Canadians Killed In Afghanistan

Black Dog · October 2, 2003

This was bound to heppen. We need to pull our troops out of the mess the U.S. has created in that country.

Lost in Manitoba · October 2, 2003

And I'm of the opposite thought BD. Afghanistan is such a poor, down-trodden country (if you can call it that), that I would much rather see more troops and more action taken there. To pull out now is to create a permenant enemy.

nova_satori · October 3, 2003

I must disagree Blackdog. Afganistan was a legitamate war. It needs more support from more nations. iraq on the other hand...well

theloniusfleabag · October 3, 2003

Dear Lost in Manitoba and Black Dog,

Afghanistan has been invaded many times, and has never 'lost'. Any foriegner will always be an intruder, NEVER a 'liberator'.

Derek · October 3, 2003

Afiganistan needs a little more support I think.

If two canadians get killed, thats not a reason to pull out.

That would make you guys look like a bunch of cowards.

SirRiff · October 3, 2003

afganistan is the right kind of war to fight. its international, triggered by an obvious terror attack, the people are suffering badly, it would obviously be a future threat if left unchecked, a failure would set back UN humanitarian missions 50 years, it might be an example of multilateralism in the new century, and we are already commited and cannot send a message of weakness.

i hope the families of the soldiers get alot of well wishes.

SirRiff

RScott · October 3, 2003

Here.
This was bound to heppen. We need to pull our troops out of the mess the U.S. has created in that country.

I Disagree, We have a moral obligation to help clean up Afghanistan and restore a free loving and peacefull nation, where people have indivual rights and freedom.

War is nasty business and people die, it is a true tragedy and our hearts go out to our fallen soldiers, the Just and the Brave.

The needs of the many far out weigh the needs of the few!

Black Dog · October 3, 2003

War is nasty business and people die, it is a true tragedy and our hearts go out to our fallen soldiers, the Just and the Brave.

But we're not there to fight a war. We're there under a UN mandate to keep the peace, not prosecute a war as a proxy of the U.S.

Now, if it's a peacekeeping operation, how can we be expected to keep a non-existent peace? Perhaps if America had stuck around and saw the reconstruction through instead of galloping off to trash another dusty third-world country, Afghanistan would be a little bettter off today.

As it is, the reconstruction is floundering. Kharazi is viewed (rightly) as a U.S. puppet with no local power base beyond Kabul. While imperial apologists are quick to point to improvements in human rights (such as the refrain of "at least women can go to school now."), these are virtually non-existent outside the capital. The Afghan countryside is dominated by tribal warfare and a surprisingly (for a group that was said to have been wiped out) energetic Taliban, which continues to enforce it's version of sharia on anyone they get their mitts on. It's bloody mess and it's looking more and more like there's no plan for rebuilding the country.

You wanna start rebuilding Afghanistan? Start by turfing the current group of U.S. quislings led by Kharachi and bringing in a genuinely representative local government. Push for more resources to train, equip and pay local security forces (Afghanistan has been the punching bag for the imperial powers for hundreds of years. Consequently, foreign troops will always be viewed with suspicion). Push the U.S. to stop it's support of Pakistan's military dictatorship, whose ISI security service continues to provide aid and comfort to Al Q'aeda and Taliban elements. Once some semblence of security is acheived, let international NGOs in to do the work of rebuilding the country.

Afiganistan needs a little more support I think.
If two canadians get killed, thats not a reason to pull out.

That would make you guys look like a bunch of cowards. [\QUOTE]

Yes, let's throw away more lives so that other countries don't laugh at us. What, the more Candians die, the better the chances that we'll get to hang with the cool nations at lunch? Goody.

theloniusfleabag · October 5, 2003

Dear Black Dog,

Afghanistan was littered with mines thanks mostly to the Soviets. I would not be surprised at all if the Canidians were killed by a forgotten soviet mine. That country is in dire need of assistance, but to what end? The will of the population? Then the western world needs to leave them be.

You are very correct in saying Shari'a law is the enemy, yet it is what the majority want. How does the western world aim to save them from themselves?

KrustyKidd · October 5, 2003

Here.
This was bound to heppen. We need to pull our troops out of the mess the U.S. has created in that country.

Yes, it was so pristine before. Now look at what the US has done to the rubble and starving people who were forbidden to whistle while they looked for something to eat. Pull our troops out because they suffered casualties? We had better, otherwise we may get accused of aiding world peace.

Countries do not operate in vacums. Have you forgotten what had filled the void a mere two years ago? It's a tough one but the US pulled out because the UN said it would step in. Perfect example of why they are still in Iraq. If we left, Iran, Al Queda, Taliban and God knows who else would step in and I'm sure would do little or nothing to promote world peace, love or Bobby Sherman. As a bonus point for evil they would kill the Afgans on a scale a US led war could never match in day to day administration of the population.