B. Max Posted December 6, 2006 Report Posted December 6, 2006 Just like a liberal, try and save a drug house by putting out the fire. Just like a right winger. Kill the innocent while trying to do the right thing. Not trying, succeeding. Quote
jdobbin Posted December 6, 2006 Report Posted December 6, 2006 Not trying, succeeding. True. Killing the innocent seems to be a right wing trait in the pursuit of justice. Quote
Black Dog Posted December 6, 2006 Report Posted December 6, 2006 I'm so glad I found a "get out of public disapprobation free" card. Commit a crime? Just say your victim was a drug dealer and you are immediately exonerate din the court of conservative opinion. "Oh sure I kicked the crap out of the guy and nicked his car, but he was a crack dealer. I was helping the community. What? Evidence? I don't have any and I don't need any: everyone knows it's true. The cops? Oh they just wouldn't do anything about it." Quote
Argus Posted December 6, 2006 Report Posted December 6, 2006 The law has hanged plenty of innocent people, too. What about the danger to people of unrestrainted drug sales and violence? The people responsible for the hanging should the face the same punishment. Keeping going up the food chain until you do get the right authorities to act. Just because someone doesn't like abortion doesn't mean they should find a doctor who does them and act as judge, jury and executioner. Or is that okay too? What type of vigilanteeism is okay and what is not? As far as I'm concerned, when you act as a vigilante you're assuming all the risks of being wrong. If what you do produces justice I support it. If it doesn't, you're on the hook for the appropriate punishment. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted December 6, 2006 Report Posted December 6, 2006 I'm so glad I found a "get out of public disapprobation free" card. Commit a crime? Just say your victim was a drug dealer and you are immediately exonerate din the court of conservative opinion. "Oh sure I kicked the crap out of the guy and nicked his car, but he was a crack dealer. I was helping the community. What? Evidence? I don't have any and I don't need any: everyone knows it's true. The cops? Oh they just wouldn't do anything about it." Actually, there seems to be a whole pile of evidence that they were crack dealers. But I think the comparison you're searching for in the law is husband killing, which is legal so long as you "claim" that you were battered, or at least, threatened, or at least, had a decent grudge agaisnt the hubby. No evidence is requred that you were ever actually harmed. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
B. Max Posted December 6, 2006 Report Posted December 6, 2006 Not trying, succeeding. True. Killing the innocent seems to be a right wing trait in the pursuit of justice. Sounds like something that should posted over the doors of the liberal abortion mills. With some removed. Killing the innocent in the pursuit of justice. Quote
jdobbin Posted December 6, 2006 Report Posted December 6, 2006 As far as I'm concerned, when you act as a vigilante you're assuming all the risks of being wrong. If what you do produces justice I support it. If it doesn't, you're on the hook for the appropriate punishment. Everyone usually says that they don't like the discretion a judge has in sentencing. Well, in this case, the judge didn't have much discretion in sentencing. Even if these guys did what they was right, it had to view it from the thought of "what if it went wrong?" It is too bad the police and authorities didn't act. The judge acted accordingly. The federal government can still intervene if they feel the persons involved deserve mercy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pardon#Pardon...mency_in_Canada Quote
Hydraboss Posted December 6, 2006 Report Posted December 6, 2006 I'm so glad I found a "get out of public disapprobation free" card. Commit a crime? Just say your victim was a drug dealer and you are immediately exonerate din the court of conservative opinion. "Oh sure I kicked the crap out of the guy and nicked his car, but he was a crack dealer. I was helping the community. What? Evidence? I don't have any and I don't need any: everyone knows it's true. The cops? Oh they just wouldn't do anything about it." What does this "crack dealer" comment have to do with anything? If these guys had openly beat the church-going house owner to death with, oh I don't know, a baseball bat and an aluminum hockey stick, etc, they still would have received house arrest. Did you forget that this is the Canadian Injustice System? Our system is based on rehabilitation not punishment. The fact that this guy was/is a drug dealer has no bearing on what these guys did. PEOPLE DON'T GET PUNISHED IN THIS COUNTRY. Quote "racist, intolerant, small-minded bigot" - AND APPARENTLY A SOCIALIST (2010) (2015)Economic Left/Right: 8.38 3.38 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 3.13 -1.23
jdobbin Posted December 6, 2006 Report Posted December 6, 2006 Sounds like something that should posted over the doors of the liberal abortion mills. With some removed.Killing the innocent in the pursuit of justice. Ah yes, the abortion mills. Doctors, nurses and women all out murdering the innocent. I guess you'll be getting right on that. Quote
blueblood Posted December 6, 2006 Author Report Posted December 6, 2006 As far as I'm concerned, when you act as a vigilante you're assuming all the risks of being wrong. If what you do produces justice I support it. If it doesn't, you're on the hook for the appropriate punishment. Everyone usually says that they don't like the discretion a judge has in sentencing. Well, in this case, the judge didn't have much discretion in sentencing. Even if these guys did what they was right, it had to view it from the thought of "what if it went wrong?" It is too bad the police and authorities didn't act. The judge acted accordingly. The federal government can still intervene if they feel the persons involved deserve mercy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pardon#Pardon...mency_in_Canada In the crack house case, the vigilantes had an air tight case, they acted, and solved a problem that was the scourge of their community, this thing could not have went wrong. The judge shouldn't act on the if something goes wrong, he should act on when something went wrong, and in this case it didn't. The police and authorities couldn't act due to a left winged justice system that has them jumping through hoops to get the job done, it's like you'd rather see 20 mass murderers go free than see a person who didn't necessarily commit mass muder go to jail, it is with that thinking that is a major part of why we have a crime problem Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
jdobbin Posted December 6, 2006 Report Posted December 6, 2006 In the crack house case, the vigilantes had an air tight case, they acted, and solved a problem that was the scourge of their community, this thing could not have went wrong. The judge shouldn't act on the if something goes wrong, he should act on when something went wrong, and in this case it didn't. The police and authorities couldn't act due to a left winged justice system that has them jumping through hoops to get the job done, it's like you'd rather see 20 mass murderers go free than see a person who didn't necessarily commit mass muder go to jail, it is with that thinking that is a major part of why we have a crime problem His discretion on this was very limited. Apparently, that's how the right wing wants their judges to act. Quote
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