Ladyjen Posted November 4, 2006 Report Posted November 4, 2006 If the Dems take both the House and the Senate, will they have the power to impeach Bush and can they charge him with war crimes? Quote
Riverwind Posted November 4, 2006 Report Posted November 4, 2006 If the Dems take both the House and the Senate, will they have the power to impeach Bush and can they charge him with war crimes?It would be a very dumb move. If they win then Bush will be a complete lame duck for the next two years since he will have zero moral authority left. The Dems really need to focus the future and demostrate that they can address issues that Americans care about. Quote To fly a plane, you need both a left wing and a right wing.
Ricki Bobbi Posted November 4, 2006 Report Posted November 4, 2006 They will have the power but they won't do it. Impeachment of a serious President is a very serious matter. That is why it has only be done three times in US history. The impeachments of Johnson and Clinton were poltical gamesmanship and not in the best interest of the country. Nixon is the only clear cut case of where a President should have been impeached. Say what you will about Bush in Iraq but it isn't impeachable... The Democrats want to appear like a statesmanlike party who is above the fray. Nancy Pelosi is making that very clear to any House candidate who even mentions impeachment... Quote Dion is a verbose, mild-mannered academic with a shaky grasp of English who seems unfit to chair a university department, much less lead a country. Randall Denley, Ottawa Citizen
Guest American Woman Posted November 4, 2006 Report Posted November 4, 2006 Grounds to Impeach Bush There most definitely are legitimate grounds for impeachment. I would love to see it happen, except it would make Cheney president, and I think he's much worse than Bush. So I'll just be content to see the Dems hold Bush in check for the next two years should they gain majority in the House and Senate. Quote
ft.niagara Posted November 4, 2006 Report Posted November 4, 2006 Grounds to Impeach BushThere most definitely are legitimate grounds for impeachment. I would love to see it happen, except it would make Cheney president, and I think he's much worse than Bush. So I'll just be content to see the Dems hold Bush in check for the next two years should they gain majority in the House and Senate. To impeach a president would take two years of hearings by the time it is all done. Cheney is not interested in becoming President. Perhaps the Democrats can impeach Bush, take maybe a year and a half, and then Cheney can be President for six months. Then when the Democrats elect a President, he/she will have a bulls eye painted on their back. If it is not real, it can be setup. Quote
jdobbin Posted November 4, 2006 Report Posted November 4, 2006 It would be a very dumb move. If they win then Bush will be a complete lame duck for the next two years since he will have zero moral authority left. The Dems really need to focus the future and demostrate that they can address issues that Americans care about. I think you're right. They will focus on winning the presidency. Unless there is a major change somewhere that suggests Bush is culpable of something, I think they will let him be impotent in the White House. Quote
Riverwind Posted November 4, 2006 Report Posted November 4, 2006 Unless there is a major change somewhere that suggests Bush is culpable of something, I think they will let him be impotent n the White House.Even if 'evidence' surfaces the democrats would be better off letting the media and historians give the man the punishment he deserves. Pushing for impeachment would likely re-unify the republican coalition of evangelicals, economic conservatives and hawks. Quote To fly a plane, you need both a left wing and a right wing.
Ladyjen Posted November 4, 2006 Author Report Posted November 4, 2006 Thank you to everybody. This has clarified some things for me. Quote
B. Max Posted November 5, 2006 Report Posted November 5, 2006 The Islamic terrorists certainly hope so. They are saying they hope the dems win. They want the dems to pull the troops out of Iraq so they can get on with destroying the US. Like Bush said, you are either with us or you are with the terrorists. Now the terrorists have confirmed that. Quote
jdobbin Posted November 5, 2006 Report Posted November 5, 2006 The Islamic terrorists certainly hope so. They are saying they hope the dems win. They want the dems to pull the troops out of Iraq so they can get on with destroying the US. Like Bush said, you are either with us or you are with the terrorists. Now the terrorists have confirmed that. Bush probably should have done a better job fighting the war in Iraq then, don't you think? Quote
B. Max Posted November 5, 2006 Report Posted November 5, 2006 The Islamic terrorists certainly hope so. They are saying they hope the dems win. They want the dems to pull the troops out of Iraq so they can get on with destroying the US. Like Bush said, you are either with us or you are with the terrorists. Now the terrorists have confirmed that. Bush probably should have done a better job fighting the war in Iraq then, don't you think? I don't know, define a better job. Quote
jdobbin Posted November 5, 2006 Report Posted November 5, 2006 I don't know, define a better job. How about winning it? Even the military is asking for Rumsfeld to resign but Bush says he is there till the end. Quote
Riverwind Posted November 5, 2006 Report Posted November 5, 2006 The Islamic terrorists certainly hope so. They are saying they hope the dems win. They want the dems to pull the troops out of Iraq so they can get on with destroying the US. Like Bush said, you are either with us or you are with the terrorists. Now the terrorists have confirmed that.What a pile of B.S. Do you have one shred of evidence that the 'terrorists' actually care who is in power? Have you forgotten that Al Qaeda wants to US to beat up on Muslims because it brings more supporters to their cause? Quote To fly a plane, you need both a left wing and a right wing.
