Argus Posted March 28, 2007 Report Posted March 28, 2007 A majority government will result in 250 more.We elected Conservatives on promises of honesty, accountability, openness and transparency. But in the very first week, that was shattered. We hoped for a fresh start and new ideas. But the spending increased, and the broken promises multiplied. We anticipated populism, more democratic spirit and citizen involvement from a renewed Conservativism. Yet, the backroom boys and unelected party officials gained even more power, while MPs, sent to Ottawa to represent us, were muzzled as never before. We looked forward to ethics. We received smear, innuendo and the politics of attack. We thought we’d gain a different breed of prime minister. We got another politician. Stephen Harper’s government is 60 weeks old, as we approach Easter 2007. Here are a quick 60 reasons it should not be allowed to continue. Sixty reasons not to vote for Stephen Harper. http://www.garth.ca/weblog/2007/03/25/sixty-weeks/ First of all, you've been around long enough to know better than to put a link in with zero personal input. If you've got something to say, then say it. Second, putting in a quote of someone else without identifying it as a quote is plagiarism. You can't think of anything to say yourself? Third, of all the people who should not be starting out a whiny rant with "We elected Conservatives" the guy who was elected AS a Conservative and then turned and spat in the voters faces is certainly high on the list. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Catchme Posted March 28, 2007 Report Posted March 28, 2007 These are the ones meaningful to me, plus the ones that figleaf noted. 9. Canceling the Kelowna Accord, cutting off talks with first nations’ leaders and refusing to deal with the Caledonia crisis. 10. Fudging the costs of government jets used by Stephen Harper and his ministers after blasting Liberals for the same thing. 20. Conservative MP Colin Mayes writing a column saying journalists who disagree with Harper should be jailed. 21. Doing nothing about climate change or the environment for more than a year, and until forced to by the polls. 22. Making a former lobbyist for military arms dealers the minister of defence, in charge of $15 billion in spending. 23. Orchestrating a secret dirty tricks campaign against Bob Rae inside the Liberal leadership convention. 24. Preaching Senate reform, then appointing Michael Fortier to the Senate so he could be made an unelected cabinet minister. 25. Spending $150,000 per weapon to arm border guards. 26. Rona Ambrose, as environment minister, firing a government scientist for writing a book on global warming. 27. Stacking a stem cell research advisory committee with pro-life Conservatives. 28. Muzzling Conservative MPs and banning them from unauthorized media interviews. 29. Saying opposition MPs have “more passion for Taliban prisoners” than they do for Canadian soldiers. But Turner should have gone a step further on this one: 32. Refusing to apologize for wiping out $25 billion in private savings with one tax measure, a great deal of it belonging to seniors. Harper should be condemned for wipingtheir savings out, as opposed to just apologizing for it. Quote When the rich wage war, it's the poor who die. ~Jean-Paul Sartre
Who's Doing What? Posted March 28, 2007 Report Posted March 28, 2007 The only reasons I needed to not vote for Harper are from his past. The comments made about Canada and his Firewall around Alberta BS, and his worshipping of the American Right-wing pretty much painted an ugly picture. The only worse picture was him in that Cowboy hat. Holy Creepy Batman, hide sheep here comes Happy Harper looking for some lovin'. lol Have you actually read the firewall letter? I'm guessing not. It just advocates Alberta pushing its constitutional rights to opt out of any number of Federal programs. We will probably end up with an APP to replaces the RCMP soon enough. Do you think I would reference the Firewall letter if I hadn't read it. Shows what kind of standards you have. Worship of the American right wing? I'm sure you have defined that one objectively. Did he not say the American right was a shining light, or beacon or some other drivel. I think he did. You won't vote for him because of his fashion choices? Do explain how that is related to his ability to provide honest, competent government. You have to be pretty incompetent to get dressed up like Goober-the-sheep-shagger ang go out for a public appearance. Quote Harper differed with his party on some key policy issues; in 1995, for example, he was one of only two Reform MPs to vote in favour of federal legislation requiring owners to register their guns. http://www.mapleleafweb.com/election/bio/harper.html "You've got to remember that west of Winnipeg the ridings the Liberals hold are dominated by people who are either recent Asian immigrants or recent migrants from eastern Canada: people who live in ghettoes and who are not integrated into western Canadian society." (Stephen Harper, Report Newsmagazine, January 22, 2001)
Michael Bluth Posted March 28, 2007 Report Posted March 28, 2007 Do you think I would reference the Firewall letter if I hadn't read it. Shows what kind of standards you have. Yes. Do provide a specific passage from the letter you find particularly offensive. Did he not say the American right was a shining light, or beacon or some other drivel. I think he did. With such a high standard as "some other drivel" I don't find it surprising you think Harper said that. You have to be pretty incompetent to get dressed up like Goober-the-sheep-shagger ang go out for a public appearance. So the competency of leaders is based on their fashion choices? How do you define competency? Quote No one has ever defeated the Liberals with a divided conservative family. - Hon. Jim Prentice
