Liberal resolution on Quebec nation withdrawn

[Leafless]

" A controversial resolution that called on the federal Liberal party to recognize Quebec as a nation has been withdrawn by its authors as party delegates begin gathering in Montreal for this weekend’s leadership vote."

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After all this the Liberals ditch the nation resolution and stick the Quebec nation controversy and it's ramifications with Mr. Harper and the Conservatives.

Now tell me, would you vote Liberal?

It is this kind of liberal politics that is tearing this country apart.

http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/news...2aa&k=61971

[Wilber]

After all this the Liberals ditch the nation resolution and stick the Quebec nation controversy and it's ramifications with Mr. Harper and the Conservatives.

Seems to me it would be redundant seeing as most of them voted for the motion in the Commons. If all the parties voted overwhelmingly in favour, the controversy belongs to all of them.

[Leafless]

After all this the Liberals ditch the nation resolution and stick the Quebec nation controversy and it's ramifications with Mr. Harper and the Conservatives.

Seems to me it would be redundant seeing as most of them voted for the motion in the Commons. If all the parties voted overwhelmingly in favour, the controversy belongs to all of them.

This is true, but was not initially Ignatieff version concerning the definition of Quebec as a nation.

For the Liberals to agree with Harper's watered down meaningless definition (of Quebec as a nation) offered the Liberals an easy way out, but at the same time by ditching the original Liberals 'nation resolution' shows the hypocrites the Liberals really are.

[geoffrey]

This is true, but was not initially Ignatieff version concerning the definition of Quebec as a nation.

Who cares, Harper is in charge, he's 100% completely responsible for HIS choice. Are you going to vote CPC now that they are playing to the interests of the Quebecois at all costs?

It's ridiculous to say, oh Iggy started it, it's not Harper's fault. Too bad, a real leader makes decisions based on principle, so either Harper supports Quebecois 'nationalism' or he's not a real leader.

[Higgly]

...a real leader makes decisions based on principle, so either Harper supports Quebecois 'nationalism' or he's not a real leader.

You're making Ignatieff look pretty good, here

[geoffrey]

...a real leader makes decisions based on principle, so either Harper supports Quebecois 'nationalism' or he's not a real leader.

You're making Ignatieff look pretty good, here

Why? He's has less in principles than Harper.

Anyone that changes their worldview to come back to what's pretty much a foreign country and run for PM is a little low on principle and a little high on the power he never saw in academia.

[gerryhatrick]

" A controversial resolution that called on the federal Liberal party to recognize Quebec as a nation has been withdrawn by its authors as party delegates begin gathering in Montreal for this weekend’s leadership vote."

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After all this the Liberals ditch the nation resolution and stick the Quebec nation controversy and it's ramifications with Mr. Harper and the Conservatives.

Now tell me, would you vote Liberal?

It is this kind of liberal politics that is tearing this country apart.

You attack Liberals, but you don't make any sense in doing so.

Why should they bother with the resolution after the vote held the other day?

And where is your critisism of Harper for his stirring of the pot, which argueably is much more responsible for the continuation of the mess and for making it much more of a problem. The BQ are pinching themselves, they can't believe the good fortune that boy brought them with his foolish vote.

[gerryhatrick]

Seems to me it would be redundant seeing as most of them voted for the motion in the Commons. If all the parties voted overwhelmingly in favour, the controversy belongs to all of them.

Nice try.

[Biblio Bibuli]

It's ridiculous to say, oh Iggy started it, it's not Harper's fault.

You see, Stephen knows and does remember Preston Manning's genius and how his great ideas were always stolen by the Liberals. Over and over again. And now that the shoe is on other foot and it is the Liberals who now possess the genius amongst them in Michael Ignatieff he is out to pay them back by taking all of his ideas as his own too.

Preston is now regarded by every thinking Canadian as the "Best Prime Minister We Never Had" and I hope and pray to God that we don't make the same mistake yet again.

