SamStranger Posted February 15, 2007 Report Posted February 15, 2007 It's quite simple in some ways. Their are people in this country who have a left-wing/socialist point of view. And their are people in this country who have a right-wing/conservative point of view. but theirs a hard part. a mean part. a confusing part. how does a political party who's main voter core are social/neo-conservatives, govern for a country that has a liberal/left-wing majority? is it really possible for Stephen harper to do something that liberals will see as a good, socialist thing? ??? now let's flip the coin. does stephane dion have a single conservative bone in his body? if he were to take government, would he represent the 5 million+ right-wing voters? can it be done? Is it really fair how liberals assume that what they believe in, all Canadians believe in. What about the former alliance/reform base of voters? Preston manning took over 4 million votes in the 1997 election. did the liberals do a single conservative thing to appease those voters? I think we need to discuss this- it's time for us to let it out. What do Liberals REALLY think of conservatives, and what do conservatives REALLY think of liberals? Can we ever get along and do whats best for all of canada? Quote "They say that lifes a carousel, spinning fast you got to ride it well. The world is full of Kings and Queens who blind your eyes then steal your dreams- it's heaven and hell. And they will tell you black is really white, the moon is just the sun at night, and when you walk in golden halls you get to keep the gold that falls- its heaven and hell" -Ronnie James Dio
scribblet Posted February 15, 2007 Report Posted February 15, 2007 but theirs a hard part. a mean part. a confusing part. how does a political party who's main voter core are social/neo-conservatives, govern for a country that has a liberal/left-wing majority? is it really possible for Stephen harper to do something that liberals will see as a good, socialist thing? Hmmm, shouldn't be too hard considering that Canada doesn't have a political party who's main voter core are social/neo-conservatives, (unless you are considering the CHP) maybe that is why you find it confusing. Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
SamStranger Posted February 15, 2007 Author Report Posted February 15, 2007 but theirs a hard part. a mean part. a confusing part. how does a political party who's main voter core are social/neo-conservatives, govern for a country that has a liberal/left-wing majority? is it really possible for Stephen harper to do something that liberals will see as a good, socialist thing? Hmmm, shouldn't be too hard considering that Canada doesn't have a political party who's main voter core are social/neo-conservatives, (unless you are considering the CHP) maybe that is why you find it confusing. Wow, did you come up with 'dat' one all by 'urself'? for gods sake, you missed my whole point! THE Point im trying to make is how does a conservative party govern for all of canada, including liberals, and howcome liberals never governed for the 4 million reform voters that voted for preston manning. sheesh. Quote "They say that lifes a carousel, spinning fast you got to ride it well. The world is full of Kings and Queens who blind your eyes then steal your dreams- it's heaven and hell. And they will tell you black is really white, the moon is just the sun at night, and when you walk in golden halls you get to keep the gold that falls- its heaven and hell" -Ronnie James Dio
Figleaf Posted February 15, 2007 Report Posted February 15, 2007 It's quite simple in some ways. Their are people in this country who have a left-wing/socialist point of view. And their are people in this country who have a right-wing/conservative point of view. but theirs a hard part. a mean part. a confusing part. how does a political party who's main voter core are social/neo-conservatives, govern for a country that has a liberal/left-wing majority? is it really possible for Stephen harper to do something that liberals will see as a good, socialist thing? ??? now let's flip the coin. does stephane dion have a single conservative bone in his body? if he were to take government, would he represent the 5 million+ right-wing voters? can it be done? Is it really fair how liberals assume that what they believe in, all Canadians believe in. What about the former alliance/reform base of voters? Preston manning took over 4 million votes in the 1997 election. did the liberals do a single conservative thing to appease those voters? I think we need to discuss this- it's time for us to let it out. What do Liberals REALLY think of conservatives, and what do conservatives REALLY think of liberals? Can we ever get along and do whats best for all of canada? Your demarkation of a sharp dichotomy between two sides of the electorate suggests a troubling pathology which I hope is not correct. I hope that most voters don't make their choices based on which of two camps they most identify with. As a voter myself, I always hope that whatever party occupies the government will make its decisions based on a rational assessment of the facts as they exist, rather than on a pre-determined view of what suits thier ideology. Historically, it is probably the absence of a sharp defining ideology that has led to electoral success for the Liberal party as well as red tory governments. Quote
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