Ricki Bobbi Posted November 7, 2006 Report Posted November 7, 2006 This is a typical tactic of the rightwing...inventing a false premise.Nobody is suggesting that the EU should "dictate" to us. Your false premise is that by attending this summit Harper would be dictated to. Just not true. The EU put Kyoto on the agenda after the Canadian Government officially announced they would not try and meet the unrealistic goals of the protocol. It was made clear, both publicly and through backchannels, that Harper did not want it on the agenda. They went ahead and put it on the agenda anyways. Dictate, scold, chastise ... whatever term you want to use. The only purpose of having that item on the agenda for the meeting would have been for the EU to express their displeasure at the PM. Our Prime Minister could use his valuable time for much more constructive things. With the 'lockdown' in effect some people might consider that 'typical tactic' comment as trolling. Quote Dion is a verbose, mild-mannered academic with a shaky grasp of English who seems unfit to chair a university department, much less lead a country. Randall Denley, Ottawa Citizen
gerryhatrick Posted November 7, 2006 Author Report Posted November 7, 2006 With the 'lockdown' in effect some people might consider that 'typical tactic' comment as trolling. Are you serious? Take a hint Ricki, people are SICK and TIRED of your constant accusations and forum rule citations. I am free to identify what I believe to be a political tactic of the rightwing. That is VERY mild stuff, so how about you grab some perspective and start over. thx. Quote Conservative Party of Canada taking image advice from US Republican pollster: http://allpoliticsnow.com
geoffrey Posted November 7, 2006 Report Posted November 7, 2006 If Harper gets scolded on Kyoto, I'd expect him to stand up and tell the EU to maybe fulfill their NATO obligations, grow some balls and help us out in Afghanistan. Good call. That's as good of a reason as any for him to go. I don't know why Harper things he lives in a cocoon, but he needs to deal with the outside world eventually. Telling the EU to put up or shut up on Afghanistan would be a great first step. Quote RealRisk.ca - (Latest Post: Prosecutors have no "Skin in the Game") --
gc1765 Posted November 7, 2006 Report Posted November 7, 2006 I agree. If the EU wants to have a discussion on global warming, let's have a discussion on global warming AND afghanistan. On the issue of afghanistan, Harper should really "stand up for Canada".....hmmm now why does that sound familiar? Quote Almost three thousand people died needlessly and tragically at the World Trade Center on September 11; ten thousand Africans die needlessly and tragically every single day-and have died every single day since September 11-of AIDS, TB, and malaria. We need to keep September 11 in perspective, especially because the ten thousand daily deaths are preventable. - Jeffrey Sachs (from his book "The End of Poverty")
geoffrey Posted November 7, 2006 Report Posted November 7, 2006 It's true. Why would he throw away his best bargining chip in helping out our mission over there? One criticism of Harper during the campaign is that he had little foreign affairs experience. It's showing. Quote RealRisk.ca - (Latest Post: Prosecutors have no "Skin in the Game") --
Ricki Bobbi Posted November 7, 2006 Report Posted November 7, 2006 It's not that simple. What could he accomplish by putting Kyoto and Afghanistan on the table at the same time? He has no interest in signing on to Kyoto. Period. NATO already sees it needs to do more in Afghanistan. Either the help will come *OR* Canada will be part of the International mission withdrawing. Lacking in Foreign Affairs experience. Jason Kenney said it best in QP yesterday. First of all, Mr. Speaker, I would note that the last Liberal prime minister cancelled two EU-Canada summits. Quote Dion is a verbose, mild-mannered academic with a shaky grasp of English who seems unfit to chair a university department, much less lead a country. Randall Denley, Ottawa Citizen
JAh-man Posted November 8, 2006 Report Posted November 8, 2006 I'm glad that Harper isn't signing on to this, it gives us a good reason to overthrow him using non confidence which is going to happen in the next few months.. When you underestimate the will of the people, you end up like Bush who gravely underestimated the people of his country, and is paying the price as we speak.. Harpers next.. Quote
cybercoma Posted November 8, 2006 Report Posted November 8, 2006 I'm glad that Harper isn't signing on to this, it gives us a good reason to overthrow him using non confidence which is going to happen in the next few months.. When you underestimate the will of the people, you end up like Bush who gravely underestimated the people of his country, and is paying the price as we speak.. Harpers next.. I happen to like Harper and I'm one of the people of this country. Quote
jdobbin Posted November 8, 2006 Report Posted November 8, 2006 It's true. Why would he throw away his best bargining chip in helping out our mission over there?One criticism of Harper during the campaign is that he had little foreign affairs experience. It's showing. It is curious why he wouldn't go. It is important push for Afghanistan as long as we are there. He should have sucked up any criticism on Kyoto and blasted right back on Afghanistan. Quote
