Israel Defends Itself

[Craig Read]

Israel is now targeting training camps in Syria. So much for my statement that Syria appeared to be acting better after Iraq was invaded. It certainly is not doing much in getting rid of its support for terror.

Israel, he said, decided "to enlarge the scope of our operation against the Islamic Jihad and Hamas."

The attack, Gissin said, sends a message to Syria and Iran to end their support for terrorism against Israel.

"We will not tolerate the continuation of this axis of terror between Tehran, Damascus and Gaza to continue to operate and kill innocent men, women and children," he said.

Good for them. Win the war. When you fight, fight to win, not to draw, to appease, to impress, but to win.

[Nuclear]

Go Israel! Bout time we start favoring common sense over political ambitions. <ahem>UN<ahem>

[Derek]

Finally, Isaeral is my Hero. The terrorist training camps are something the US should have gone after. Thats where all the terrorism starts, the training camps.

It about damn time.

[Craig Read]

Now Syria who is currently on the UN Security Council has ushered together a meeting.

This is sick. 19 Israeli's killed Saturday by terrorists and no UN movement. Suddenly Syrian bases are attacked and now the UN responds with harsh words against Israel.

This epitomizes the uselessness of the UNO.

Off the wire:

Undated footage of the camp released by the Israeli military and taken from Iranian television shows a military officer conducting a tour. In one room were displayed hundreds of weapons, including grenades with Hebrew markings and other weapons apparently captured from Israel. Another scene showed a series of underground tunnels packed with arms and ammunition.

      Israel had not yet determined if any people were killed, said Raanan Gissin, an adviser to Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon. “This was a measured response,” he said. “We did not attack Syrian targets, but very specific camps used to train the terrorists.”

      Speaking on the Al-Jazeera television network, Abu Emad El-Refaei, an Islamic Jihad spokesman in Beirut, denied there were any Islamic Jihad bases in Syria. “All our bases are inside the Palestinian occupied territories,” he said. He did not deny militants received training in Syria.

The last sentence is beautiful. He admits that Syria is aiding his group.

[cknykid]

Brainless thing to do on Sharon’s part, to bomb a place in Syria that is suppose to be a so called terrorist camp. I think he ran out of places to bomb in Palestine and Lebanon. Even if it was a terrorist camp. How hard is it to open a new one? The tax base that Syria has or for that matter any country has, bombing a camp will not solve the problem. What's the big deal with opening a new terrorist camp? This strike does not make Israel safer, infact it will only do the opposite. Other side of the coin is events like these do provide good cheap entertainment.

[Derek]

Brainless thing to do on Sharon’s part, to bomb a place in Syria that is suppose to be a so called terrorist camp. I think he ran out of places to bomb in Palestine and Lebanon. Even if it was a terrorist camp. How hard is it to open a new one? The tax base that Syria has or for that matter any country has, bombing a camp will not solve the problem. What's the big deal with opening a new terrorist camp? This strike does not make Israel safer, infact it will only do the opposite. Other side of the coin is events like these do provide good cheap entertainment.

Where should i start with this.

If you take out enough terrorist camps, they are not going to keep that terrorist crap going, because the bastards will be afraid of them being blown to hell.

So you think terrorists have an unlimited supply of money, huh? you are ignorant, like some people on this Forum

Sharon is doing this for his country. He has had enough of this terrorist shit,

Im behind Israel all the way on this one.

[Nuclear]

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...31006141617&e=1

The UN keeps tying the hands of the Israelis while they are murdered almost weekly yet they talk about a Palestinian nation at the same time.

If Israel listens to the UN, they do nothing as they are slowly cut apart. Meanwhile, the UN seems to not notice that fact that nations like Syria and Saudi Arabia and the palestinian people are trying to destroy the Israelis. Bush said they have the right to defend themselves and I completely agree with him.

This is like the parent "The UN" telling two children fighting that one shouldn't fight back while it sides with the other and seems to not notice when the trouble child hits the kid.

Go Israel! You have my support. Screw the UN!

[djpark121]

I agree. The UN has become corrupt beyond comprehension. It sits there quibbling and complaining while everyday the news is filled with blood-stained students, women, and children. I'm surprised with the way we Americans acted in response to one terrorist attack, that Israel hasn't blown Palestine out of the Middle East. The UN can't tell the United States what to do, so it's picking on somebody smaller. In that, it is becoming morally wrong. It is chastising a nation and criticizing it for defending itself and its people from cowards. The UN must be done away with; it has become corrupt.

