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:lol::lol:

This is too funny.

If I was a woman, he'd give me pms.

:lol::lol::lol:

Harper differed with his party on some key policy issues; in 1995, for example, he was one of only two Reform MPs to vote in favour of federal legislation requiring owners to register their guns.

http://www.mapleleafweb.com/election/bio/harper.html

"You've got to remember that west of Winnipeg the ridings the Liberals hold are dominated by people who are either recent Asian immigrants or recent migrants from eastern Canada: people who live in ghettoes and who are not integrated into western Canadian society." (Stephen Harper, Report Newsmagazine, January 22, 2001)

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Do you Harper-haters feel better ignoring the facts of Canadian politics?

Why do you call anyone who disagrees with you or Harper a Harper hater? I certainly don't hate the man. I just don't like his or the CPC policies for the most part.

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:lol:

From mynameismarc85

What kind of leader is Stephen Harper? Income trust taxings lololol

Ahh, but there is the rub.

The Conservatives ads will be seen by millions of Canadians watching TV. The Liberal knock-offs, by Harper-haters and political junkies in general.

Have your laugh with your internet only Harper hate fest. The Conservatives will be laughing all the way to a majority. :lol:

Here is the rub, the youtube Harper has already aired nationally tonight on the news lol by millions of Canadians!!!! And its true lol even more and he is a leader, yep wells was correct the CPC are audtioning for opposition. lolol

So your admitting that the CPC are you people here are having a Dion hate fest! Wow, never thought I hear that!

When the rich wage war, it's the poor who die. ~Jean-Paul Sartre

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:lol:

From mynameismarc85

What kind of leader is Stephen Harper? Income trust taxings lololol

Ahh, but there is the rub.

The Conservatives ads will be seen by millions of Canadians watching TV. The Liberal knock-offs, by Harper-haters and political junkies in general.

Have your laugh with your internet only Harper hate fest. The Conservatives will be laughing all the way to a majority. :lol:

Here is the rub, the youtube Harper has already aired nationally tonight on the news lol by millions of Canadians!!!! And its true lol even more and he is a leader, yep wells was correct the CPC are audtioning for opposition. lolol

So your admitting that the CPC are you people here are having a Dion hate fest! Wow, never thought I hear that!

For every one issue you can find a Harper broken promise, I can find 10 Liberal broken promise.

"Those who stand for nothing fall for anything."

-Alexander Hamilton

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Hardly. The only difference what party you are in during a confidence vote is whether the vote is being whipped. And, of course, it probably was. So, if Belinda did not want to vote non-confidence in the government, her *only* choice was to quit the party. There is nothing nearly as damning about that as switching parties two weeks after the election.

Why did she need a Cabinet seat as an inducement if she was so principled?

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  • The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).

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For every one issue you can find a Harper broken promise, I can find 10 Liberal broken promise.

...and for every one year of Harper rule in which to find broken promises, there has been 13 Liberal. :rolleyes:

Harper differed with his party on some key policy issues; in 1995, for example, he was one of only two Reform MPs to vote in favour of federal legislation requiring owners to register their guns.

http://www.mapleleafweb.com/election/bio/harper.html

"You've got to remember that west of Winnipeg the ridings the Liberals hold are dominated by people who are either recent Asian immigrants or recent migrants from eastern Canada: people who live in ghettoes and who are not integrated into western Canadian society." (Stephen Harper, Report Newsmagazine, January 22, 2001)

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Hardly. The only difference what party you are in during a confidence vote is whether the vote is being whipped. And, of course, it probably was. So, if Belinda did not want to vote non-confidence in the government, her *only* choice was to quit the party. There is nothing nearly as damning about that as switching parties two weeks after the election.

Why did she need a Cabinet seat as an inducement if she was so principled?

Please show where it was she demanded a cabinet post. Not that I doubt you, I just don't think I have actually read where she is quoted as demanding that for herself.

Harper differed with his party on some key policy issues; in 1995, for example, he was one of only two Reform MPs to vote in favour of federal legislation requiring owners to register their guns.

http://www.mapleleafweb.com/election/bio/harper.html

"You've got to remember that west of Winnipeg the ridings the Liberals hold are dominated by people who are either recent Asian immigrants or recent migrants from eastern Canada: people who live in ghettoes and who are not integrated into western Canadian society." (Stephen Harper, Report Newsmagazine, January 22, 2001)

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Why did she need a Cabinet seat as an inducement if she was so principled?

Please show where it was she demanded a cabinet post. Not that I doubt you, I just don't think I have actually read where she is quoted as demanding that for herself.

She got one as soon as she switched. Remember?

I'm a Yank and I remember. The stench reached all the way from the Rideau to the Hudson River.

  • Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone."
  • Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds.
  • Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location?
  • The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).

Posted

Why did she need a Cabinet seat as an inducement if she was so principled?

Please show where it was she demanded a cabinet post. Not that I doubt you, I just don't think I have actually read where she is quoted as demanding that for herself.

