media types and especially Dion will look foolish by constantly saying Harper wants to have an election this spring and it didn't happen. If there is an election this spring it will because of Dion and not Harper. Quote "Any man under 30 who is not a liberal has no heart, and any man over 30 who is not a conservative has no brains." — Winston Churchill
Michael Bluth Posted April 7, 2007 Report Posted April 7, 2007 It may be to his advantage,but,if he waits until the fall, a lot of media types and especially Dion will look foolish by constantly saying Harper wants to have an election this spring and it didn't happen.If there is an election this spring it will because of Dion and not Harper. If Harper waits until Fall whatever people are saying now about Harper wanting an early election will be irrelevant. There will be an election this Spring if Harper wants one. Dion is pretty irrelevant at this point. Quote No one has ever defeated the Liberals with a divided conservative family. - Hon. Jim Prentice
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