Global Warming

[sunsettommy]

I have seen lots of debate on Climate Change. I am occassionally seeing posts that suggest our climate is getting colder not warmer. What is your opinion, don't just post here without voting in the online poll.

Your poll is broken -- there is no debate on whether climates change.

The poll should be something like:

1. Climate change is not occurring

2. Humans are responsible for none of it (it's all naturally occurring)

3. Humans are responsible for >0% but less than 20%

4. Humans are responsible for between > 20% but less than 80%

5. Humans are responsible for between 80% but less than 100%

6. Humans are responsible for 100% of the climate change

Obviously anyone who'd vote 1, 2, or 6 is extremely stupid.

3 is the best choice.

[sunsettommy]

How else do you explain the abundance of ski's for sale at garage sales with an average price of $20-$25.

Not where I live. We might see glacial growth this year with the massive amounts of snow we've received. Lake Louise for example, has never had this much snow since records were kept.

Hmm. Fancy that.

I have been there.The start of the mighty Columbia River.

The river goes right by my city in Washington State.

Can you provide some data on the snowfalls and its history at the lake?

[sunsettommy]

I voted yes.

It is a small warming that has been wildly overblown over a trace atmospheric gas.

There has been some talk of change in the oceans the last few years that may portend to a near future cooling.The Sun may also be approaching a "crash".Meaning less solar radiation.

The warming we see is nothing special as compared to the MWP and Roman period.They were clearly warmer.

[White Doors]

The start of the mighty Columbia River.

Bow River I think..

[dlkenny]

I'm going out on a limb here but I'm going to suggest something that hasn't really been discussed. I was doing some research into the viability of renewable energy sources including bio-diesel and ethanol and they're saying that these sources wouldn't contribute significantly to CO2 levels in the atmosphere. The reason for this is supposedly because we would be simply re-releasing the same CO2 that the plants consumed back into the atmosphere. Here's my take on this...if fossil fuels came from plants that existed millions of years ago then wouldn't it follow that we are doing nothing more than re-releasing into the atmosphere the CO2 that those plants consumed millions of years ago? According to scientists the levels of CO2 at times in the past have been 10 times what they are today; oceans and volcanoes and decaying life are by far the greatest emitters of CO2 and I see no reason why this won't continue into the future.

[Eldrick Woods]

Might that be cyclical?

Not really.

We in the US northeast have been plenty cold this last seven weeks.

It's been cold here too South Western Ontario as well. The one thing that annoys me is I get the feeling people are choosing sides on the GW issue based on political loyalty. I realize that statement is somewhat anecdotal considering my sample size, but i think you'd agree in political circles this is certainly the case.

You mean warming cycles are new, have never happened before?

Not to this extent. I know there's a few scientists and people with strong resumes representing a different view. However. One of the best is Carl Wunsch. This is the most reasonable analysis of Global Warming I've read. I'm not into the hype. I like Gore's movie but he stretches the limits as do many on both sides. Here's his take from last year. http://www.royalsoc.ac.uk/page.asp?id=4688&tip=1

Read the last paragraph.

Thus at bottom, it is very difficult to separate human induced change from natural change, certainly not with the confidence we all seek. In these circumstances, it is essential to remember that the inability to prove human-induced change is not the same thing as a demonstration of its absence. It is probably true that most scientists would assign a very high probability that human-induced change is already strongly present in the climate system, while at the same time agreeing that clear-cut proof is not now available and may not be available for a long-time to come, if ever. Public policy has to be made on the basis of probabilities, not firm proof.

[Catchme]

I have seen lots of debate on Climate Change. I am occassionally seeing posts that suggest our climate is getting colder not warmer. What is your opinion, don't just post here without voting in the online poll.

Your poll is broken -- there is no debate on whether climates change.

The poll should be something like:

1. Climate change is not occurring

2. Humans are responsible for none of it (it's all naturally occurring)

3. Humans are responsible for >0% but less than 20%

4. Humans are responsible for between > 20% but less than 80%

5. Humans are responsible for between 80% but less than 100%

6. Humans are responsible for 100% of the climate change

Obviously anyone who'd vote 1, 2, or 6 is extremely stupid.

Yes it is, a broken poll and indicates nothing, and perhaps they should take a drive through BC's interior and see the bug kill and then they would realize things are serious climatically. One just has to love those who think their "lifestyle" is more important, than their children's future. But then, most of those denying it are all whacked out on the whole armageddon thing anyway, so their words mean absolutely nothing opinion wise.

[scribblet]

Yes it is, a broken poll and indicates nothing, and perhaps they should take a drive through BC's interior and see the bug kill and then they would realize things are serious climatically. One just has to love those who think their "lifestyle" is more important, than their children's future. But then, most of those denying it are all whacked out on the whole armageddon thing anyway, so their words mean absolutely nothing opinion wise.

It is no more a broken poll than any other poll on here, no better or worse, at least it isn't a push poll like some, with pre defined answers.

What on earth does this mean? "But then, most of those denying it are all whacked out on the whole armageddon thing anyway, so their opinion..." All opinions on here have as much validity as yours.