[SirRiff]

The UN must be done away with; it has become corrupt.

what about secretly funding rebels/terrorists, sponsoring coups in south america and around the world, sending weapons to among others afganistan/iran/iraq during the 80s, and supporting dictators who kill thier own citizens?

would a nation that did that be considered corrupt and evil and needing to be removed?

SirRiff

[cknykid]

Palestine is a bitter example of how people are made to suffer because of struggle to control land. It is an unfortunate state of affair where the illegal occupation of land by foreign people tends to make the life of native people miserable. Israeli repression in the occupied areas of West Bank and Gaza is for one reason that is to maintain control over land. This conflict has territorial, political, economic and religious dimensions. The UN Security Council has passed resolutions calling for the resolution of these conflicts by taking into account the will of local people and the withdrawal of foreign forces. More than fifty years have passed and these resolutions are still unresolved. In the meantime, the world has changed while the fate of the people of Palestine remains unchanged. Israel’s policy of settlement and territorial expansion in the Arab occupied territories centre on its exploitation of the resources of such lands for colonization. The past three years have proven beyond any doubt that there will be no military solution in Palestine/Israel. On the contrary, the longer the carnage continues, the more entrenched it becomes. Saturday’s suicide bombing in Haifa was carried out by a 29-year-old woman, a lawyer whose brother was killed by the Israeli military in June. Air strikes in Syria will not stop others from following in her footsteps, only expand the circle of people with a reason to so do and reinforce their motivation.

[Nuclear]

The UN must be done away with; it has become corrupt.

what about secretly funding rebels/terrorists, sponsoring coups in south america and around the world, sending weapons to among others afganistan/iran/iraq during the 80s, and supporting dictators who kill thier own citizens?

would a nation that did that be considered corrupt and evil and needing to be removed?

SirRiff

You may not have noticed, but during that time, we had the USSR or CCCP to deal with. Both countries were leaning on the button that would end the world if either threw first. Luckily it didn't. As opposed to risking total nuclear warfare, some of the activities we did to take hits at the other were to have two nations who already didn't like each other and see to it that they could defend themselves from a nation supported by the Russians. That's the way the Cold War was fought and how it was WON. It's over, the threat of nuclear holocaust from the USSR/USA conflict is gone.

Yeah, we have a lot of cleaning up to do, but just ask Uday and Qusay Hussien about that. Ask the Taliban....

Oh yeah, that's right. We already moped them up. We created a few problems in taking out the big problem, the USSR. Now we're cleaning those little problems up.

What would you have had us do? Watch Communism conquer all of Asia and Africa? We're either all be dead today or practicing Communism.

Think about the alternatives. Yeah it was a stinky choice, but only on this planet can you help someone and twenty years later have them threatening to use it on you....

[Whistler]

Yes there are combatants training in training camps in Syria. The Syrians call these people ‘Freedom Fighters’. Israel could have hit these camps any time they wanted. Sharon chose to enter into Syria at this time firstly to send a message to Syria ‘the Wolfowitz Doctrine is moving forward, get on board or suffer the consequences’ and secondly to help quell the call for Yasser Arafat’s head from the conservatives within Israel.

[Craig Read]

Whistler, and Nuclear, you are right on. Doing nothing, the appeasement philosophy, endless dialogue and giving Syria LEGITIMACY with a seat on the UNO security council is not only farcical it is dangerous. The UN and its liberalist and socialist/marxist membership is basically stating that Terror and defying civilisation and nation state security is not only legitimate but to be extolled. Those who state that we can beat the Afghans, the Iraqi's, or cannot find 'all' the Terrorists have been wrong every time.

Hamas and the other various Jihadi groups will join Tiny Bin Laden - pushing up daisy roots somewhere.