She got one as soon as she switched. Remember?

I'm a Yank and I remember. The stench reached all the way from the Rideau to the Hudson River.

I remember she got it, I just don't think I have ever seen where she demanded it. It could have been offered to her as a further snub to the CPC party by the Liberals, but that is a far cry from using as a reason to question her principles.

Being offered it and demanding it are two different things.

Harper differed with his party on some key policy issues; in 1995, for example, he was one of only two Reform MPs to vote in favour of federal legislation requiring owners to register their guns.

http://www.mapleleafweb.com/election/bio/harper.html

"You've got to remember that west of Winnipeg the ridings the Liberals hold are dominated by people who are either recent Asian immigrants or recent migrants from eastern Canada: people who live in ghettoes and who are not integrated into western Canadian society." (Stephen Harper, Report Newsmagazine, January 22, 2001)

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She got one as soon as she switched. Remember?

I'm a Yank and I remember. The stench reached all the way from the Rideau to the Hudson River.

Of course that was part of the deal for Belinda.

Why else would the little Princess cross the floor? Stephen wasn't treating here with the respect Daddy's money had earned for her so she crossed for the treatment she *deserved*.

Dion is a verbose, mild-mannered academic with a shaky grasp of English who seems unfit to chair a university department, much less lead a country.

Randall Denley, Ottawa Citizen

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For every one issue you can find a Harper broken promise, I can find 10 Liberal broken promise.

...and for every one year of Harper rule in which to find broken promises, there has been 13 Liberal. :rolleyes:

It's more or less a better track record, wouldn't you say?

"Those who stand for nothing fall for anything."

-Alexander Hamilton

Posted

For every one issue you can find a Harper broken promise, I can find 10 Liberal broken promise.

...and for every one year of Harper rule in which to find broken promises, there has been 13 Liberal. :rolleyes:

It's more or less a better track record, wouldn't you say?

Um...no.

You can find 10 Liberal broken promises for every 1 of Harpers.

Yet the Liberals were in power 13 years compared to the current 1 of Harper.

10:13

1:1

I would say there is a higher ratio of Conservative broken-promises:years-in-power than there is of Liberal broken-promises:years-in-power.

Ofcourse these are hypothetical numbers. Although I would be interested to see how any govt really stacked up. See what kind of percentage of promises they actually kept during time in office.

Harper differed with his party on some key policy issues; in 1995, for example, he was one of only two Reform MPs to vote in favour of federal legislation requiring owners to register their guns.

http://www.mapleleafweb.com/election/bio/harper.html

"You've got to remember that west of Winnipeg the ridings the Liberals hold are dominated by people who are either recent Asian immigrants or recent migrants from eastern Canada: people who live in ghettoes and who are not integrated into western Canadian society." (Stephen Harper, Report Newsmagazine, January 22, 2001)

Posted

I'll agree with you that politicians break promises...no doubt about that one.

So far, Harper is not in the Liberal league although I'll admit he screwed up the income trust thing.

"Those who stand for nothing fall for anything."

-Alexander Hamilton

Posted
I'll agree with you that politicians break promises...no doubt about that one.

So far, Harper is not in the Liberal league although I'll admit he screwed up the income trust thing.

IMO He has also broken the promise that he was actually ethically different from the Liberals.

Harper differed with his party on some key policy issues; in 1995, for example, he was one of only two Reform MPs to vote in favour of federal legislation requiring owners to register their guns.

http://www.mapleleafweb.com/election/bio/harper.html

"You've got to remember that west of Winnipeg the ridings the Liberals hold are dominated by people who are either recent Asian immigrants or recent migrants from eastern Canada: people who live in ghettoes and who are not integrated into western Canadian society." (Stephen Harper, Report Newsmagazine, January 22, 2001)

Posted
I'll agree with you that politicians break promises...no doubt about that one.

So far, Harper is not in the Liberal league although I'll admit he screwed up the income trust thing.

His big screw up with Income Trusts was making the promise in the first place.

Guaranteed, nobody will campaign on reversing the issue.

Real, Canadians who *aren't* blind partisans will give him a pass.

There truly was too much revenue being lost by conversions. Hard to argue with someboy who breaks a promise because keeping the promise isn't in the best interest of the electorate as a whole.

Dion is a verbose, mild-mannered academic with a shaky grasp of English who seems unfit to chair a university department, much less lead a country.

Randall Denley, Ottawa Citizen

Posted
His big screw up with Income Trusts was making the promise in the first place.

Guaranteed, nobody will campaign on reversing the issue.

Real, Canadians who *aren't* blind partisans will give him a pass.

There truly was too much revenue being lost by conversions. Hard to argue with someboy who breaks a promise because keeping the promise isn't in the best interest of the electorate as a whole.

Hogwash.

