tml12 Posted January 30, 2007 Report Posted January 30, 2007 1) "When" is very important...the day before a confidence vote is pretty important if you ask me. 2) You set the bar a bit high for the CPC...as high as it can go because if the left can't criticize us for not being as "good" as them, they'll criticize us for not being as good as they know no one in politics can be. 3) And yes, I tend to be paranoid when I see the CBC starting last January on election night start criticizing Harper and ripping him apart before his own acceptance speech. And Ricki and I asked you one thing you like about Harper and we're still waiting... Quote "Those who stand for nothing fall for anything." -Alexander Hamilton
Who's Doing What? Posted January 30, 2007 Report Posted January 30, 2007 You PM'd me as many times as I PM'd you... Um... No. How many times has Greg warned you about the personal attacks? You see like every bully you see any disagreement with you as an attack and yet you attack others personally all the time. Heck you just called me a jerk yesterday or the day before. But you wouldn't consider that a personal attack would you? Quote Harper differed with his party on some key policy issues; in 1995, for example, he was one of only two Reform MPs to vote in favour of federal legislation requiring owners to register their guns. http://www.mapleleafweb.com/election/bio/harper.html "You've got to remember that west of Winnipeg the ridings the Liberals hold are dominated by people who are either recent Asian immigrants or recent migrants from eastern Canada: people who live in ghettoes and who are not integrated into western Canadian society." (Stephen Harper, Report Newsmagazine, January 22, 2001)
Who's Doing What? Posted January 30, 2007 Report Posted January 30, 2007 Things I like about Harper: Tough on Gun Crime. Stance on Afghanistan. Hasn't been stupid enough to force an election yet. Now give me my prize. Quote Harper differed with his party on some key policy issues; in 1995, for example, he was one of only two Reform MPs to vote in favour of federal legislation requiring owners to register their guns. http://www.mapleleafweb.com/election/bio/harper.html "You've got to remember that west of Winnipeg the ridings the Liberals hold are dominated by people who are either recent Asian immigrants or recent migrants from eastern Canada: people who live in ghettoes and who are not integrated into western Canadian society." (Stephen Harper, Report Newsmagazine, January 22, 2001)
Ricki Bobbi Posted January 30, 2007 Report Posted January 30, 2007 And Ricki and I asked you one thing you like about Harper and we're still waiting... That's because WDW is just here to attack me and try and make lame points about *bully* behaviour despite his own behaviour. For example ... Heck you just called me a jerk yesterday or the day before. But you wouldn't consider that a personal attack would you? Just makes stuff up. Provides no corroboration or evidence... Let's get back to the topic please. Quote Dion is a verbose, mild-mannered academic with a shaky grasp of English who seems unfit to chair a university department, much less lead a country. Randall Denley, Ottawa Citizen
newbie Posted January 30, 2007 Report Posted January 30, 2007 Tit for tat: I like the CPC idea of elected Senate, and the fixed time for elections. I'm glad we're following our commitment to NATO re Afghanistan. I hope Harper follows through on any immediate plan he has to help our environment. GST cut was a nice gesture, but it was probably a political move rather than a genuine one to help Canadians. Quote
jdobbin Posted January 30, 2007 Author Report Posted January 30, 2007 Creepy? What like threatening to continuously keep sending someone PM's unless they bend to your will? I think you have some issues there RB. I've been getting unwanted PMs. Is there a block I can out on it? I've contacted the moderator about what I can do about it. Quote
Ricki Bobbi Posted January 30, 2007 Report Posted January 30, 2007 Tit for tat: I like the CPC idea of elected Senate, and the fixed time for elections. I'm glad we're following our commitment to NATO re Afghanistan. I hope Harper follows through on any immediate plan he has to help our environment. GST cut was a nice gesture, but it was probably a political move rather than a genuine one to help Canadians. The elected Senate will take a majority. Needs to be equal to fly. Afghanistan is a good thing. Why try and impugn his motives on the GST cut? It was a good thing. The environmental moves have alreadty started and they will continue to happen throughout the life of the Government. (Although a political move rahter than a *genuine* one ... whatver that means.) Quote Dion is a verbose, mild-mannered academic with a shaky grasp of English who seems unfit to chair a university department, much less lead a country. Randall Denley, Ottawa Citizen