[cknykid]

ENIN, West Bank, Oct. 5 — It was a few minutes past 8 a.m. on Saturday when Hanadi Jaradat's parents last saw her. The 27-year-old apprentice lawyer was in a hurry as she walked down the steep, narrow streets of this old Arab town, telling her parents she had a land contract to complete, for a fee of $500 in Israeli shekels, a small fortune for any impoverished family in Jenin.At the parting, Ms. Jaradat was barely six hours away from her death. In that time, she met with accomplices from the Islamic Jihad militant group, journeyed 30 miles west across the hills to the Israeli city of Haifa, changed from a traditional black Arab cloak and headdress into jeans and a ponytail that made her indistinguishable from the casual weekenders of Israel, and walked into a seaside restaurant to detonate a body-belt bomb. In the blast, she killed herself and 19 others, all Israelis — 14 Jews, 3 of them children, and 5 Arab Christians.What happened in those hours is the focus now of Israeli investigators, who want to know how Ms. Jaradat reached Haifa, crossing the path of a 400-mile barrier of electrified fencing that Israel is erecting in the hope of halting Palestinian attacks. An Israeli security official said on Sunday that preliminary investigation showed that the bomber had entered Israel through a "hole" in the 90 miles of fence that have been completed in northern Israel — perhaps, although the official did not say so, through a gap that had been left lightly guarded just east of the Palestinian village of Qaffin.Ms. Jaradat's parents, in Jenin, say questions about the bombing and their daughter's involvement with Islamic Jihad are baffling ones. Right up to the moment of their last farewell, they said, they had no indication that their daughter had any contacts with Islamic militants — no sense, they said, that she had any ambition but to establish her career as a lawyer, marry and have children.Her father, Tayseer, age 50, moves slowly, suffering from a degenerative liver disease that made it difficult to keep up with his daughter as they walked on Saturday morning, Ms. Jaradat ostensibly to her law office, her parents to the vegetable market in the center of Jenin. So she said she would walk ahead, her parents said, and waved as she walked away, smiling — just as she appeared later, on television, in the traditional suicide bomber's video she made, when she closed the Koran and smiled, shyly, as though preparing for a graduation or a wedding."She walked faster than us, saying `Hurry, hurry,' then she went ahead," said Rahmeh Jaradat, 51, the bomber's mother, who gathered her seven surviving children around her as she spoke at her brother-in-law's house in Jenin, where the family moved before Israeli troops arrived in Jenin in the predawn hours of Sunday to demolish their home, the routine punishment for suicide bombers' families."She gave us the impression she was in a hurry to complete that deal," her mother said. "She was happy," her father said.The suicide bombing was one of more than 100 in the past three years of the uprising that Palestinians call the Aqsa intifada, attacks that have killed about 430 people, about half the intifada's Israeli victims. But the Haifa attack was heard around the world, because it was followed by an Israeli airstrike in Syria, and prompted the United Nations Security Council to meet in a special session on Sunday.In Israel, the Haifa attack cast a heavy pall over Yom Kippur, the Jewish Day of Atonement. In a relative's home in the Old Quarter of Jenin, a short walk from the field of tumbled stones that is all that is left of their old house, the Jaradats had their own story of loss, before that of Hanadi — the shooting death in Jenin four months ago of their oldest son, Fadi, 23, and his cousin Saleh, 31, during an Israeli crackdown.But a visitor meeting the Jaradats found no overt grieving for Hanadi, and no sympathy for the Haifa victims, at least none the family would acknowledge. Jenin is ringed by Israeli armor, a city not far from Lebanon and Syria that has become a stronghold of Islamic Jihad, with simmering hostilities among its 30,000 people. Eighteen months ago, in one of the harshest attacks of the intifada, the government of Prime Minister Ariel Sharon cracked down with infantry, tanks and bulldozers that killed dozens of Palestinians and left an entire neighborhood in rubble.Much about the Jaradats suggested the careworn but proud gentility found in many Palestinian homes. There was elaborate courtesy, and thick cups of Turkish coffee. The family recounted a common Palestinian saga — the father's long years working in Israel as a house painter, the struggle to support Hanadi when she studied law in Jordan, the sense of hopelessness once Israel closed its borders to Palestinian workers after the conflict began, the reliance on the pittances Fadi, their son, could earn working in the vegetable market.But on the subject of the bombing, the responses sounded programmed, as though the family were more concerned about the pervasiveness of Islamic holy war in Jenin than in voicing their innermost thoughts. In place of tears, there were wan smiles when the family talked about Hanadi's death, and a studied indifference to the carnage she caused. The parents spoke of the attack as "God's will."When asked if they had any words of sorrow for the Haifa victims and their families, a silence fell. Eventually, Mrs. Jaradat spoke up. "Tell them they should think about why our daughter did this," she said. After another pause, she continued: "She has done what she has done, thank God, and I am sure that what she has done is not a shameful thing. She has done it for the sake of her people." Mr. Jaradat said: "I don't want to talk about my feelings, my pain, my suffering. But I can tell you that our people believe that what Hanadi has done is justified. Imagine yourself watching the Israelis kill your son, your nephew, destroying your house — they are pushing our people into a corner, they are provoking actions like these by our people."The bombing and its aftermath prompted Yasir Arafat, the Palestinian leader, to appoint an "emergency cabinet" to guide the Palestinians through the crisis. [but the new prime minister, Ahmed Qurei, said Monday that while he hoped to negotiate a truce to halt suicide bombings, there would be no use of force against groups like Islamic Jihad, as urged by the United States. "I will not listen to the Americans; I will listen to our national rights," he told The Associated Press.]On its face, the bombing appeared to have exposed the new Israeli barrier as a sort of Maginot Line, which failed in one of its first crucial tests.Another issue to be investigated is that Islamic Jihad, normally conservative on the role of women, used a woman to carry out the bombing.Yet another point of inquiry for the investigators is the fact that Ms. Jaradat changed into Western clothes. In Jenin, her parents said, they had never seen her wear anything outside her home but a traditional Arab robe and a headdress. Somewhere along the road to Haifa, she found time to change and perhaps to record the video released by Islamic Jihad after the bombing, which showed Ms. Jaradat wearing a black and silver sash, the colors of Islamic holy war, inscribed with the words that open the Koran, "There is no God but God."Like many suicide bombers' families, the Jaradats said they had never suspected that their daughter had any links to Islamic militant groups until her photograph flashed up on television on Saturday night as the bomber identified by Islamic Jihad. Hours earlier, they said, they had heard about the attack, and called her on her cellphone to urge her to come home early in case of trouble with Israeli troops. "But her phone was blocked — she didn't answer," Mrs. Jaradat said.Hanadi Jaradat was deeply religious, rising before 5 each morning to pray and read the Koran. But a new radicalism crept into her remarks about Israelis after her brother died, they said."She was full of pain about that," Mrs. Jaradat said. "Some nights, she woke screaming, saying she had nightmares about Fadi." Last week, the family said, Ms. Jaradat went to an Israeli military unit to request a permit for her father to go to Haifa for treatment for his liver ailment. "The Israelis told her to get out and not come back," Mrs. Jaradat said. "After Fadi, no member of the Jaradat family was going to get a permit to go to Haifa."