Who's Doing What? Posted March 28, 2007 Report Posted March 28, 2007 Do you think I would reference the Firewall letter if I hadn't read it. Shows what kind of standards you have. Yes. You are pathetic. Do provide a specific passage from the letter you find particularly offensive. Ya just let me check the copy I keep under my pillow. What are you smoking? Did he not say the American right was a shining light, or beacon or some other drivel. I think he did. With such a high standard as "some other drivel" I don't find it surprising you think Harper said that. With your idolization of him I'm surprised you don't have every word he has spoken memorized by date an subject. You have to be pretty incompetent to get dressed up like Goober-the-sheep-shagger ang go out for a public appearance. So the competency of leaders is based on their fashion choices? How do you define competency? Being able dress yourself appropriately I consider a basic sign of competency. Quote Harper differed with his party on some key policy issues; in 1995, for example, he was one of only two Reform MPs to vote in favour of federal legislation requiring owners to register their guns. http://www.mapleleafweb.com/election/bio/harper.html "You've got to remember that west of Winnipeg the ridings the Liberals hold are dominated by people who are either recent Asian immigrants or recent migrants from eastern Canada: people who live in ghettoes and who are not integrated into western Canadian society." (Stephen Harper, Report Newsmagazine, January 22, 2001)
ScottSA Posted March 29, 2007 Report Posted March 29, 2007 What do you find offensive about the so-called firewall letter? Quote
Michael Bluth Posted March 29, 2007 Report Posted March 29, 2007 You are pathetic. So you haven't read the letter. Ya just let me check the copy I keep under my pillow. What are you smoking? So you haven't read the letter. With your idolization of him I'm surprised you don't have every word he has spoken memorized by date an subject. So you don't have any evidence. Being able dress yourself appropriately I consider a basic sign of competency. In over a decade of public life you can point to one example of Harper dressing inappropriately? Wow, you are a tough one to please. Quote No one has ever defeated the Liberals with a divided conservative family. - Hon. Jim Prentice
Who's Doing What? Posted March 29, 2007 Report Posted March 29, 2007 So you haven't read the letter. I see you have trouble understanding written English. So you haven't read the letter. Repetion can be a sign of losing one faculties. Enjoying the ride to droolsville? So you don't have any evidence. You want to officially deny he said anything like that, so I can make a fool of you? In over a decade of public life you can point to one example of Harper dressing inappropriately? Wow, you are a tough one to please. Come on now, you must have a few examples of him dressing inapproriately on your ceiling. Quote Harper differed with his party on some key policy issues; in 1995, for example, he was one of only two Reform MPs to vote in favour of federal legislation requiring owners to register their guns. http://www.mapleleafweb.com/election/bio/harper.html "You've got to remember that west of Winnipeg the ridings the Liberals hold are dominated by people who are either recent Asian immigrants or recent migrants from eastern Canada: people who live in ghettoes and who are not integrated into western Canadian society." (Stephen Harper, Report Newsmagazine, January 22, 2001)
Michael Bluth Posted March 29, 2007 Report Posted March 29, 2007 I see you have trouble understanding written English. So you haven't read the letter. Repetion can be a sign of losing one faculties. Enjoying the ride to droolsville? So you haven't learned how to spell. btw, what is repetion? You want to officially deny he said anything like that, so I can make a fool of you? So you don't have any evidence? Come on now, you must have a few examples of him dressing inapproriately on your ceiling. So you won't provide a definition of competence? Quote No one has ever defeated the Liberals with a divided conservative family. - Hon. Jim Prentice
Catchme Posted March 29, 2007 Report Posted March 29, 2007 It was after Harper, as head of the NCC tried to get rid of the CWB, that the Alberta Agenda aka Firewall letter was written. Under the heading of the “Alberta Agenda,” we propose that our province move forward on the following fronts:Withdraw from the Canada Pension Plan to create an Alberta Pension Plan offering the same benefits at lower cost while giving Alberta control over the investment fund. Pensions are a provincial responsibility under section 94A of the Constitution Act. 1867; and the legislation setting up the Canada Pension Plan permits a province to run its own plan, as Quebec has done from the beginning. If Quebec can do it, why not Alberta? Collect our own revenue from personal income tax, as we already do for corporate income tax. Now that your government has made the historic innovation of the single-rate personal income tax, there is no reason to have Ottawa collect our revenue. Any incremental cost of collecting our own personal income tax would be far outweighed by the policy flexibility that Alberta would gain, as Quebec’s experience has shown. Start preparing now to let the contract with the RCMP run out in 2012 and create an Alberta Provincial Police Force. Alberta is a major province. Like the other major provinces of Ontario and Quebec, we