Kim Campbell lost the 1993 Election, not Mulroney

[1967100]

What a shame it was for that phony to become Prime Minister in June 1993. Clearly, she took the reigns of the PC and tore it to shreads. When she inherited the party, the PC had 40% (compared to the Liberals, who had 20%)of Canadian support in the polls, which would've meant another majority for the PC. Yet as she took over for Mulroney, their support dropped rapidly. Going from a strong 36% in September to a weak 16% at election time, all because of the attack ads that SHE MADE.

Too bad Mulroney retired. He certainly had the support to win another majority and remain as Prime Minister until 1998, which would've been great because the sponsership scandal wouldn't have occured.

Now we have a far right Conservative party instead of a moderate one like the PC.

Kim Campbell= the dog of the Conservatives.

[Riverwind]

What a shame it was for that phony to become Prime Minister in June 1993. Clearly, she took the reigns of the PC and tore it to shreads.

Talk about revisionist history. The PC party was headed for defeat when Mulroney resigned - they had absolutely no chance if he had stayed on as leader. The change in leadership gave the party a temporary boost in the polls but that boost disappeared pretty fast as soon as people realized it was the same party with a different leader. I don't believe anyone could have led the PCs to victory at the time.

[blueblood]

What a shame it was for that phony to become Prime Minister in June 1993. Clearly, she took the reigns of the PC and tore it to shreads.

Talk about revisionist history. The PC party was headed for defeat when Mulroney resigned - they had absolutely no chance if he had stayed on as leader. The change in leadership gave the party a temporary boost in the polls but that boost disappeared pretty fast as soon as people realized it was the same party with a different leader. I don't believe anyone could have led the PCs to victory at the time.

You can bet your ass that the next cpc leader will be a progressive if they want to win the next election

[bk59]

You can bet your ass that the next cpc leader will be a progressive if they want to win the next election

Had the CPC looked anything like the PC party instead of a clone of the Canadian Alliance / Reform party they would have won the last election.

[gc1765]

You can bet your ass that the next cpc leader will be a progressive if they want to win the next election

Had the CPC looked anything like the PC party instead of a clone of the Canadian Alliance / Reform party they would have won the last election.

2004 or 2006? They did win in 2006, but they probably would have won a majority. I would consider voting for a Progressive Conservative party (have to see their platform first) but I doubt I will ever be voting for Harper and the Reform....err I mean CPC.

[blueblood]

You can bet your ass that the next cpc leader will be a progressive if they want to win the next election

Had the CPC looked anything like the PC party instead of a clone of the Canadian Alliance / Reform party they would have won the last election.

2004 or 2006? They did win in 2006, but they probably would have won a majority. I would consider voting for a Progressive Conservative party (have to see their platform first) but I doubt I will ever be voting for Harper and the Reform....err I mean CPC.

So if Harper gets the plug pulled and some of his cabinet go, would that do it. Where this new leader comes from is a good question...

[bk59]

2004 or 2006? They did win in 2006, but they probably would have won a majority. I would consider voting for a Progressive Conservative party (have to see their platform first) but I doubt I will ever be voting for Harper and the Reform....err I mean CPC.

In 2004, it could have gone minority for Martin or minority for a PC-like party.

In 2006, the PC-like party would have had a majority. Probably a big one.

When I say PC-like party I mean the Conservative party except looking more like the PCs than the Alliance / Reform.

[jbg]

What a shame it was for that phony to become Prime Minister in June 1993. Clearly, she took the reigns of the PC and tore it to shreads. When she inherited the party, the PC had 40% (compared to the Liberals, who had 20%)of Canadian support in the polls, which would've meant another majority for the PC. Yet as she took over for Mulroney, their support dropped rapidly. Going from a strong 36% in September to a weak 16% at election time, all because of the attack ads that SHE MADE.

Too bad Mulroney retired. He certainly had the support to win another majority and remain as Prime Minister until 1998, which would've been great because the sponsership scandal wouldn't have occured.

Now we have a far right Conservative party instead of a moderate one like the PC.

Kim Campbell= the dog of the Conservatives.

I recall, on my visit to Alberta in 1992, hearing that Mulroney "could not be elected dog catcher". Certainly, the Alliance (1987-9) and Bloc (1991 or so) pulled out long before Campbell replaced Mulroney as PCPC leader. I don't know how you can lay that at the foot of Campbell's disastrous leadership.

[jbg]

You can bet your ass that the next cpc leader will be a progressive if they want to win the next election

With Alliance II splintering off? I highly doubt it. Trudeau-lite will not fill the CPC bill electorally.

[madmax]

What a shame it was for that phony to become Prime Minister in June 1993. Clearly, she took the reigns of the PC and tore it to shreads. When she inherited the party, the PC had 40% (compared to the Liberals, who had 20%)of Canadian support in the polls, which would've meant another majority for the PC. Yet as she took over for Mulroney, their support dropped rapidly. Going from a strong 36% in September to a weak 16% at election time, all because of the attack ads that SHE MADE.

Too bad Mulroney retired. He certainly had the support to win another majority and remain as Prime Minister until 1998, which would've been great because the sponsership scandal wouldn't have occured.

Now we have a far right Conservative party instead of a moderate one like the PC.

Kim Campbell= the dog of the Conservatives.

Thanks, I always enjoy a good laugh. IIRC Mulroney was personally polling around 9%. The Reform Party was coming on strong on the right, and Mulroneys flirtation with the sovereigntist resulted in both betrayal and the formation of the Bloc. Add in Spending to rival Trudeau, a GST, a FTA, with 2/3rds opposed, a huge deficit, debt, and a revolving door of discredited MPs and Cabinet ministers and the Progressive Conservatives bed was well made.

The Progressive Conservatives were able to drive to work in a Corvette, after the election. Had Mulroney stayed on, I doubt the result would have been any better. Good Riddence.