[Black Dog]

Finally, Isaeral is my Hero. The terrorist training camps are something the US should have gone after. Thats where all the terrorism starts, the training camps.

It about damn time.

I'm confused. An unilateral act of aggression against a soverign country (a blatant violation of international law)is hailed as a heroic act of self defense. Wha...?

If you take out enough terrorist camps, they are not going to keep that terrorist crap going, because the bastards will be afraid of them being blown to hell.

It doesn't require much training to strap on a vest loaded with dynamite and nails. And, obviously, death is not a deterrent to people who are already willing to die for their cause.

Sharon is doing this for his country. He has had enough of this terrorist shit,

Im behind Israel all the way on this one.

Whatever. Sharon (the war criminal) is gleefuly seizing the opportunity to continue Israel's rapacious, illegal expansion into the OT and to secure Israel's military hegemony in the region. At the same time, he gets to put on a big show of striking a blow in the war on terror, while ignoring growing criticism of his security failures at home.

To all the Likud apologists here, I just have this to say: are Israelis any safer? Are fewer Israelis dying under the Likud hawks' leadership?

[cknykid]

There are worse things than death and one of them is taking a person’s freedom away.

[Whistler]

The burning question is “When the Palestinian problem is solved where are the Arabian Governments going to divert their subjects eyes?”

They all realize if it was not for the “Palestinian Cause” holding the attention of the Arabian people they would be in deep trouble.

[KrustyKidd]

I'm confused. An unilateral act of aggression against a soverign country (a blatant violation of international law)is hailed as a heroic act of self defense. Wha...?

It doesn't require much training to strap on a vest loaded with dynamite and nails. And, obviously, death is not a deterrent to people who are already willing to die for their cause.

Whatever. Sharon (the war criminal) is gleefuly seizing the opportunity to continue Israel's rapacious, illegal expansion into the OT and to secure Israel's military hegemony in the region. At the same time, he gets to put on a big show of striking a blow in the war on terror, while ignoring growing criticism of his security failures at home.

To all the Likud apologists here, I just have this to say: are Israelis any safer? Are fewer Israelis dying under the Likud hawks' leadership?