Who's Doing What? Posted January 30, 2007 Report Posted January 30, 2007 And Ricki and I asked you one thing you like about Harper and we're still waiting... That's because WDW is just here to attack me and try and make lame points about *bully* behaviour despite his own behaviour. For example ... Heck you just called me a jerk yesterday or the day before. But you wouldn't consider that a personal attack would you? Just makes stuff up. Provides no corroboration or evidence... Let's get back to the topic please. Here's your evidence Ricki. Enjoy. Quoting from Wikipedia. Didn't Colbert teach you guys anything??? Shhhhhhhhhhhhhh. It's too funny reading Wikipedia as the conservative gospel. Uhh, maybe both you jerks should read the context of the quote from Wikipedia. Are either of you denying the veracity of the quote??? The Star has used *Proudly Liberal* as an unofficial motto for year. It was in Zerb's blog a couple weeks ago even. I'm not surprised that either of you turned it into a chance to attack. WDW attacked me over it because his obsession with me is just strange and creepy. He has been warned about it, yet keeps on going. Hiti, Wikipedia is conservative gospel??? wtf? Quote Harper differed with his party on some key policy issues; in 1995, for example, he was one of only two Reform MPs to vote in favour of federal legislation requiring owners to register their guns. http://www.mapleleafweb.com/election/bio/harper.html "You've got to remember that west of Winnipeg the ridings the Liberals hold are dominated by people who are either recent Asian immigrants or recent migrants from eastern Canada: people who live in ghettoes and who are not integrated into western Canadian society." (Stephen Harper, Report Newsmagazine, January 22, 2001)
Ricki Bobbi Posted January 30, 2007 Report Posted January 30, 2007 Uhh, maybe both you jerks should read the context of the quote from Wikipedia. Are either of you denying the veracity of the quote??? Why not reply to my post? Look at the context of the quote from Wikipedia. You are just here to attack me. You ignore debate. You ignored my point and just attacked me. I defended myself. There is a reason Greg hasn't warned me. You have been out to antagonize me and nothing else here. How many times have you been warned now? Quote Dion is a verbose, mild-mannered academic with a shaky grasp of English who seems unfit to chair a university department, much less lead a country. Randall Denley, Ottawa Citizen
Ricki Bobbi Posted January 30, 2007 Report Posted January 30, 2007 Back to the topic of the thread. The ads seem to be in pretty heavy rotation. They are cheezy, but so were the beep beep ads and the fake interviews. Cheezy wins in political advertising. Quote Dion is a verbose, mild-mannered academic with a shaky grasp of English who seems unfit to chair a university department, much less lead a country. Randall Denley, Ottawa Citizen
Who's Doing What? Posted January 30, 2007 Report Posted January 30, 2007 I've contacted the moderator about what I can do about it. Quit attacking me on the boards, and it stops... Sheesh. Quote Harper differed with his party on some key policy issues; in 1995, for example, he was one of only two Reform MPs to vote in favour of federal legislation requiring owners to register their guns. http://www.mapleleafweb.com/election/bio/harper.html "You've got to remember that west of Winnipeg the ridings the Liberals hold are dominated by people who are either recent Asian immigrants or recent migrants from eastern Canada: people who live in ghettoes and who are not integrated into western Canadian society." (Stephen Harper, Report Newsmagazine, January 22, 2001)
Ricki Bobbi Posted January 30, 2007 Report Posted January 30, 2007 Back to the topic of the thread. The ads seem to be in pretty heavy rotation. They are cheezy, but so were the beep beep ads and the fake interviews. Cheezy wins in political advertising. Quote Dion is a verbose, mild-mannered academic with a shaky grasp of English who seems unfit to chair a university department, much less lead a country. Randall Denley, Ottawa Citizen
Ricki Bobbi Posted January 30, 2007 Report Posted January 30, 2007 Stephen Harper is writing a book on the history of hockey. I am cool with that.Now, Ricki Bobbi, where is my frickin' kewpie doll? I must have missed it. Did you call yourself non-partisan? You missed the point. Can you name something good he has done as Prime Minister.... Quote Dion is a verbose, mild-mannered academic with a shaky grasp of English who seems unfit to chair a university department, much less lead a country. Randall Denley, Ottawa Citizen
Who's Doing What? Posted January 30, 2007 Report Posted January 30, 2007 1) "When" is very important...the day before a confidence vote is pretty important if you ask me. Sure, but it wasn't like she had just been elected only days before. Plus her new party hadn't just finished a campaign condemming such actions. There are differences. 2) You set the bar a bit high for the CPC...as high as it can go because if the left can't criticize us for not being as "good" as them, they'll criticize us for not being as good as they know no one in politics can be. Um it was the CPC who set the bar so high, not anyone else. If they are having trouble living up to the standards they set for themselves to bad. Furthermore if they are getting called on not living up to their own standards, they should suck it up, instead of complaining about the Left-wing Liberal media. That whole idea of the Liberal media is a joke seeing as how the majority of the media openly supported Harper and the CPC during the last election. 