B. Max Posted November 5, 2006 Report Posted November 5, 2006 What a pile of B.S. Do you have one shred of evidence that the 'terrorists' actually care who is in power? Have you forgotten that Al Qaeda wants to US to beat up on Muslims because it brings more supporters to their cause? You must live in cave not to have known about it. It's been all over both fox and cnn. http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52775 Quote
jdobbin Posted November 5, 2006 Report Posted November 5, 2006 You must live in cave not to have known about it. It's been all over both fox and cnn.http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52775 Is this the same worldnetdaily that says that the U.S. shot down Flight 93? Quote
B. Max Posted November 5, 2006 Report Posted November 5, 2006 You must live in cave not to have known about it. It's been all over both fox and cnn. http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52775 Is this the same worldnetdaily that says that the U.S. shot down Flight 93? Did they. As if that would have anything to do with it. So far the dems can claim convicted felons, illegals and now the Islamic terrorists as their base of support. Oh yeah I left somebody out. The easily duped. Quote
jdobbin Posted November 5, 2006 Report Posted November 5, 2006 Did they. As if that would have anything to do with it. So far the dems can claim convicted felons, illegals and now the Islamic terrorists as their base of support. Oh yeah I left somebody out. The easily duped. If you read the woldnetdaily, you would see they have a report that the U.S. shot down their own plane Flight 93. You believe that? Republicans can claims there own financial and sexual scandals. It is Iraq though that has them on the ropes. Quote
B. Max Posted November 5, 2006 Report Posted November 5, 2006 Did they. As if that would have anything to do with it. So far the dems can claim convicted felons, illegals and now the Islamic terrorists as their base of support. Oh yeah I left somebody out. The easily duped. If you read the woldnetdaily, you would see they have a report that the U.S. shot down their own plane Flight 93. You believe that? Republicans can claims there own financial and sexual scandals. It is Iraq though that has them on the ropes. Maybe they do so what. If the dems get power then what. The war will over. What nonsense. The war was on for years while Clinton was running the show but he wouldn't admit it or fight it and the result was 911. If the dems get power the only difference will be is battle field will once again return to the US. Quote
jdobbin Posted November 5, 2006 Report Posted November 5, 2006 Maybe they do so what. If the dems get power then what. The war will over. What nonsense. The war was on for years while Clinton was running the show but he wouldn't admit it or fight it and the result was 911. If the dems get power the only difference will be is battle field will once again return to the US. September 11 happened on Bush's watch. Iraq is totally mismanaged. Three U.S. soldiers die each day. And for what? A civil war? Quote
B. Max Posted November 5, 2006 Report Posted November 5, 2006 Maybe they do so what. If the dems get power then what. The war will over. What nonsense. The war was on for years while Clinton was running the show but he wouldn't admit it or fight it and the result was 911. If the dems get power the only difference will be is battle field will once again return to the US. September 11 happened on Bush's watch. Iraq is totally mismanaged. Three U.S. soldiers die each day. And for what? A civil war? 911 would have been planned on Clintons watch. More Americans died in one day, the 911 day. They are fighting to see that the Islamic terrorists don't take over Iraq and then bring the war back to the US like they did on 911. Quote
jdobbin Posted November 5, 2006 Report Posted November 5, 2006 911 would have been planned on Clintons watch. More Americans died in one day, the 911 day. They are fighting to see that the Islamic terrorists don't take over Iraq and then bring the war back to the US like they did on 911. There was no attacks under Clinton's watch. The terrorists only attack under Republican watch it seems. Quote
Riverwind Posted November 5, 2006 Report Posted November 5, 2006 You must live in cave not to have known about it. It's been all over both fox and cnn.Frankly, I think would pretty dumb for Americans to vote based on who a few terrorists like or don't like. Americans should be voting for what in their best interest and if their best interest happens to be something that a few terrorists like as well then so be it. You must think Americans are stupid if you think they would be persuaded by an argument that says: "you can't vote for the party that will fix the mess that Bush created because it might make some terrorists happy". Quote To fly a plane, you need both a left wing and a right wing.
jdobbin Posted November 5, 2006 Report Posted November 5, 2006 Frankly, I think would pretty dumb for Americans to vote based on who a few terrorists like or don't like. Americans should be voting for what in their best interest and if their best interest happens to be something that a few terrorists like as well then so be it. You must think Americans are stupid if you think they would be persuaded by an argument that says: "you can't vote for the party that will fix the mess that Bush created because it might make some terrorists happy". Or the terrorists wish to keep the U.S. in Iraq and dying at the rate of three or four a day while inflaming Muslim anger. Who knows? Anyways, the bile and fear from the right wing in the U.S. as well as Canadian in support of Bush is palpable. Quote
Riverwind Posted November 5, 2006 Report Posted November 5, 2006 Who knows?And my point is who cares? It is a bogus argument. Quote To fly a plane, you need both a left wing and a right wing.
B. Max Posted November 5, 2006 Report Posted November 5, 2006 911 would have been planned on Clintons watch. More Americans died in one day, the 911 day. They are fighting to see that the Islamic terrorists don't take over Iraq and then bring the war back to the US like they did on 911. There was no attacks under Clinton's watch. The terrorists only attack under Republican watch it seems. Actually there was. The USS Cole and the two African embassy's. Still, 911 would have been planned on Clinton's watch. Quote
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