The attack wasn't on a soveign nation. It was on Assad's personal prison, the so called country of Syria. A multi million inmate gulag much like Iraq. I wonder whether the Syrian people have had much input into whether or not they like having these camps on their soil? Why do you bash democracy and uplift dictatorships to God like status? Can you think of any begnign reason why Syria has these training camps on her soil? I can think of many but none of them involve any good will towards Israel.

And while it does not take much smarts to strap a vest filled with explosives on, it does take a lot of training to make it reliable, to indoctrinate these bombers and motivate them so that they can calmly walk the streets of Israel passing as a normal citizen while carrying a bomb made in a kitchen with enough TNT to blow up a building. It takes training to learn how to fire weapons, infiltrate Jewish society, handle volitile explosive material and work with fuses without blowing themselves up prior to the desired contact with women and children.

Ever been to Israel? You can cross it in about an hour. It has virtually no size as we are accustomed to yet they have on all sides enemies who wish to destroy them, see every one of them dead. No buffer zone of any real sort, especially in this day and age of missiles and rapid warfare so I can imagine that Mr Sharone feels he can take a little drastic action to secure the people he has sworn to protect. You might too if there was absolutely zero room for error.

Are Israelis any safer? Prior to the sucicide bombings the Israeli left wing was opposed to the government and their hawish stance. Now they are for it. They think they are.

[Black Dog]

The attack wasn't on a soveign nation. It was on Assad's personal prison, the so called country of Syria. A multi million inmate gulag much like Iraq. I wonder whether the Syrian people have had much input into whether or not they like having these camps on their soil? Why do you bash democracy and uplift dictatorships to God like status? Can you think of any begnign reason why Syria has these training camps on her soil? I can think of many but none of them involve any good will towards Israel.

Totally irrelevant. "But they're bad guys!" Is not a valid justification for violating international law. If Israel felt the Syrian camps presented a threat, there are ways to go about bringing the issue to the world's attention, outside of unilateral use of force.

Ever been to Israel? You can cross it in about an hour. It has virtually no size as we are accustomed to yet they have on all sides enemies who wish to destroy them, see every one of them dead. No buffer zone of any real sort, especially in this day and age of missiles and rapid warfare so I can imagine that Mr Sharone feels he can take a little drastic action to secure the people he has sworn to protect. You might too if there was absolutely zero room for error.

Spare me the bogus hand-wringing about Israel's pending demise. With the largest and most sophisticated military in the region, the unequivocable support of the worl;d's largest military power and nuclear weapons on their side, the survival of Israel is only an issue to people seeking to deflect attention away from the state's crimes.

Are Israelis any safer? Prior to the sucicide bombings the Israeli left wing was opposed to the government and their hawish stance. Now they are for it. They think they are.

Thinking don't make it so. The ever-climbing death toll on both sides seems to bely your statement.

[Neal.F.]

Israel has been showing the utmost restraint ever since its inception. It would have been fully justified in wiping every Arab country that ever attacked it off the map.

Their citizens are being slaughtered by terrorists (synonym for pathetic bloody cowards), and as far as I'm concerned they are fully justified in pursuing these cowards to their sources...their trainer....their funder...and even states and governmnets that provide them with the means to operate and provide tehm safe harbour.

Long Live Israel!

[Black Dog]

Israel has been showing the utmost restraint ever since its inception. It would have been fully justified in wiping every Arab country that ever attacked it off the map.

Thank god nutbars like you don't run the show, then (though Sharon is close). Youi'd start a world war just to make a point.

Their citizens are being slaughtered by terrorists (synonym for pathetic bloody cowards), and as far as I'm concerned they are fully justified in pursuing these cowards to their sources...their trainer....their funder...and even states and governmnets that provide them with the means to operate and provide tehm safe harbour.

What part of "cycle of violence" don't you pinheads understand? As a wiser man than I said "An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind." The ongoing violence is a direct result of 35 years of humiliation and suffering inflicted upon the Palesitinian people and the ongoing crime that is Israel's bloody expansionism. yet people still see the strongest nation in the region as the victim.

[Derek]

What part of "cycle of violence" don't you pinheads understand? As a wiser man than I said "An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind." The ongoing violence is a direct result of 35 years of humiliation and suffering inflicted upon the Palesitinian people and the ongoing crime that is Israel's bloody expansionism. yet people still see the strongest nation in the region as the victim.