scribblet Posted November 8, 2006 Report Posted November 8, 2006 Me too....although I would have liked to see Dianne Ablonsky have a crack at the leadership. It's almost surreal how liberals can't get over their loss of power, it seems to be clouding their judgement . Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
cybercoma Posted November 8, 2006 Report Posted November 8, 2006 Well you are a miniority.. It doesn't have to be a majority, just enough to win more seats than the other parties. Quote
JAh-man Posted November 8, 2006 Report Posted November 8, 2006 You still din't answer the question.. If you were really in touch with whats actualy happening in parliament, the conservatives are teetering closer to non confidence everyday.. And I'm not liberal I'm NDP, the party who is going to finish you guys off.. Do you even watch parliament?? The NDP were responsible for overturning the liberals.. I could give a rats ass what happens to either of you.. But it is sad how a vocal miniority can perpetuate the illusion of superiority.. Very typical of th macho conservative cowboy attitude wich frequents this page.. you guys where cow boy hats and ride around on horses.. Quote
scribblet Posted November 8, 2006 Report Posted November 8, 2006 You still din't answer the question.. If you were really in touch with whats actualy happening in parliament, the conservatives are teetering closer to non confidence everyday.. And I'm not liberal I'm NDP, the party who is going to finish you guys off.. Do you even watch parliament?? The NDP were responsible for overturning the liberals.. I could give a rats ass what happens to either of you.. But it is sad how a vocal miniority can perpetuate the illusion of superiority.. Very typical of th macho conservative cowboy attitude wich frequents this page.. you guys where cow boy hats and ride around on horses.. ROTFLMAO now I've heard everything talk about a vocal minority ! Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
cybercoma Posted November 8, 2006 Report Posted November 8, 2006 You still din't answer the question.. If you were really in touch with whats actualy happening in parliament, the conservatives are teetering closer to non confidence everyday.. And I'm not liberal I'm NDP, the party who is going to finish you guys off.. Do you even watch parliament?? The NDP were responsible for overturning the liberals.. I could give a rats ass what happens to either of you.. But it is sad how a vocal miniority can perpetuate the illusion of superiority.. Very typical of th macho conservative cowboy attitude wich frequents this page.. you guys where cow boy hats and ride around on horses.. Did the NDP become the majority of voters when I wasn't looking? Quote
JAh-man Posted November 8, 2006 Report Posted November 8, 2006 You still din't answer the question.. If you were really in touch with whats actualy happening in parliament, the conservatives are teetering closer to non confidence everyday.. And I'm not liberal I'm NDP, the party who is going to finish you guys off.. Do you even watch parliament?? The NDP were responsible for overturning the liberals.. I could give a rats ass what happens to either of you.. But it is sad how a vocal miniority can perpetuate the illusion of superiority.. Very typical of th macho conservative cowboy attitude wich frequents this page.. you guys where cow boy hats and ride around on horses.. ROTFLMAO now I've heard everything talk about a vocal minority ! What haven't you ever been talked back too before lets here some fightin words!! Quote
Argus Posted November 8, 2006 Report Posted November 8, 2006 I'm glad that Harper isn't signing on to this, it gives us a good reason to overthrow him using non confidence which is going to happen in the next few months.. So you think Harper should sign on to Kyoto and promise to meet the goals Canada has set? Please tell us how he is to do that. I just know you wouldn't be arguing in favour of a treaty without knowing anything about it. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted November 8, 2006 Report Posted November 8, 2006 Well you are a miniority.. During a recent poll, where Canadians were asked who would make the best Prime Minister of Canada, Stephen Harper was chosen by a wide margin over all the potential Liberal leaders, as well as Jack Layton. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted November 8, 2006 Report Posted November 8, 2006 You still din't answer the question.. If you were really in touch with whats actualy happening in parliament, the conservatives are teetering closer to non confidence everyday.. And I'm not liberal I'm NDP, the party who is going to finish you guys off.. Do you even watch parliament?? The NDP were responsible for overturning the liberals.. I could give a rats ass what happens to either of you.. But it is sad how a vocal miniority can perpetuate the illusion of superiority.. It's laughable that you don't get how ironic you are being. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
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