Rae's Record Says It All

Ricki Bobbi · October 20, 2006

Here is the link.

Best quote from the piece:

The bad news for Bob is that the closer he gets to the Grit ring, the more his creepy critics are going to dredge up all that nasty stuff about how he almost drowned Ontario in a sea of red ink during his four years as NDP premier

Canadians aren't willing to accept huge deficits anymore. Bob is going to have to prove he gets that.

Shakeyhands · October 20, 2006

I for one am very much looking forward to him doing exactly that. Can't wait to see the Harper Rae debate too!

M.Dancer · October 20, 2006

I for one am very much looking forward to him doing exactly that. Can't wait to see the Harper Rae debate too!

"Harper Rae"...sounds like the respected southern novelist who wrote "To Cook a Mockingbird"

watching&waiting · October 20, 2006

I wish I could say I look back fondly at those days, but because of the very huge contempt I still hold for them, I can not ever forgive them. Since in elections it is usually the older voters who do most of the voting, it will be those who remember Rae for what he did, that will get to take him to task for the damage that was all due to him from years gone by. By the time an election would be called Rae will have had all this and much more dragged up and then even the younger voters who do not remember his damage, will at least be made very aware of what a vote for him can do. As I said before Rae is the one leadership hopeful that will allow the CPC to break into the sat rich area in and around Toronto. Just with that area alone there would be more then enough to give the CPC a majority government.

I would equate this to trying to have Chretien run for the leadership again in the next decade. It just seems to be stupid, but I being against the liberal, would enjoy it to happen.

Biblio Bibuli · October 21, 2006

Here is the link.
Best quote from the piece:

The bad news for Bob is that the closer he gets to the Grit ring, the more his creepy critics are going to dredge up all that nasty stuff about how he almost drowned Ontario in a sea of red ink during his four years as NDP premier

Here's a good link too:

http://torontosun.com/News/Canada/2006/10/...077885-sun.html

Best quote from the piece:

Personally, I think the only contender with the potential to be an effective prime minister is Michael Ignatieff,

jbg · October 22, 2006

Here is the link.
Best quote from the piece:

The bad news for Bob is that the closer he gets to the Grit ring, the more his creepy critics are going to dredge up all that nasty stuff about how he almost drowned Ontario in a sea of red ink during his four years as NDP premier

Canadians aren't willing to accept huge deficits anymore. Bob is going to have to prove he gets that.

The CPC's Rae of sunshine?

fellowtraveller · October 22, 2006

You guys are - typically- overestimating the bad image of Rae. It really is an Ontario thing. You also forget the nature of the vote in Ontario, and especially in the GTA. Do you really think any of the large immigrant groups give a shit about Raes past, or that many of this young population know or care? Not likely. Many of them think the actual spelling of 'Liberal' is 'LIBERAL X', because that is what any ballot looks like to them. They'd vote for Rae in droves.

Do you really think significant numbers of the Liberal heartland are going to actually vote anything but Liberal? Not likely.

And nobody else cares about his past , outside Ontario. It's a provincial thing.

Of all the candidates, Rae would be the toughest for Harper to face, mainly because Rae is the best politician.

Ricki Bobbi · October 22, 2006

Of all the candidates, Rae would be the toughest for Harper to face, mainly because Rae is the best politician.

You are right on that one.

but here's the deal. Rae is the only one who has a chance of stopping a Conservative majority in the spring.

Iggy, Kennedy, Dion. All chewed up and spit out by the Conservative machine.

At least Kennedy is young and will be around to fight another election in 2010.

Rae might hold the Conseratives to a minority.

Doesn't gain ground in the west or the maritimes. Maybe makes some inroads in Quebec. In Ontario. things pretty much stay as they are. Cities lean NDP, vote for Rae. Rural areas. No fond memories of Rae days...