should have our own provincial police force. We have no doubt that Alberta can run a more efficient and effective police force than Ottawa can – one that will not be misused as a laboratory for experiments in social engineering. Resume provincial responsibility for health-care policy. If Ottawa objects to provincial policy, fight in the courts. If we lose, we can afford the financial penalties that Ottawa may try to impose under the Canada Health Act. Albertans deserve better than the long waiting periods and technological backwardness that are rapidly coming to characterize Canadian medicine. Alberta should also argue that each province should raise its own revenue for health care – i.e., replace Canada Health and Social Transfer cash with tax points as Quebec has argued for many years. Poorer provinces would continue to rely on Equalization to ensure they have adequate revenues. Use section 88 of the Supreme Court’s decision in the Quebec Secession Reference to force Senate reform back onto the national agenda. Our reading of that decision is that the federal government and other provinces must seriously consider a proposal for constitutional reform endorsed by “a clear majority on a clear question” in a provincial referendum. You acted decisively once before to hold a senatorial election. Now is the time to drive the issue further. https://www.albertaresidentsleague.com/letter.htm Quote When the rich wage war, it's the poor who die. ~Jean-Paul Sartre
ScottSA Posted March 29, 2007 Report Posted March 29, 2007 But what is it about that letter that you find offensive? He was speaking on behalf of Alberta when he wrote that. Wouldn't you want him to speak as strongly on behalf of Canada now that he's PM? Quote
Who's Doing What? Posted March 29, 2007 Report Posted March 29, 2007 So you haven't read the letter. So you have a severe comprehension problem? So you haven't learned how to spell. btw, what is repetion? Oh no a typo. Oops the end of the world has finally come. So you don't have any evidence? So you aren't going to deny he said someting like that so I can make a fool of you? Go on, just deny he ever said anything like that. Go on. What are you afraid of? So you won't provide a definition of competence? It would be lost on you. Quote Harper differed with his party on some key policy issues; in 1995, for example, he was one of only two Reform MPs to vote in favour of federal legislation requiring owners to register their guns. http://www.mapleleafweb.com/election/bio/harper.html "You've got to remember that west of Winnipeg the ridings the Liberals hold are dominated by people who are either recent Asian immigrants or recent migrants from eastern Canada: people who live in ghettoes and who are not integrated into western Canadian society." (Stephen Harper, Report Newsmagazine, January 22, 2001)
Michael Bluth Posted March 29, 2007 Report Posted March 29, 2007 WDW, You won't answer my questions so how about answering ScottSA's? But what is it about that letter that you find offensive? He was speaking on behalf of Alberta when he wrote that. Wouldn't you want him to speak as strongly on behalf of Canada now that he's PM? Quote No one has ever defeated the Liberals with a divided conservative family. - Hon. Jim Prentice
Who's Doing What? Posted March 29, 2007 Report Posted March 29, 2007 WDW,You won't answer my questions so how about answering ScottSA's? But what is it about that letter that you find offensive? He was speaking on behalf of Alberta when he wrote that. Wouldn't you want him to speak as strongly on behalf of Canada now that he's PM? Why don't you answer me first? Do you deny that Harper praised the American Right? Quote Harper differed with his party on some key policy issues; in 1995, for example, he was one of only two Reform MPs to vote in favour of federal legislation requiring owners to register their guns. http://www.mapleleafweb.com/election/bio/harper.html "You've got to remember that west of Winnipeg the ridings the Liberals hold are dominated by people who are either recent Asian immigrants or recent migrants from eastern Canada: people who live in ghettoes and who are not integrated into western Canadian society." (Stephen Harper, Report Newsmagazine, January 22, 2001)
Michael Bluth Posted March 29, 2007 Report Posted March 29, 2007 Why don't you answer me first? Do you deny that Harper praised the American Right? I denied he worshipped the American right. Please see your original statement. Now will you answer my question? The comments made about Canada and his Firewall around Alberta BS, and his worshipping of the American Right-wing pretty much painted an ugly picture. Quote No one has ever defeated the Liberals with a divided conservative family. - Hon. Jim Prentice
Who's Doing What? Posted March 29, 2007 Report Posted March 29, 2007 Why don't you answer me first? Do you deny that Harper praised the American Right? I denied he worshipped the American right. Please see your original statement. Now will you answer my question? Nice try to weasel out of it. You haven't changed Ricki. No I won't answer your question you are not worthy of an answer. Quote Harper differed with his party on some key policy issues; in 1995, for example, he was one of only two Reform MPs to vote in favour of federal legislation requiring owners to register their guns. http://www.mapleleafweb.com/election/bio/harper.html "You've got to remember that west of Winnipeg the ridings the Liberals hold are dominated by people who are either recent Asian immigrants or recent migrants from eastern Canada: people who live in ghettoes and who are not integrated into western Canadian society." (Stephen Harper, Report Newsmagazine, January 22, 2001)