Amen!

[Wilber]

Seems to me it would be redundant seeing as most of them voted for the motion in the Commons. If all the parties voted overwhelmingly in favour, the controversy belongs to all of them.

Nice try.

You mean they didn't vote for it?

[jbg]

After all this the Liberals ditch the nation resolution and stick the Quebec nation controversy and it's ramifications with Mr. Harper and the Conservatives.

Seems to me it would be redundant seeing as most of them voted for the motion in the Commons. If all the parties voted overwhelmingly in favour, the controversy belongs to all of them.

I think Harper struck the right balance. The Liberals don't want to be forced to eat a rich diet of their own words, or swing from the traitor's rope.

[August1991]

You attack Liberals, but you don't make any sense in doing so.

Why should they bother with the resolution after the vote held the other day?

Attack Liberals?

The Liberal Party, since 1896, was at the heart of the linguistic divide in Canada. Trudeau would never have been shy of this debate.

Now, the federal Liberal Party seems to prefer to avoid the hard questions. Dion and Rae want to move on. Kennedy is happy with this turn of events. Ignatieff wants to be leader.

The Liberals have shelved a debate on whether Quebec constitutes a nation, but signs of division linger on.

Quebec MP and Deputy Liberal Leader Lucienne Robillard asserted Tuesday that the "majority" of Liberals support recognition of Quebec nationhood.

"I think our members saw that now parliamentarians on all sides -- even the (separatist) Bloc (Quebecois), can I believe it? -- voted for a unified Canada," she said. "That's wonderful.

"So that's why I think we can conclude that this is what our members wanted and now is the time to look at other very important issues for the future of our country."

CTV

I can understand why the federal Liberals would want to "shelve" this debate now. But make no mistake, the debate will be "hidden" in their choice of leader.

Admirably, in Liberal fashion, Rae and Dion are trying to play both sides of the fence.

[jdobbin]

I think Harper struck the right balance. The Liberals don't want to be forced to eat a rich diet of their own words, or swing from the traitor's rope.

Harper is paying for this issue in the west and not really gaining from it in the east. We'll see in next week's polls how this is playing out.

[Wilber]

I think Harper struck the right balance. The Liberals don't want to be forced to eat a rich diet of their own words, or swing from the traitor's rope.

Harper is paying for this issue in the west and not really gaining from it in the east. We'll see in next week's polls how this is playing out.

The Liberal motion was to recognise the whole damn province as a nation. If they were ever able to do that the whole country would pay for it big time.

[jdobbin]

The Liberal motion was to recognise the whole damn province as a nation. If they were ever able to do that the whole country would pay for it big time.

This is why the issue was divisive for the Liberals. They ultimately dropped it.

[Wilber]

The Liberal motion was to recognise the whole damn province as a nation. If they were ever able to do that the whole country would pay for it big time.

This is why the issue was divisive for the Liberals. They ultimately dropped it.

It should have been divisive. They should send Harper a case of Scotch for figuring out how to get them off the hook without really giving anything up.

[gerryhatrick]

Seems to me it would be redundant seeing as most of them voted for the motion in the Commons. If all the parties voted overwhelmingly in favour, the controversy belongs to all of them.

Nice try.

You mean they didn't vote for it?

No, I'm aware of the facts as you are. All but 15 Liberals voted for it.

That doesn't change the fact that it was Stephen Harper's brainchild, and if negative fallout ensues it belongs more to him than anyone else.

[Wilber]

Seems to me it would be redundant seeing as most of them voted for the motion in the Commons. If all the parties voted overwhelmingly in favour, the controversy belongs to all of them.

Nice try.

You mean they didn't vote for it?

No, I'm aware of the facts as you are. All but 15 Liberals voted for it.

That doesn't change the fact that it was Stephen Harper's brainchild, and if negative fallout ensues it belongs more to him than anyone else.

When are you sending him his case of Scotch?