Harper differed with his party on some key policy issues; in 1995, for example, he was one of only two Reform MPs to vote in favour of federal legislation requiring owners to register their guns.

http://www.mapleleafweb.com/election/bio/harper.html

"You've got to remember that west of Winnipeg the ridings the Liberals hold are dominated by people who are either recent Asian immigrants or recent migrants from eastern Canada: people who live in ghettoes and who are not integrated into western Canadian society." (Stephen Harper, Report Newsmagazine, January 22, 2001)

Posted

His big screw up with Income Trusts was making the promise in the first place.

Guaranteed, nobody will campaign on reversing the issue.

Real, Canadians who *aren't* blind partisans will give him a pass.

There truly was too much revenue being lost by conversions. Hard to argue with someboy who breaks a promise because keeping the promise isn't in the best interest of the electorate as a whole.

Hogwash.

What a cerebral response. Is your response dictated by the identity of the poster, or the content of the post?

  • Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone."
  • Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds.
  • Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location?
  • The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).

Posted
What a cerebral response. Is your response dictated by the identity of the poster, or the content of the post?

Totally based on the complete lack of content.

To say "Real Canadians" or people who arent' "blind partisans" will give him "a pass" is complete hogwash. Not only did non-partisans, as well as partisans lose money but some conservatives lost money on this decision aswell, and they should all be holding him accountable, regardless of political affiliation.

Then to insinuate that someone is not a "real Canadian" for gettting upset that their govt reversed their pre-election stance and made a decision that ended up costing them a lot of money, is beyond contemptable.

Harper differed with his party on some key policy issues; in 1995, for example, he was one of only two Reform MPs to vote in favour of federal legislation requiring owners to register their guns.

http://www.mapleleafweb.com/election/bio/harper.html

"You've got to remember that west of Winnipeg the ridings the Liberals hold are dominated by people who are either recent Asian immigrants or recent migrants from eastern Canada: people who live in ghettoes and who are not integrated into western Canadian society." (Stephen Harper, Report Newsmagazine, January 22, 2001)

Posted

Too much revenue been lost with the IT??? HA!!

Or do you mean the monies being paid to RRSPs and RIFs for people's old age savings? Monies that would be taxed at a higher rate down the road when the funds were taken out of the savings plan.

This is the revenue that Jimmie is so hot about losing?

What an idiot the Minister of Finance is.

"You cannot bring your Western standards to Afghanistan and expect them to work. This is a different society and a different culture." -Hamid Karzai, President of Afghanistan June 23/07

Posted
Or do you mean the monies being paid to RRSPs and RIFs for people's old age savings? Monies that would be taxed at a higher rate down the road when the funds were taken out of the savings plan.

What an idiot the Minister of Finance is.

Hmmm, the whole idea of RRSPs is to transfer money from hgher income years to lower income years.

People who don't understand that are the real idiots.

Dion is a verbose, mild-mannered academic with a shaky grasp of English who seems unfit to chair a university department, much less lead a country.

Randall Denley, Ottawa Citizen

Posted

Many will cash in RRSPs to buy a house, buy something else, pay for kids college, etc and that is taxed at a higher rate.

And of course there is another discussion on how government senior programs are clawed back if there is other earnings..... like RRSPs, plus having RRSP income pushes some into a higher tax bracket.

So the idiot Jimmie using RRSP as his excuse to cancel IT was brainless.

Your personal attacks on me are meaningless.

"You cannot bring your Western standards to Afghanistan and expect them to work. This is a different society and a different culture." -Hamid Karzai, President of Afghanistan June 23/07

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Many will cash in RRSPs to buy a house, ... and that is taxed at a higher rate.

Under the Home Buyer's Plan Canadians can withdraw up to $20,000 of RRSP money for the purchase of hteir first home without paying taxes, as long as they pay back the money over a fifteen year period. (Link)

Do you have any idea what you are talking about?

Your personal attacks on me are meaningless.

What is the meaning of your personal attacks on our Finance Minister?

So the idiot Jimmie using RRSP as his excuse to cancel IT was brainless.

Nice double-standard. :lol:

Dion is a verbose, mild-mannered academic with a shaky grasp of English who seems unfit to chair a university department, much less lead a country.

Randall Denley, Ottawa Citizen

Posted

And I am sure that "everyone" who cashes in their RRSP to buy a home pays the money back. Yup. Just everyone is that well off in your world.

Jimmie is a politician and has left himself open to the idiot label by his words and actions.

"You cannot bring your Western standards to Afghanistan and expect them to work. This is a different society and a different culture." -Hamid Karzai, President of Afghanistan June 23/07

Posted
And I am sure that "everyone" who cashes in their RRSP to buy a home pays the money back. Yup. Just everyone is that well off in your world.

They have to pay back $1,350 a year *at the most*.

That is a little over a $100 a month.

If people cannot afford those payments they are most likely earning in the lowest tax bracket and shouldn't be contributing to RRSPs in the first place.

Dion is a verbose, mild-mannered academic with a shaky grasp of English who seems unfit to chair a university department, much less lead a country.

Randall Denley, Ottawa Citizen

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