Argus Posted March 3, 2007 Report Posted March 3, 2007 Pummelled in the polls, his House of Commons attacks muted by faltering English and his performance privately panned by insiders, Stephane Dion is off on a national damage-control tour to defend a Liberal leadership swaying between pathetic and pitiful. It was a lousy week for Dion, a pattern in danger of becoming a trend. Not once or twice, but three times in four days we saw Dion flip-flop on positions he'd taken during the leadership race or his party had supported last fall. Given that Paul Martin will not run in the next federal election, it's fitting to argue the Liberal leadership has made a seamless transition from Mr. Dithers to Flipper. It also suggests there's some truth in Conservative ads which show Dion bleating at the unfairness of having to pick among many priorities. Don Martin Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
August1991 Posted March 3, 2007 Report Posted March 3, 2007 Flipper? Nah. It won't stick. BTW, they said all the same type of nasty things (even worse when you add in the *scary, scary* angle) about Harper. Being Opposition leader is like being in the hospital - it's not supposed to be pleasant. I will agree with Martin about this: It's my view, one that's increasingly in the minority, that an election won't happen. Quote
Shakeyhands Posted March 3, 2007 Report Posted March 3, 2007 more partisan name calling Argus? you know better, just because you quote someone else, your intent is clear. grow up. Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
madmax Posted March 3, 2007 Report Posted March 3, 2007 more partisan name calling Argus? you know better, just because you quote someone else, your intent is clear. grow up. Argus didn't make up the name. That doesn't mean that Argus hasn't resorted to name calling and slurring or that it is out of his scope to be entertained by feeding the fire. Just because Argus does resort to name calling when frustrated or when having a weak argument only reflects on him personally. But Dion is going to get a name, and Argus quoting a name tossed out there isn't that bad. You are Challenging the intent of Argus posts because of his reputation. But had some else mentioned the same quote, I am not certain it would draw as much of your ire. I don't think Flipper will stick, but I don't know how it sounds in French Either. Quote
sideshow Posted March 3, 2007 Report Posted March 3, 2007 Name calling is for high school kids. Our well paid politicians should have more dignity while conducting themselves. But people are people.... Quote
Shakeyhands Posted March 4, 2007 Report Posted March 4, 2007 more partisan name calling Argus? you know better, just because you quote someone else, your intent is clear. grow up. Argus didn't make up the name. That doesn't mean that Argus hasn't resorted to name calling and slurring or that it is out of his scope to be entertained by feeding the fire. Just because Argus does resort to name calling when frustrated or when having a weak argument only reflects on him personally. But Dion is going to get a name, and Argus quoting a name tossed out there isn't that bad. You are Challenging the intent of Argus posts because of his reputation. But had some else mentioned the same quote, I am not certain it would draw as much of your ire. I don't think Flipper will stick, but I don't know how it sounds in French Either. Its not ire, I assure you of that. This forum has rules and while I stated that Argus is quoting someone else, it clearly goes against the spirit of said rules to reprint names. For example, http://www.igloolounge.net/2006/02/10/step...-is-an-asshole/ this poster calls Stephen Harper an a$$hole, that however doesn't make it ok for me to come here and start repeating this name does it? Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
mcqueen625 Posted March 4, 2007 Report Posted March 4, 2007 Grow up Shakeyhands, the name of the game is politics, and if poor little Dion can't defend himself he has nobody to blame but himself. The truth is that he contradicts himself every time he opens his mouth. What was okay before when the Liberals including himself put programs and legislation in place is no longer okay because the Liberals are no longer in control. Too bad, get over it! If the Liberals were at all smart they never would have put this man at the helm, he is a sure fire way to alienate the majority of the Canadians, and cause them to vote Conservative instead of Liberal or NDP. From my perspective there is little or no difference between proposals of the Liberals and the NDP, both parties want to be all things to all Canadians from birth to death. Myself, I want less government, not more government, I want smaller, not larger, and I want non-invasive, not invasive government policies and laws, because when government becomes involved in any aspect of forming Canadian society. Government has a very poor track record of either making it work, or doing anything efficiently or affectively, but they are definitely good at creating a very expensive lessons in "How Not To Do Something." The Liberals and their Sponsorship and, Gun Registry to name but two, are prime examples of the total failure of government to dictate "How To Do Anything." Those are just two examples of many illustrating the fact that the Liberals as a government, were a total failure for Canadians. Quote
Shakeyhands Posted March 4, 2007 Report Posted March 4, 2007 fair enough but what has that got to do with what I am saying? Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Argus Posted March 4, 2007 Author Report Posted March 4, 2007 fair enough but what has that got to do with what I am saying? Perhaps, as usual, nobody quite knows what you are saying. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Saturn Posted March 4, 2007 Report Posted March 4, 2007 Harper has well earned the name Harpocrite. Quote
geoffrey Posted March 4, 2007 Report Posted March 4, 2007 Harper has well earned the name Harpocrite. I don't think your names for him really count for much, where has that been used in the national media? Quote RealRisk.ca - (Latest Post: Prosecutors have no "Skin in the Game") --
Michael Bluth Posted March 10, 2007 Report Posted March 10, 2007 more partisan name calling Argus? you know better, just because you quote someone else, your intent is clear. grow up. I find it interesting you are taking somebody to task over their behaviour and telling them to "grow up". So this code of respectful behaviour you refer to doesn't apply to you? Back to the topic, no flipper won't stick. I'm sure the first Liberal leader in 100 years not to become Prime Minister will. Quote No one has ever defeated the Liberals with a divided conservative family. - Hon. Jim Prentice
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