PolyNewbie Posted March 24, 2007 Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 jbg:No, the Judge cuts off repetitive arguments. So you cannot state one arguement that works in your favour of the celiphate. I'm sure as a lawyer that you are aware of the extent at which this society is controlled by the private banking interest and its easy to see who benefits from the believe in this celiphate. Its hard to imagine how it would be practically implemented - Arabs are not known for their nuclear submarines. You are in favour of war with 1/3 of the worlds population call them terrorists when they defend themselves from our imperial forces but cannot state a single reason why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuzadd Posted March 24, 2007 Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 Can lawyers just run out of the court room when they can't make an arguement ? Or do they just conduct their business outside the courts this way ?No, the Judge cuts off repetitive arguments. \They conduct alot of their business, in the hallways, been there , personally, it isn't always bad, sometimes, it help's move things along. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbg Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 Can lawyers just run out of the court room when they can't make an arguement ? Or do they just conduct their business outside the courts this way ?No, the Judge cuts off repetitive arguments. They conduct alot of their business, in the hallways, been there , personally, it isn't always bad, sometimes, it help's move things along. The Judge is never in those hallway conferences. When the Judge is involved it's in Chambers or in the Courtroom, with all sides. Occasionally, with permission, he'll talk to one side at a time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter F Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 Its hard to imagine how it [a Caliphate] would be practically implemented - Arabs are not known for their nuclear submarines. Yes, Polly, it is very hard for you to imagine. Remember the Caliphate existed in various forms from the 7th century right up to the end of WWI. The Caliphate, up to the 1500's was the 'Golden Age' of Islamic civilization...and those crazy Islamists established it without any knowledge whatsoever of the construction and use of Nuclear submarines. Is it surprising that some extrememly devout Muslims would like to return to the age of the Caliphs? The good ol days when Islam was respected and feared by the West? I understand, the whole concept isn't dealt with on Youtube or Rense.com or Hawks cafe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolyNewbie Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 PeterF:Is it surprising that some extrememly devout Muslims would like to return to the age of the Caliphs? The good ol days when Islam was respected and feared by the West? Some extremely devout religions over here reject technology completely and they are about as likely to take over as the muslims in the middle east. What you say has probably always been true, but I can't imagine how we could view them as a threat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbg Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 Is it surprising that some extrememly devout Muslims would like to return to the age of the Caliphs? The good ol days when Islam was respected and feared by the West?Some extremely devout religions over here reject technology completely and they are about as likely to take over as the muslims in the middle east. What you say has probably always been true, but I can't imagine how we could view them as a threat.They used planes they could never have built to destroy buildings they never could have built. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter F Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 Some extremely devout religions over here reject technology completely and they are about as likely to take over as the muslims in the middle east. What you say has probably always been true, but I can't imagine how we could view them as a threat. The extremely devout Muslims don't necessarily reject technology, and yes, I agree that the likelyhood of re-establishing a Caliphate is about as likely as 8-20 conspirators pulling off the Sept 11 2001 conspiracy. But that is neither here nor there. The fact is that Osama et al, in thier religiously soaked-western porn hating minds think God will intervene on thier behalf. Not an unusual belief amongst the devout. Even you agree that those who worship Lucifer are acting on his behalf to take over the world - in fact its the core of your conspiracy. You find that to be an understandable motivation. You don't doubt it, nor do you question their motivation. Why then the doubt about some folks wanting to re-establish a Caliphate and taking steps towards that end? Are only Luciferians capable of intricate planning? The threat is not the pie-in-the-sky idea of a re-established Caliphate. The threat is the willingness of some to kill to achieve thier ends. Of course, to you, No non-Luciferian worshipper is capable of these things. Because, I guess, Lucifer worshipping Illuminati types have an ace up thier sleeves: Black Magic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbg Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 Is it surprising that some extrememly devout Muslims would like to return to the age of the Caliphs? The good ol days when Islam was respected and feared by the West?When a people is not good at producing anything of value, they relish ruling over others and extracting tribute. It helps if such a parasitic relationship can be justified in religious terms. The term I'm looking for is dhimmitude.The Muslims were on fine terms with Jews living in their lands as long as the Jews accepted submission. Since Zionism implies non-submission, on lands that were once under Muslim control, they're furious. Seems that they have the same problem with Christians in Europe. The Muslims were once contenders there and are driven back. They are humiliated, defeated and ashamed. I understand that emotion well. But if it's us or them, I choose us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter F Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 When a people is not good at producing anything of value, they relish ruling over others and extracting tribute. It helps if such a parasitic relationship can be justified in religious terms. The term I'm looking for is dhimmitude.The Muslims were on fine terms with Jews living in their lands as long as the Jews accepted submission. Since Zionism implies non-submission, on lands that were once under Muslim control, they're furious. Seems that they have the same problem with Christians in Europe. The Muslims were once contenders there and are driven back. They are humiliated, defeated and ashamed. I understand that emotion well. But if it's us or them, I choose us. If by 'them' you mean terrorists then I agree - its us or them. well, actually only some-of-us or them. I have no use for terrorists either. They're murderous dorks. Unfortunatly, the concept of Us or them has been morphed by many boneheads to mean Us (the West) or Them (Islam). and thats just bullshit . The problem isn't Muslims. The problem is terrorism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbg Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 If by 'them' you mean terrorists then I agree - its us or them. well, actually only some-of-us or them. I have no use for terrorists either. They're murderous dorks. Unfortunatly, the concept of Us or them has been morphed by many boneheads to mean Us (the West) or Them (Islam). and thats just bullshit .The problem isn't Muslims. The problem is terrorism. The silence among non-terrorist Muslims about terror is deafening. When they oppose terror they oppose it "in all its forms". Scratch the surface, and that's a code word for Zionism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 Unfortunatly, the concept of Us or them has been morphed by many boneheads to mean Us (the West) or Them (Islam). and thats just bullshit . The problem isn't Muslims. The problem is terrorism. Hi Peter. I think a woman living in certain parts of the Islamic world would feel terrorism isn't the #1 problem with Islam. In a sense, Islam is terrorism against women...at least in some areas. This story is fresh... --------------------------------------------------- I do not believe in a fate that falls on men however they act; but I do believe in a fate that falls on them unless they act. ---Buddha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbg Posted March 26, 2007 Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 Unfortunatly, the concept of Us or them has been morphed by many boneheads to mean Us (the West) or Them (Islam). and thats just bullshit .The problem isn't Muslims. The problem is terrorism. Hi Peter. I think a woman living in certain parts of the Islamic world would feel terrorism isn't the #1 problem with Islam. In a sense, Islam is terrorism against women...at least in some areas. This story is fresh... --------------------------------------------------- I do not believe in a fate that falls on men however they act; but I do believe in a fate that falls on them unless they act. ---Buddha You're talking about a true death cult. They revel in violence and death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolyNewbie Posted March 26, 2007 Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 jbg:They used planes they could never have built to destroy buildings they never could have built. Thats what it says on TV but the actual evidence says something very different. The government version of Muslims knocking down those buildings is a scientific impossibility. Intelligence experts say that only governments could pull off such a feat and that the US government had to be involved to pull it off. If your entire arguement depends on 911 or Oklahoma you need to find a new one. People are waking up to 911 being an inside job and the movie '911 Mysteries' cannot be discredited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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