3) And yes, I tend to be paranoid when I see the CBC starting last January on election night start criticizing Harper and ripping him apart before his own acceptance speech. Then why watch the CBC? You should have watched the CTV Harper lovefest, it had been already going on for weeks. Quote Harper differed with his party on some key policy issues; in 1995, for example, he was one of only two Reform MPs to vote in favour of federal legislation requiring owners to register their guns. http://www.mapleleafweb.com/election/bio/harper.html "You've got to remember that west of Winnipeg the ridings the Liberals hold are dominated by people who are either recent Asian immigrants or recent migrants from eastern Canada: people who live in ghettoes and who are not integrated into western Canadian society." (Stephen Harper, Report Newsmagazine, January 22, 2001)
Ricki Bobbi Posted January 30, 2007 Report Posted January 30, 2007 Um it was the CPC who set the bar so high, not anyone else. If they are having trouble living up to the standards they set for themselves to bad. Furthermore if they are getting called on not living up to their own standards, they should suck it up, instead of complaining about the Left-wing Liberal media. That whole idea of the Liberal media is a joke seeing as how the majority of the media openly supported Harper and the CPC during the last election. It's only the leftie partisans accusing the Conservatives of setting the bar *so* high. The leftie partisans are the only ones *calling* them on it. There is lots of evidence of liberal bias in the media. The Conservatives got so much support because the Liberals were so rotten, corrupt and full of entitlement that they just had to go. Quote Dion is a verbose, mild-mannered academic with a shaky grasp of English who seems unfit to chair a university department, much less lead a country. Randall Denley, Ottawa Citizen
Who's Doing What? Posted January 30, 2007 Report Posted January 30, 2007 Um it was the CPC who set the bar so high, not anyone else. If they are having trouble living up to the standards they set for themselves to bad. Furthermore if they are getting called on not living up to their own standards, they should suck it up, instead of complaining about the Left-wing Liberal media. That whole idea of the Liberal media is a joke seeing as how the majority of the media openly supported Harper and the CPC during the last election. It's only the leftie partisans accusing the Conservatives of setting the bar *so* high. The leftie partisans are the only ones *calling* them on it. There is lots of evidence of liberal bias in the media. The Conservatives got so much support because the Liberals were so rotten, corrupt and full of entitlement that they just had to go. Really?!? So when the first value listed on Harper's campaign platform was Integrity, that wasn't setting the bar high? Integrity, family, respect for work, achievement – Canada strong and free The platform is based on the values of integrity, family, respect for work, achievement, and commitment to a strong and free Canada. Link By using Integrity as a main point of their platform the CPC set themselves up for having their integrity watched and critiqued. --------------------------------- "Leftie partisans"? You undermine your own arguments with that tripe. You use it as if it were a slur. Any other slurs you wish to use? You want to insult me through my race or my religion? Care to insult anything else about me? Age? Height? Weight? Hair Colour? Country of Ancestry? Quote Harper differed with his party on some key policy issues; in 1995, for example, he was one of only two Reform MPs to vote in favour of federal legislation requiring owners to register their guns. http://www.mapleleafweb.com/election/bio/harper.html "You've got to remember that west of Winnipeg the ridings the Liberals hold are dominated by people who are either recent Asian immigrants or recent migrants from eastern Canada: people who live in ghettoes and who are not integrated into western Canadian society." (Stephen Harper, Report Newsmagazine, January 22, 2001)
Ricki Bobbi Posted January 30, 2007 Report Posted January 30, 2007 "Leftie partisans"? You undermine your own arguments with that tripe. You use it as if it were a slur. Any other slurs you wish to use? You want to insult me through my race or my religion? Care to insult anything else about me? Age? Height? Weight? Hair Colour? Country of Ancestry? But you aren't a Liberal, and you are not *blindly partisan*. Sorry to burst your bubble, but I am not a Liberal and I am not blindly partisan unlike most on these boards. Why did you think that post applied to you? Could it be that you are a leftie partisan? So does your concept of ethics apply to your own behaviour and deceitfully mislabelling yourself? Nice histrionics at the end there. Good night stalker. See you tomorrow, if you haven't been suspended by then. Quote Dion is a verbose, mild-mannered academic with a shaky grasp of English who seems unfit to chair a university department, much less lead a country. Randall Denley, Ottawa Citizen
