Different Climate change question

[JerrySeinfeld]

The spirit of this thread is this: Besides a whole bunch of tongue wagging, are people really willing to change their lives over this thing. I have a suspicion that it's all a bunch of hooey.

I know this poll will likely attract the 4 people who actually bought a hybrid on this site. But still I want to know if anyone out there really cares enough to make major changes in their life...

[stignasty]

I traded my 6 cylinder van in for a 4 banger Saturn that gets great gas (if only 96 hp), plus I carpool. Is that significant?

[sideshow]

I drive a 4 cylinder car, recycle extensively, and use low energy light bulbs. Other than that, i attempt to do my shopping on the way to or from work, i use digital media rather than paper media for the most part, and I am pretty careful with keeping lights off and things unplugged. i know that it doesnt make a whole lot of difference in the big picture, but why waste if you dont have to?

[blueblood]

Replaced oil furnace with wood/electric, then went to geothermal thru MB hydro.

Practice zero-till and minimum till (reducing diesel used)

No gas pickups

debating on whether or not to get into an agreement with a conservation group concerning poplar trees on pasture land.

straight cut combine wheat

to name some off the top of my head.

[August1991]

Wow! Another Global Warming Thread!

The spirit of this thread is this: Besides a whole bunch of tongue wagging, are people really willing to change their lives over this thing. I have a suspicion that it's all a bunch of hooey.

The actions of one individual are literally a drop in the ocean that will change almost nothing.

That obvious fact is why there is a problem.

Why should I change my behaviour if it makes no difference to me?

[blueblood]

Wow! Another Global Warming Thread!

The spirit of this thread is this: Besides a whole bunch of tongue wagging, are people really willing to change their lives over this thing. I have a suspicion that it's all a bunch of hooey.

The actions of one individual are literally a drop in the ocean that will change almost nothing.

That obvious fact is why there is a problem.

Why should I change my behaviour if it makes no difference to me?

In my case, it helps me save money. I guess it's a small change, that sort of thing.

[sideshow]

Replaced oil furnace with wood/electric, then went to geothermal thru MB hydro.

Practice zero-till and minimum till (reducing diesel used)

No gas pickups

debating on whether or not to get into an agreement with a conservation group concerning poplar trees on pasture land.

straight cut combine wheat

to name some off the top of my head.

How do you like that geothermal? I was always fascinated by it.

My wife and I lived rural for a number of years and I heated my home almost exclusively with a wood stove and loved the heat, hated chainsawing the wood. Always thought about converting to geothermal, but life changes dictated a move to the city.....

[blueblood]

Replaced oil furnace with wood/electric, then went to geothermal thru MB hydro.

Practice zero-till and minimum till (reducing diesel used)

No gas pickups

debating on whether or not to get into an agreement with a conservation group concerning poplar trees on pasture land.

straight cut combine wheat

to name some off the top of my head.

How do you like that geothermal? I was always fascinated by it.

My wife and I lived rural for a number of years and I heated my home almost exclusively with a wood stove and loved the heat, hated chainsawing the wood. Always thought about converting to geothermal, but life changes dictated a move to the city.....

Free AC in the summer, plus it throws heat pretty good, I'm satisfied with it, plus it lowers the hydro bill a lot.

The thing with wood heat is that your insurance rates go up quite a bit. Chainsawing wood is half the fun of it, I love that type of work. the bad thing about it is that you can't let the fire go out and it costs quite a nice chunk of money to get, fuel, oil, hard on trucks, need a skitter and a tractor out in the bush, salvage permit, have to drive out to get it, it surprisingly adds up.

[shoggoth]

I stopped recycling because it was too time consuming.

Actually I never started. Same reason though.

[Wilber]

Been recycling for years. Vehicles are diesel. Energy consumption is a definite consideration when I purchase products. Decided some time ago that my next heating system would be Geo thermal. So my answer is no, not really.

[leonardcohen]

I've recycled as long as i can remember,it's something

that became such a habit that if i don't, i feel slothful.

I used to compost but that was just messy and a pain in the butt.

I buy energy efficent appliances and the new light bulbs.

I cycle alot and when i need to drive i belong to a local car share

company.

Also i buy recycled products.

Doing so makes me feel virtuous but whether i have any effect on the enviroment,

i don't really know.

[jbg]

The spirit of this thread is this: Besides a whole bunch of tongue wagging, are people really willing to change their lives over this thing. I have a suspicion that it's all a bunch of hooey.

Ask Al Gore and/or David Suzuki. I'd like to see how they answer the question.

No one is going to cut their standard of living over this hooey.

[geoffrey]

I decided to get a 4 cyclinder car instead of a truck. I cycle to work and school at least a couple times a week, despite the distances being over 30km one way and Calgary's road system being lethal to cyclists. I recycle most of the time, and I keep the thermostat turned down when I'm at work. I use flouresent lighting exclusively.

[Curiouscanuck]

No...I still think its too cold outside.

[Canadian Blue]

I've started using cleaner gas, am using less energy generally with reference to appliances, and I'm considering getting an Eco Pass.

[daniel]

Another Push Poll gearing you to either give up your car or you are a hypocrite.

The trick word in the poll is Significantly but most people automatically assume it means drastically. You don't need to dramatically make sacrifices but some small and significant changes can have profound effects.

Like:

1) turning the thermostat down 1degC;

2) change to a programmable thermostat;

3) turning lights and appliances (such as TV, computers, etc) off when not using them;

4) composting instead of having the city pick up your food scraps;

5) hang drying the laundry instead of the using the dryer

So if you've already done some of these easy things, then you can wave your finger at others who haven't even yet tried but just criticized.

[Canuck E Stan]

I do all of these things too.

But let's quit pretending we're doing it for the environment.

With the exception of re-cycling, we do all of these changes for only one reason.

Because we're cheap.

[jdobbin]

In my case, it helps me save money. I guess it's a small change, that sort of thing.

Don't be modest. It is a huge thing. If every new sub-division in Canada was required to do it, energy shortages and emissions would be dealt with simultaneously.

[jdobbin]

Because we're cheap.

Then let that be the hallmark of saving the environment. Because it saves money.

[Canuck E Stan]

Because we're cheap.

Then let that be the hallmark of saving the environment. Because it saves money.

But it's not in the spirit of the issue. You trade your car in because your cheap.

You buy new light bulbs because your cheap.

You get a new washing machine because the old one is broke and the new one saves on detergent and water..cheap again.

You ride a bike to work because parking costs an arm and a leg, and lets not forget the gas cost...we're just plain cheap.

Concerned about the environment?

Give up your car totally.

Live close enough to your work place, that you can walk.

Live in a smaller house.

Don't have a lawn.

Buy from the bulk store,farmer's market,avoid foods in packaging that gets thrown out.

Don't buy items you don't really need.That old TV still worked why did you need a new one?

Get clothes from second hand stores,they're still good.

I could go on and on, we're all hypocrites when it comes to the environment and in our little brains we all think we're doing something important for mother earth.

The truth is we're not and like jbg said:

"No one is going to cut their standard of living over this hooey."

[blueblood]

In my case, it helps me save money. I guess it's a small change, that sort of thing.

Don't be modest. It is a huge thing. If every new sub-division in Canada was required to do it, energy shortages and emissions would be dealt with simultaneously.

New houses are already energy efficient, they really don't need it, it wouldn't help them too much, require it for old houses. There are lots of enviro things that can save money, your right let saving money be the hallmark for the environment, a lot more people would hop on board.