Michael Bluth Posted March 29, 2007 Report Posted March 29, 2007 Nice try to weasel out of it. You haven't changed Ricki. No I won't answer your question you are not worthy of an answer. But I am worthy of six responses? I am trying to weasel out and you call me by some random name? So you have no support for saying that Harper worshipped the American Right? Quote No one has ever defeated the Liberals with a divided conservative family. - Hon. Jim Prentice
Who's Doing What? Posted March 29, 2007 Report Posted March 29, 2007 Nice try to weasel out of it. You haven't changed Ricki. No I won't answer your question you are not worthy of an answer. But I am worthy of six responses? I am trying to weasel out and you call me by some random name? So you have no support for saying that Harper worshipped the American Right? No, but just for S&G's I was kind. Atleast you admit to trying to weasel out of it. That must be a big step for you. There is nothing random in that name and you know it. OK I wasted the 10 seconds it took. Ya, no worshipping here. Speeking to the Council for National Policy he said the following. "...your country, and particularly your conservative movement, is a light and an inspiration to people in this country and across the world." Kind of like how Jesus "is a light and inspiration" to millions. Quote Harper differed with his party on some key policy issues; in 1995, for example, he was one of only two Reform MPs to vote in favour of federal legislation requiring owners to register their guns. http://www.mapleleafweb.com/election/bio/harper.html "You've got to remember that west of Winnipeg the ridings the Liberals hold are dominated by people who are either recent Asian immigrants or recent migrants from eastern Canada: people who live in ghettoes and who are not integrated into western Canadian society." (Stephen Harper, Report Newsmagazine, January 22, 2001)
Michael Bluth Posted March 29, 2007 Report Posted March 29, 2007 OK I wasted the 10 seconds it took. Ya, no worshipping here. Speeking to the Council for National Policy he said the following. "...your country, and particularly your conservative movement, is a light and an inspiration to people in this country and across the world." Kind of like how Jesus "is a light and inspiration" to millions. So by praising the United States he is worshipping the American Right? OK, pal I guess you win. Quote No one has ever defeated the Liberals with a divided conservative family. - Hon. Jim Prentice
Who's Doing What? Posted March 29, 2007 Report Posted March 29, 2007 OK I wasted the 10 seconds it took. Ya, no worshipping here. Speeking to the Council for National Policy he said the following. "...your country, and particularly your conservative movement, is a light and an inspiration to people in this country and across the world." Kind of like how Jesus "is a light and inspiration" to millions. So by praising the United States he is worshipping the American Right? OK, pal I guess you win. See there is that comprehension problem kicking in again. You need to reread what he actually said. Quote Harper differed with his party on some key policy issues; in 1995, for example, he was one of only two Reform MPs to vote in favour of federal legislation requiring owners to register their guns. http://www.mapleleafweb.com/election/bio/harper.html "You've got to remember that west of Winnipeg the ridings the Liberals hold are dominated by people who are either recent Asian immigrants or recent migrants from eastern Canada: people who live in ghettoes and who are not integrated into western Canadian society." (Stephen Harper, Report Newsmagazine, January 22, 2001)
Michael Bluth Posted March 29, 2007 Report Posted March 29, 2007 So by praising the United States and by praising the American right in the United States he is worshipping the American Right?OK, pal I guess you win. See there is that comprehension problem kicking in again. You need to reread what he actually said. I still don't see that as worship. The point was that your rhetoric was unfounded. You haven't provided any support. If you really insist on shouting people down then you truly do win. Quote No one has ever defeated the Liberals with a divided conservative family. - Hon. Jim Prentice
Who's Doing What? Posted March 29, 2007 Report Posted March 29, 2007 So by praising the United States and by praising the American right in the United States he is worshipping the American Right?OK, pal I guess you win. See there is that comprehension problem kicking in again. You need to reread what he actually said. I still don't see that as worship. The point was that your rhetoric was unfounded. You haven't provided any support. If you really insist on shouting people down then you truly do win. Ya you don't see a lot of things when it comes to Harper do you? Uh my "rhetoric" was and is proven, by Harper's own statement. Just because your Harper-coloured glasses won't let you see it doesn't mean it isn't true. This isn't that "last word" BS again is it? Quote Harper differed with his party on some key policy issues; in 1995, for example, he was one of only two Reform MPs to vote in favour of federal legislation requiring owners to register their guns. http://www.mapleleafweb.com/election/bio/harper.html "You've got to remember that west of Winnipeg the ridings the Liberals hold are dominated by people who are either recent Asian immigrants or recent migrants from eastern Canada: people who live in ghettoes and who are not integrated into western Canadian society." (Stephen Harper, Report Newsmagazine, January 22, 2001)
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