Fortunata Posted January 30, 2007 Report Posted January 30, 2007 You know what I do when any political ad comes on, ANYTIME a political ad comes on? Click. Actually you can pretty well tell who watches them to how brainwashed they come across, and some of you's come across as really brainwashed. Quote
jbg Posted January 30, 2007 Report Posted January 30, 2007 1. Belinda did not switch parties days after she was elected. But she did switch parties in the teeth of a confidence vote that the LPOC was going to lose. That's a lot more damning than switching right after an election, particularly an election where the switcher suggested that the party "pull the goalie". Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Remiel Posted January 30, 2007 Report Posted January 30, 2007 Hardly. The only difference what party you are in during a confidence vote is whether the vote is being whipped. And, of course, it probably was. So, if Belinda did not want to vote non-confidence in the government, her *only* choice was to quit the party. There is nothing nearly as damning about that as switching parties two weeks after the election. Quote
cybercoma Posted January 30, 2007 Report Posted January 30, 2007 1. Belinda did not switch parties days after she was elected. But she did switch parties in the teeth of a confidence vote that the LPOC was going to lose. That's a lot more damning than switching right after an election, particularly an election where the switcher suggested that the party "pull the goalie". Actually, she was pulling a right winger. Quote
jdobbin Posted January 30, 2007 Author Report Posted January 30, 2007 But she did switch parties in the teeth of a confidence vote that the LPOC was going to lose. That's a lot more damning than switching right after an election, particularly an election where the switcher suggested that the party "pull the goalie". It's a lot more damning? Actually, it's no different. Quote
scribblet Posted January 30, 2007 Report Posted January 30, 2007 You might want to read this about censorship and Liberals and attack ads. http://calsun.canoe.ca/News/Columnists/Lev...29/3473262.html -snip- But Telecaster's boss, James Patterson, cares enormously about politics. Over the last three years, according to Elections Canada data dug up by blogger Stephen Taylor, Patterson made a whopping 17 donations to the Liberal Party, totalling more than $4,300. That's more than most MPs give to their own parties. That's an extreme partisan. One of the donations was even made in January 2006, just days before the last election. That's important, because Patterson was in charge of censoring TV ads that very moment. And censor he did. That was when the Liberals rolled out their attack ads, claiming Stephen Harper was going to put "soldiers in our streets". It was absurd, and it backfired. The point is Telecaster, run by Jim Patterson, didn't censor them, even though they used images of Stephen Harper without his permission. But when the Conservatives produced a response to those attack ads -- showing video clips of Liberal MPs admitting their own attack ads had gone too far -- Telecaster censored the ads. Telecaster ordered the Conservative ads off the air. The story gets worse: Telecaster yanked the ads after a complaint from the CBC, because it was their footage that captured the MPs making those statements. The CBC actively intervened to knock Conservative ads off the air. And the Telecaster censor, who just happened to be a major Liberal donor, was happy to comply. Isn't that a cosy little family? .Has the CBC ever complained about the Liberals using images of Conservative politicians taken from CBC cameras? Don't be ridiculous. The CBC is a wing of the Liberal Party -- the left wing. more Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
jdobbin Posted January 30, 2007 Author Report Posted January 30, 2007 You might want to read this about censorship and Liberals and attack ads. This is already in another thread. Quote
Who's Doing What? Posted January 30, 2007 Report Posted January 30, 2007 But you aren't a Liberal, and you are not *blindly partisan*.Sorry to burst your bubble, but I am not a Liberal and I am not blindly partisan unlike most on these boards. Why did you think that post applied to you? Could it be that you are a leftie partisan? So does your concept of ethics apply to your own behaviour and deceitfully mislabelling yourself? Nice histrionics at the end there. Good night stalker. See you tomorrow, if you haven't been suspended by then. Maybe because you quoted me in your response. Like seriously, do you need a map for everything? Stalker eh? Coming from you that is funny. Quote Harper differed with his party on some key policy issues; in 1995, for example, he was one of only two Reform MPs to vote in favour of federal legislation requiring owners to register their guns. http://www.mapleleafweb.com/election/bio/harper.html "You've got to remember that west of Winnipeg the ridings the Liberals hold are dominated by people who are either recent Asian immigrants or recent migrants from eastern Canada: people who live in ghettoes and who are not integrated into western Canadian society." (Stephen Harper, Report Newsmagazine, January 22, 2001)
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