Shakeyhands · October 22, 2006

I think you'll be surprised at how Rae gets people behind him, my guess is either a Liberal minority Gov't or even a small Majority.... The man has the Schwartz.......

betsy · October 22, 2006

Rae is an NDP masquerading as a Liberal.

daniel · October 23, 2006

If Rae is going to repeat his record as Ontario Premier, two things have to happen first:

1) the Conservatives will have to screw up the economy again - and that's dependant upon how much Harper wants to George-Bush the surplus;

and

2) have a caucus full of inexperienced members - which is unlikely since most Liberals already have governing experience.

watching&waiting · October 23, 2006

First of all it is always the Liberals who hide the surplus or spend it unwisely, we have seen all that for the 13 years they were in power. CPC used the surplus to pay down the debt. You call that being bad?

Yes the Liberals have governing experience, and it is exactly that experience that gave us the Sponsorship scandel. HRC billion dollar boon dogoole, and the list goes on and on. You just do not get it. We the Canadian people do nto want any of that type of experience in our government period.

That is why it does not matter to me who the liberal leader is, I really do not think that any of them will ever win an election. Also since it was mentioned about young voters not remembering Rae Days, I must point out that the young voters are not a very large numbers, the vast majority of voters are old enough to remember Rae and how he tried to kill Ont. But even if we have to show them the proof once again, I am sure if they investigate Rae he will be dead in the water with the young as well. Toronto especially was hard hit by Rae and the people and the public workers will never give him a second chance, no matter what dsiguise he runs under. Hell I am surprised no one assasinanted him.

daniel · October 23, 2006

First of all it is always the Liberals who hide the surplus or spend it unwisely, we have seen all that for the 13 years they were in power. CPC used the surplus to pay down the debt. You call that being bad?

As you know, Alberta is currently rolling in dough but aparantly they don't know how to spend it either. There's a homeless problem there and telling them to get a job isn't going to help.

In Ontario, the Conservatives had to sell capital to balance the budget.

As for that myth right wingers are fiscally responsible? I certainly don't want this country to be George-Bushed.

Yes the Liberals have governing experience, and it is exactly that experience that gave us the Sponsorship scandel. HRC billion dollar boon dogoole, and the list goes on and on. You just do not get it. We the Canadian people do nto want any of that type of experience in our government period.

As well, the current government is taking its experience from the Ontario Common Sense Revolution an experience I certainly don't want Canada to be cursed with.

...to remember Rae and how he tried to kill Ont....Toronto especially was hard hit by Rae and the people and the public workers will never give him a second chance, no matter what dsiguise he runs under.

You must have confused the Ontario Premiers. That was Harris. Rae built the 407, saved DeHavilland and Algoma, introduced early childhood education, introduced equal pay for work of equal value (BBM's pet project), restricted export of garbage, and turned the Ontario recession to a boom greater than any region of the G8...

Harris gave away control of the 407, cut education and health care funding, cancelled equal pay, set back the garbage initiative by eight years, screwed up the amalgamation of Toronto (with downloads and restrictions on taxing powers), and took credit for the economic growth that started when Rae was Premier. And don't get me started about water and death.

Hell I am surprised no one assasinanted him.

Spoken like a true right-winger.

Well, I've lived through both the Bob Rae government and the Conservatives and I tell you I would not want the curse of the CSR over all of Canada.

jbg · October 23, 2006

Toronto especially was hard hit by Rae and the people and the public workers will never give him a second chance, no matter what dsiguise he runs under. Hell I am surprised no one assasinanted him.

Rae Days weren't Raes of Sunshine?

daniel · October 23, 2006

Rae Days weren't Raes of Sunshine?

So weren't the Harris Layoffs nor the 60hrs/week he wanted the rest of us to work.

jbg · October 23, 2006

Rae Days weren't Raes of Sunshine?

So weren't the Harris Layoffs nor the 60hrs/week he wanted the rest of us to work.

At least there was common sense.

Biblio Bibuli · October 25, 2006

You guys are - typically- overestimating the bad image of Rae. It really is an Ontario thing.

Well, here on the left coast most people have a great image of Ralph Klein (I heard somewhere that Gordon Campbell has a 3 by 2 meter painting of the man hanging in his study).

So my prediction is that by the time Ralph is finished with Bob he'll be in the dumps here in B.C..

http://www.edmontonsun.com/News/Alberta/20...124264-sun.html