Please don't call us pinheads when you know nothing.

I don't believe in this "eye for an eye" shit, and i never will. The Jewish People settled the land first. They were removed by the romans in 185 AD. Lets not get into a argument about who was there first, I am clearing the air.

Israel has everyright to defend itself.

The palestinians need to fight the "correct" way, and not this cowardly "blow myself up for allah" crap. America isn't going to put up with it forever.

Israel doesn't want to expand. you have it all wrong. They are one of the VERY FEW nations, commited to wiping terrorists off the face of the planet. Its about time they start taking out camps.

America should be doing this type of stuff also.

Thats where terrorism starts the Fund. Islam Training camps. Taking those off the map=far less terrorists.

Yes everyone wants peace, but that can't happen when you have the palestinians breaking Cease-fire agreements left and right. You can't have peace when palestinians target civilians.

You can't have peace when you have Fund. Islam. Thats my whole point. There i said it.

[KrustyKidd]

The attack wasn't on a soveign nation. It was on Assad's personal prison, the so called country of Syria. A multi million inmate gulag much like Iraq. I wonder whether the Syrian people have had much input into whether or not they like having these camps on their soil? Why do you bash democracy and uplift dictatorships to God like status? Can you think of any begnign reason why Syria has these training camps on her soil? I can think of many but none of them involve any good will towards Israel.

Totally irrelevant. "But they're bad guys!" Is not a valid justification for violating international law. If Israel felt the Syrian camps presented a threat, there are ways to go about bringing the issue to the world's attention, outside of unilateral use of force.

Ever been to Israel? You can cross it in about an hour. It has virtually no size as we are accustomed to yet they have on all sides enemies who wish to destroy them, see every one of them dead. No buffer zone of any real sort, especially in this day and age of missiles and rapid warfare so I can imagine that Mr Sharone feels he can take a little drastic action to secure the people he has sworn to protect. You might too if there was absolutely zero room for error.

Spare me the bogus hand-wringing about Israel's pending demise. With the largest and most sophisticated military in the region, the unequivocable support of the worl;d's largest military power and nuclear weapons on their side, the survival of Israel is only an issue to people seeking to deflect attention away from the state's crimes.

Are Israelis any safer? Prior to the sucicide bombings the Israeli left wing was opposed to the government and their hawish stance. Now they are for it. They think they are.

Thinking don't make it so. The ever-climbing death toll on both sides seems to bely your statement.

Black Dog, you were the one that brought up soveign nation. I just wanted to point out that it was not.

Israel's size is importent. There is no room for error. Even with a strong military there is still once again no room for error. I'll say it again if you wish but I think that scince you have seen how suicide bombers get through into Israel you understand that Israel must always be batting a 100 wheras the terrrorists and their supporters (Syria) only have to get lucky once.

As for Israelis thinking they are safer I didn't want to belittle you or I and say that we don't matter in this formula but I will now. They think that they are safer using this approach and they are the ones who reap the rewards for success or punishment for folly. As for expertise in these matters we have none and they have much. They have tried appeasement, money, land, self government and all have met with terror. Just wondering what revolutionary new method you would bring to them?

[Neal.F.]

Black Dog (or should I call him RED Dog?) misses the point indeed. Ehud barak was ready to give the Palestinians 97% of their demands... 97% !!!!!!! and what happens? The Palestinians showed their true colours and took their rocks- er-marbles, and walked away... Not only walked away, but started another intifada, demonstrating for all to see that they never wanted peace.... That article one still stanbds and always will: To push the Jews into the sea.

They don't want their own palestinian state alongside Israel. they want a Palestinian state ( a police state, no less) INSTEAD of Israel.

[KrustyKidd]

No kidding. And the new PM of Palistine said the other day that he wasn't going to dissarm militent groups by force. You know, the ones who scream death to Jews and want to kill every Israeli? So much for peace and co-existence. The only democratic country in a sea of slavery, the only prosperous nation in ocean of opppression, is it any wonder we support it?

I suppose that the left will now blame Israel for this one too?

"In violence on the Israeli-Lebanese border, a 4-year-old Lebanese boy was killed early Tuesday in a village, apparently after an anti-aircraft shell or mortar fired from within Lebanon toward Israel fell short.

Lebanese security officials and residents in Houla said Ali Yassin was killed and his twin brother wounded in the explosion. Israel's army said at least three mortar shells were shot from Lebanon toward northeastern Israel."

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